[Haiiro99]

Originally Posted by SouLJahz

Hey guys,

Just wondering if any of you know where u can get a rear seat cowl and how much they'd be? Preferably in sydney but i could have em interstate posted if they cant be found here

http://www.amcmotorcycles.com.au/en-gb/dept_67.html

[The Sook]

Ask for Trev, but I'm the only one here. Red cowl for 954 right? Anyway, On the Hume Highway at Lansvale, nearest cross street is Longfield. Which way you coming from?

[omen137]

Sook, aren't you the "birdman" on the mcnews forum?

[SouLJahz]

Originally Posted by The Sook

Ask for Trev, but I'm the only one here. Red cowl for 954 right? Anyway, On the Hume Highway at Lansvale, nearest cross street is Longfield. Which way you coming from?

Yeah cowl for the 954 and maybe the M3 damper depending on funds of course

Coming from the East from campsie. Should be able to find it, I kinda know where lansvale is on the hume. I'll seeya tomoro mate

[The Sook]

Yep, that's me, and Birdman from the ceracing.com site.
But don't hold that against me. hahahaha
From Campsie, just folow the Hume and about 1km past the Macano set, we're on the right. See ya then

[FuTAnT]

Originally Posted by SouLJahz

Nah its a 954 im after a red cowl, also after a damper as my first mod.
PC3 and pipe will be goin on in a mth or so when i get the funds since i just bought the 954

Where did u get 1000rr from? *confuzeled*

Dude, get some suspension mods before you blow all your cash on non performing ****. Suspension mods will take off seconds, all those mods will just make you feel as if you've got a bigger dick, but you'll still be goin slow.

[SouLJahz]

I dont seem to be having any issues with suspension atm, and im getting the damper so that i can push it harder without the fear of gettin slapped. I'm just a pre cautious kinda guy.

[aussie_929]

Yeah do what Futant said!


Oh and by the way I am selling a 929/954 WP shock for $900

[FuTAnT]

Originally Posted by SouLJahz

I dont seem to be having any issues with suspension atm, and im getting the damper so that i can push it harder without the fear of gettin slapped. I'm just a pre cautious kinda guy.

Inogrance is bliss.

It's a case of you just not experiencing what can be had for less than the price of a new steering damper. I paid $630 and it was the best performance bang for buck I could ask for. I don't make money of this reccomendation, I'm just trying to seriously sway your attitude so that you can have a much better ride.

By all means, buy a steering damper after you get some suspension mods, IF you feel you need it.

It's your choice. Would you like a pain killer (steering damper) or perhaps you could fix the root of the problem (suspension mods) once and for all, then never suffer a headache (headshake) again.

Ok. JUST ****EN DO IT!!

[SouLJahz]

I said DO IT! JUST DO IT!
(Sorry just reminded me of starsky and hutch)

I get your drift mate and i appreciate your concern. However i dont feel that something like a new shock would prevent a full blown tank slapper. I've had the odd headshake now and then when powering out from a corner so i just back off, bein the careful minded person i am. With the damper id be more confident to just give it without the worry in the back of my mind that i could slap side to side, like if i hit a crack in the road or something.

I'm sure somewhere down the line new springs, valves and a rear shock would be in the picture. but im not gonna be takin it to the track anytime soon. I mainly ride it on the road and i like to be prepared for anything to may come about. Heard of too many stories from mates which makes me extra cautious when i think about gunning it hard.

I'm sure u may not see it from the same perspective as i, but hey.. ur probably right!

[ratter]

Originally Posted by SouLJahz

I said DO IT! JUST DO IT!
(Sorry just reminded me of starsky and hutch)

. I've had the odd headshake now and then when powering out from a corner so i just back off, bein the careful minded person i am. :

Backing off in a tank slap can be one of the worse things you can do.

[RPinOZ]

Originally Posted by FuTAnT

Inogrance is bliss.

It's a case of you just not experiencing what can be had for less than the price of a new steering damper. I paid $630 and it was the best performance bang for buck I could ask for.

What did you get for your $630 FuTanT?

I've put on a Scotts which cost me $450 to my door via the FS forum and took 15 minutes to fit.
The improvement is much more than simply preventing head shake or tankslappers.
The feeling of stability through mid corner bumps is very like that on the CBR1000RR.

But I'd be the first to acknowledge that the suspension doesn't feel as good as the current model.
My mechanic set up the dampings front and rear and recommends playing with fork oil weight and oil level/air gap before fitting replacement valves and/or springs. His adjustments seem to have improved things a fair bit but I haven't been out for a serious fang since. Just commuting.

[FuTAnT]

Originally Posted by RPinOZ

What did you get for your $630 FuTanT?

I've put on a Scotts which cost me $450 to my door via the FS forum and took 15 minutes to fit.
The improvement is much more than simply preventing head shake or tankslappers.
The feeling of stability through mid corner bumps is very like that on the CBR1000RR.

But I'd be the first to acknowledge that the suspension doesn't feel as good as the current model.
My mechanic set up the dampings front and rear and recommends playing with fork oil weight and oil level/air gap before fitting replacement valves and/or springs. His adjustments seem to have improved things a fair bit but I haven't been out for a serious fang since. Just commuting.

New front springs, 0.85kg i think. The damping rates were also changed via the shim stacks etc. The stock valves were retained as they are up to standard.

In the rear, the spring was ok, so just changing the damping rates and a 4mm spacer was added. The stock shock just isn't up to scratch and needs some serious attention in general. I'd reccomend going Ohlins or the like for a "real" shock.

[SouLJahz]

Ok got the M3 damper from Sook today. Thanks for the hospitality Trev, ur a top bloke for fixing my other issue as well. I'll recommend ya to all my friends and i'll come back when i need anything else for sure!

Must say that my penis hasnt grown any larger from the damper, however i could swear my balls have grown at least 2mm's

Bike feels really smooth in the corner and after giving it a bit i couldnt feel any headshakes while riding on the highway to work. Have yet to test it on a maq pass run.

[RPinOZ]

Originally Posted by SouLJahz

Must say that my penis hasnt grown any larger from the damper, however i could swear my balls have grown at least 2mm's

So, new cutaway seat next then?

[SouLJahz]

It will be on my to do list!

[The Sook]

My pleasure dude. Glad you like it. Futant, who did your suspension? While true that the suspension makes a big difference to the bikes handling, it will NOT stop you getting tank slappers. If it did, then race bikes wouldn't use them now would they? Haha.
Enjoy the Matris damper SoulJahz. Cheers.

[FuTAnT]

Originally Posted by The Sook

My pleasure dude. Glad you like it. Futant, who did your suspension? While true that the suspension makes a big difference to the bikes handling, it will NOT stop you getting tank slappers. If it did, then race bikes wouldn't use them now would they? Haha.
Enjoy the Matris damper SoulJahz. Cheers.

Frank Pons did my suspension. Yes, it's true, they don't stop you getting slappers completely, but I have never had a ball shattering moment since I had the work done. It's made the bike much more stable and confidence inspiring to ride. Putting a damper on now would make it even better, me knowing I would never get a slapper at all.

Basically it has stopped 95% of the tank slappers that I would get, and if I do get one, it's a small controlled wobble, not some out of control kick in the nuts that scares the **** out of you.

[ratter]

Originally Posted by SouLJahz

Must say that my penis hasnt grown any larger from the damper, however i could swear my balls have grown at least 2mm's

.

TMI

[aussie_929]

Originally Posted by FuTAnT

Frank Pons did my suspension. Yes, it's true, they don't stop you getting slappers completely, but I have never had a ball shattering moment since I had the work done. It's made the bike much more stable and confidence inspiring to ride. Putting a damper on now would make it even better, me knowing I would never get a slapper at all.

Basically it has stopped 95% of the tank slappers that I would get, and if I do get one, it's a small controlled wobble, not some out of control kick in the nuts that scares the **** out of you.

I've heard a few bad things about Frank Pons.....

[Zeeman]

Originally Posted by aussie_929

I've heard a few bad things about Frank Pons.....

I've heard a few bad things about every suspension guy out there, whether it be Frank, Terry, SOS... thing is, I have heard way more good things about all of them :dunno:

Z...

[FuTAnT]

Originally Posted by Zeeman

I've heard a few bad things about every suspension guy out there, whether it be Frank, Terry, SOS... thing is, I have heard way more good things about all of them :dunno:

Z...

Yup, what Z said. The reality is that suspension isn't a simple thing to do. It's not like a pipe and a map, where you make a good purchase, plug it in, it sounds good get it mapped and your sorted.

It has a lot to do with who does it for you, how they set it up etc. Also has alot to do with how bloody honest you are in what you ask for when you get there. "Yeah, I want it to handle awesome for the track, and I only weigh 60kg" ... then they actually weigh 85kg and do mainly sport riding with the occasional track day. Well .. then of course it's gonna be ****ed isn't it!

One big thing with all the suspension tuners is that they do quite plainly offer for you to come back if they didn't get it right. I knew it was pretty sweet when I first sat on it and the front and rear of the bike sank equally .. beautifull. By the first corner I was creamin my pants ... much much better.

It all depends on who you talk to really. Some people have bad experiences with them, but most come away happy. One thing that is for sure is that if you go to Terry Hay you have no option but to get Racetech gold valves front and rear, and I dare say he'd even push them on you if you went in with a full Ohlins SBK set up!

[The Sook]

Yeah, but one other thing you can count on with Terry is that when you go there wanting gold valves and springs, that's what you get. I've seen with my own eyes, an R6 fork set up that was done by Frank, and the guy wasn't happy with it. When Terry pulled them apart, Frank had put R1 valves in it, coz hey, they'd be better (NOT) and the shim stacks on each fork, while adding up to the ame heights etc, each corresponding shim was a different thickness. The guy that rode our SP1 last year (pictured in my avatar) used Frank until the Qld round. That is where we lost the title. Frank was there and after Roly told him the bike was all over the place, and was sideways going in and out of the corners, Frank said that he looked the cleanest out there, and that's the best it would be. Huh? I wouldn't take my wheel barrow to Frank Pons to get done. While he tells you that he was Mladins crew chief, I know for a fact that he did nothing but get coffee and assemble parts. Mladin even takes his motox bikes to Terry to get done out here. Why would he do that if Frank was his crew chief in g.p? Bahahahahaha. We used Rick Pobjoy for the last round, and he pulled the bike apart, fixed the crap that Frank had done to it, and when we got it back, we didn't have to adjust anything for set up etc. It was spot on from the go.

[Zeeman]

Terry did a great job with my girl's 600F4i. It's way soft and low for me, but for her 47kg frame, it's perfect though it is way fun to ride for us bigger guys - suspension may be soft, but because it is so low, it just flicks like nothing else. Everyone that rides it smiles

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