And I thought taxes in the USA was bad!

Hammer · 05-12-2006, 8:28 PM

EatnAsphalt · 05-12-2006, 11:43 PM

jetbdude · 05-12-2006, 11:54 PM

Funny only cause it's true

Custom900 · 05-13-2006, 12:32 AM

That is great. I had to watch about 10 times just for entertainment sake.

I would say that Canada has been paying attention to the US in the tax dept. There's nothing like the IRS.

phobiaphobe · 05-13-2006, 1:15 AM

Funny, but pisses me off because this same Liberal comedian likes to trash the Conservatives for cutting social spending.

seamus · 05-13-2006, 1:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Custom900

That is great. I had to watch about 10 times just for entertainment sake.

I would say that Canada has been paying attention to the US in the tax dept. There's nothing like the IRS.

What are you talking about? Most countries pay 40-50% income tax then pay ~15% VAT for every purchase. We have it easy.

Custom900 · 05-13-2006, 3:07 AM

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Originally Posted by seamus

We have it easy.

Compared to some, but the taxes still hurt at times. I know you gotta have em so that everything runs, but.....

NinerPilot · 05-13-2006, 3:37 AM

But they have that b*tchin national healthcare coverage....

navydevildoc · 05-13-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by seamus

What are you talking about? Most countries pay 40-50% income tax then pay ~15% VAT for every purchase. We have it easy.

Not THAT much easier... I have 46% of my pay witheld, and then pay 7.75% tax on everything here in San Diego.

luvtolean · 05-14-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NinerPilot

But they have that b*tchin national healthcare coverage....

Did you know, the US government spends more money, averaged per person for the whole country, on the people it covers with medicare/medicaid, than Canada or Britain does per person to insure every citizen?

Yep, that's right, every tax paying American throws more into the healthcare pot every year than a Canadian or Brit...and most high tax payers, then get to pay for insurance on top of that.

America has the best healthcare you can buy in the world...

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Not THAT much easier... I have 46% of my pay witheld, and then pay 7.75% tax on everything here in San Diego.

Yeah...I wasn't laughing even a little.

phobiaphobe · 05-15-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Did you know, the US government spends more money, averaged per person for the whole country, on the people it covers with medicare/medicaid, than Canada or Britain does per person to insure every citizen?

Yep, that's right, every tax paying American throws more into the healthcare pot every year than a Canadian or Brit...and most high tax payers, then get to pay for insurance on top of that.

America has the best healthcare you can buy in the world...

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Neither system works. We don't pay for insurance but knee replacement surgeries come with a 2+ year waiting list.

I think the ideal system is a hybrid of public and private, where everyone has access to health care but the system is not immune to supply and demand. Pretty tough to get the combination right... France actually makes it work pretty well.

schnogg · 05-15-2006, 10:33 AM

Damn. They have 60% tax in the Netherlands.

Taxes are never bad unless you aren't prepared for them. It's just an expense line item.

luvtolean · 05-15-2006, 2:47 PM

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Neither system works. We don't pay for insurance but knee replacement surgeries come with a 2+ year waiting list.

I think the ideal system is a hybrid of public and private, where everyone has access to health care but the system is not immune to supply and demand. Pretty tough to get the combination right... France actually makes it work pretty well.

Yeah, my point wasn't that your system is better. It was that Americans already spend more money on government healthcare per person than Canada or Britain despite not covering most of the population. Brits of course, despite far far less money in the system, just became famous for being more healthy than Americans...

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Originally Posted by schnogg

Taxes are never bad unless you aren't prepared for them. It's just an expense line item.

Actually, taxes are awful, planned for or not, if you believe in the efficiency of free market economies.

esoteric · 05-15-2006, 3:00 PM

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Brits of course, despite far far less money in the system, just became famous for being more healthy than Americans...

Yes, but we have more teeth, per-capita, than them.

BDA116 · 05-15-2006, 3:28 PM

Remember that every American already has free health care. All you have to do is walk into an ER and you get all the care you need.
Of course, that is abusing the system and part of the problem with high insurance rates, but the fact is that not one single American is lacking health care if they need it.

luvtolean · 05-15-2006, 3:31 PM

Yes.

But I found it quite compelling if we mirrored the policy of say Britain, we might actually spend less dollars per person on healthcare if we just offered the same system to all. They don't seem to suffer healthwise from it.

BDA116 · 05-15-2006, 3:35 PM

Bah, just let good ol' Darwin take care of things.

phobiaphobe · 05-15-2006, 4:05 PM

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Actually, taxes are awful, planned for or not, if you believe in the efficiency of free market economies.**

**Except for oil companies.

You forgot the asterisk.

luvtolean · 05-15-2006, 4:07 PM

I'm not arguing for more taxation on oil companies.

And oil isn't a free market anyways. It is highly government subsidized.

phobiaphobe · 05-15-2006, 4:09 PM

I think the gov. is more subsidized by the oil companies than the oil companies are subsidized gy government. At least that's how it is where I live.