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12-15-2004, 8:12 AM
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 Join Date: 04-05-2002 Location: Sydney, Aus
Bike(s): Black/Red 954, 136.3hp bone stock Age: 34 Posts: 3,523
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| Taxing bikes off the roads? Taken from OCAU/MC... "Link Actual article in... Australian Financial Review 1st Dec 2004 - Pg 62 Allan Mitchell amitchell@mail.fairfax.com.au And AFR Editor-in-Chief/Publisher Michael Gill mgill@mail.fairfax.com.au EDITOR Glenn Burge gburge@mail.fairfax.com.au These email addresses are public domain, so I'm sure they would be delighted to hear the MC community's comments." Typical statement I expect from a bean counter at the financial review. Of course, what the do gooders do not realise, is that we actually WANT to ride bikes. I don't do it for cheap transport. I don't wanta Korean car. I can already afford it. They also neglect to mention that the proportion of new rididers getting into accidents has significantly been reduced since the introduction of rider training. If they are that keen to cut the road toll to 0 - how about banning ALL motorised forms of transport from the roads. Not to mention pushbikes. And hey, people trip and fell and hit their heads. Let's ban walking too... Z... Last edited by Zeeman : 12-16-2004 at 7:04 AM. | |
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12-15-2004, 8:22 AM
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     Join Date: 02-10-2002 Location: Hoosierland, USA
Bike(s): CBR929 - VFR800 - VFR800 Posts: 11,098
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| Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? First your guns....now your bikes. Sounds like a great idea to me....they are both dangerous devices that have no place in civilized society... 
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12-15-2004, 9:15 AM
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| long-time addict  Join Date: 06-28-2004 Location: UK
Bike(s): VFR800, BSA Lightning Posts: 2,070
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12-15-2004, 9:26 AM
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 Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: US
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 5 Posts: 16,528
Rep: (1277) Rep Power: 35
| Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? Quote:
That stinks Zee. I hope your motorcyclist community speaks up and shuts those jokers down. Some of the rules and regulations that these jokers come up with just baffles me. Makes you wonder if they ever left their basement as a kid, or if they do so even now. | |
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12-15-2004, 9:28 AM
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| Close encounter of the wool kind  Join Date: 07-13-2004 Location: Huntsville AL
Bike(s): '04 CBR1000RR, '84 Ascot, '02 RC51 Posts: 13,839
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 | Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? It's for as*****s like those that we insist on keeping our guns  Good luck on stopping these idiots.
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12-15-2004, 10:25 AM
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 Join Date: 05-10-2003 Location: Simpsonville, SC
Bike(s): 06 Triumph Sprint ST, Husky SM610,& Gas Gas EC 300 Age: 59 Posts: 871
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| Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? Just like our Govt., They never cut spending ,just keep increasing taxes. |
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12-15-2004, 10:55 AM
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| Join Date: 07-14-2003 Location: Huntsville, Al
Bike(s): saeco team replica w/record; bianchi reparto corsa Posts: 113
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 | Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? woah now, they better not ban me from the streets! HA! sorry for that. I certainly wish our governments could find a way to cut some fat so they don't have to raise taxes so dang high. |
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12-16-2004, 7:04 AM
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| Join Date: 04-05-2002 Location: Sydney, Aus
Bike(s): Black/Red 954, 136.3hp bone stock Age: 34 Posts: 3,523
Rep: (155) Rep Power: 11
| Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? Quote:
Speaking of trimming some fat to stop raising tax, I happenned to drive past about 4 roadworks areas today, and am always amazed at the supervisor/worker ratio. there always seems to be about 10 people standing around with blank looks while one poor guy is breaking his back with a shovel... Z... | |
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12-17-2004, 10:08 PM
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 Join Date: 02-22-2004 Location: Melb, Aust
Bike(s): 2004 CBR1000RR RIP @->->-- Age: 32 Posts: 3,584
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 8
 | Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? Quote:
We have been paying the extra $50 levy for EVERY bikes (some are paying numerous times if they own more than one bike), 2006 there is a sunset clause which with any luck so end the levy. But VMAC sound like they think its a good thing (they get to play with the levy money though) so it might stick.  | |
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12-18-2004, 12:13 AM
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 Join Date: 04-01-2003 Location: Melbourne Australia
Bike(s): 954(sold) gone to the dark side, looking for an RC Posts: 883
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| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? I have it on good authority, my snout is never wrong, there about to ban tinted visors on motorcycle helmets. why? Safety of course, its somehow percieved that it effects our vision and can increase our chances of having an accident  ...not kidding either Oh but the good news is no front number plates in victoria, why? Cost to high to implement and would take far to long to get their money back via fines, ahhhh I'm so glad I live in victoria, my government is so concerned about my safety  |
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12-18-2004, 1:23 PM
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  Join Date: 08-01-2001 Location: Lost
Bike(s): Puch Posts: 14,391
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| Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? Quote:
Exactly, people don't understand it's a slow process of losing freedoms...today it's one you don't care about. But next, you never know. | |
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12-18-2004, 6:20 PM
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| Join Date: 04-05-2002 Location: Sydney, Aus
Bike(s): Black/Red 954, 136.3hp bone stock Age: 34 Posts: 3,523
Rep: (155) Rep Power: 11
| Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? Yet the patriot act is there... why did no one put up a huge stink about that? Z... |
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12-18-2004, 9:49 PM
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| Join Date: 02-22-2004 Location: Melb, Aust
Bike(s): 2004 CBR1000RR RIP @->->-- Age: 32 Posts: 3,584
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 8
| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? Quote:
Yer heard the same thing about FNP, they wouldn't recoup the revenue so it was ditched but apparently FNP on bikes has been raised federally now.  As far as I knoew Tinted visors have technically never been legal....none of them have the Australian Standards sticker because the tint/smoked effect effects visibility during night riding. But on a sunny day or even as the sun is setting they come into thier own, and as others have pointed out sun glasses under a clear visor can do alot of harm in an accident so I would expect not much to happen about this....status quo will remain......they aren't technically legal but no one enforces it because they are a must/benefit in certain situations. | |
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12-18-2004, 10:13 PM
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| Join Date: 04-05-2002 Location: Sydney, Aus
Bike(s): Black/Red 954, 136.3hp bone stock Age: 34 Posts: 3,523
Rep: (155) Rep Power: 11
| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? Quote:
 ferkraysakes, wish they would just leave it. I can't think of a single developed country where FNP's are a legal requirement, surely, there MUST be a reason for it..Z... | |
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12-18-2004, 10:50 PM
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| Join Date: 02-22-2004 Location: Melb, Aust
Bike(s): 2004 CBR1000RR RIP @->->-- Age: 32 Posts: 3,584
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 8
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12-19-2004, 1:04 AM
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| Join Date: 03-02-2004 Location: Melb/Vic/Aust
Bike(s): 98 Blade Silver on black RS-3 slip-on Age: 29 Posts: 1,174
Rep: (29) Rep Power: 6
| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? Well im currently embroiled in a "discussion" on the cbr250 forum with the kind of dickheads that are giving wind to the arguments to crack down on motorcyclists. With attitudes like theirs our lifestyle is doomed |
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12-19-2004, 3:49 AM
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| Join Date: 12-14-2004 Location: Melb, Victoria
Bike(s): Repsol CBR1000RR Posts: 26
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12-19-2004, 3:50 AM
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| Join Date: 03-02-2004 Location: Melb/Vic/Aust
Bike(s): 98 Blade Silver on black RS-3 slip-on Age: 29 Posts: 1,174
Rep: (29) Rep Power: 6
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12-19-2004, 4:08 AM
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| Join Date: 12-14-2004 Location: Melb, Victoria
Bike(s): Repsol CBR1000RR Posts: 26
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| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? Quote:
dont worry mate, Zop has shown us the way and brought us to the Dark Side. tho this place seems kinda quiet lately, must be the time of year with xmas and all, im just waiting for next Friday for a ride out when it happens  | |
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12-19-2004, 7:59 AM
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| Join Date: 03-02-2004 Location: Melb/Vic/Aust
Bike(s): 98 Blade Silver on black RS-3 slip-on Age: 29 Posts: 1,174
Rep: (29) Rep Power: 6
| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? Quote:
No stress here doode....just hate people who dont think of the consequences of their actions.... prolly quiet cause we're all out riding Tells ya what, I was having me a looksie at them there repsol bklades down at redwing the other day. MMmmmmmm mmmmm.....they have got three of the bastards in their!! I want!! I want!! | |
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12-20-2004, 8:01 AM
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| Join Date: 02-22-2004 Location: Melb, Aust
Bike(s): 2004 CBR1000RR RIP @->->-- Age: 32 Posts: 3,584
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 8
| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? Quote:
They used to have 5 out the back in crates. | |
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12-20-2004, 9:16 AM
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| Join Date: 04-05-2002 Location: Sydney, Aus
Bike(s): Black/Red 954, 136.3hp bone stock Age: 34 Posts: 3,523
Rep: (155) Rep Power: 11
| Re: Taxing bikes off the roads? Cowboy - I feel your pain re that thread... Z... |
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12-20-2004, 12:36 PM
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| Join Date: 08-01-2001 Location: Lost
Bike(s): Puch Posts: 14,391
Rep: (1211) Rep Power: 34
| Re: Taxing bike soff the roads? Quote:
The Patriot Act is definately terrible. But I don't think opposition to it has been exactly quiet. It is being challenged legally in many respects, and I look forward to the possibility that there might be other politicians, not in favor of banning even more freedoms, like Kerry, that I can vote for in the future to get the bastards who voted in favor of this legislation out of office. That law was passed 45 days after 9-11. The pansies in Congress were too afraid of looking weak on terror to even debate the damned bill. I think on this site you'll see lots of people say, "why should I worry about these laws, I'm not a criminal" Or, "I'm not a biker, so why should I care?" ACLU is Challenging CA Prop 69 (the DNA bank) So more and more of these laws get passed. Last edited by luvtolean : 12-20-2004 at 12:43 PM. | |
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