Radar Detector

o'town929 · 08-06-2003, 12:39 AM

On your bike? Do you like it? Does it work? Any tips or tricks to install?

2OHOH2 · 08-06-2003, 1:07 AM

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o'town929 : On your bike? Do you like it? Does it work? Any tips or tricks to install? *

Yes. Yes. Yes. Lots of places/ways to mount one, take your pick.

Trackho · 08-06-2003, 1:19 AM

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o'town929 : On your bike? Do you like it? Does it work? Any tips or tricks to install? *

ont ride on the street w/o it---Got the HARD system, ESCORT 8500--I just velcroed the bracket to the inside of the windscreen (finally)---works awesome---if you can find some of that helmetcam 200MPH velcro---its incredible

VTRoneG · 08-06-2003, 1:23 PM

I am thinking getting a radar myself, thinking of cordless ones (Solo S2 maybe) for convenience although it's not as good as the non cordless ones.
As far as for installation, my friend is very satisfied with StemStand, check www.stemstand.com.
He installed his Valentine1 on it on his 03 gixxer 1K, the radar mount is very solid piece and sturdy.
Riding on mountain, I just stayed behind him since he got the radar.

deez · 08-06-2003, 1:43 PM

I use a V1 with the H.A.R.D. system.

o'town929 · 08-06-2003, 4:51 PM

Will order a V1 today....got a 67 in a 45 donation slip. What is the H.A.R.D. system?? Thanks to all!!

deez · 08-06-2003, 4:53 PM

Legal Speeding

Email Aaron, and tell him that Booth sent you

BizJetGuy · 08-06-2003, 4:54 PM

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o'town929 : Will order a V1 today....got a 67 in a 45 donation slip. *What is the H.A.R.D. system?? Thanks to all!!

H.A.R.D. System

edit: damn booth, you're quick on the draw!

Skully · 08-06-2003, 4:58 PM

How do you tell what type of radar signal you are getting with the HARD system, or can you?

deez · 08-06-2003, 5:00 PM

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Skully : How do you tell what type of radar signal you are getting with the HARD system, or can you?

The pulse flash. The LED is kind of in sync with the V1. If it's a strong signal, you'll know it, it flashes strong. Hard to explain you just have to use for a while.

2OHOH2 · 08-06-2003, 5:01 PM

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o'town929 : Will order a V1 today....got a 67 in a 45 donation slip. *What is the H.A.R.D. system?? Thanks to all!!

I recommend that you also get the remote display amd the remote audio adapter; although I haven't used HARD, it seems to me that relying on that single LED will make some of the best V1 features (type, direction, bogey counter) pointless.

Also, even though I'm a die-hard V1 fan, people have had good luck with the 8500, benefitting from its compact size, and built-in earphone jack.

Skully · 08-06-2003, 5:09 PM

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2OHOH2954 : I recommend that you also get the remote display amd the remote audio adapter; although I haven't used HARD, it seems to me that relying on that single LED will make some of the best V1 features (type, direction, bogey counter) pointless.

I think it will get you to look at the detector to get the other info. What we need is a HUD.

2OHOH2 · 08-06-2003, 5:22 PM

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Skully : Quote (2OHOH2954 @ Aug. 06 2003, 4:01pm)I recommend that you also get the remote display amd the remote audio adapter; although I haven't used HARD, it seems to me that relying on that single LED will make some of the best V1 features (type, direction, bogey counter) pointless.

I think it will get you to look at the detector to get the other info. *What we need is a HUD. *
Yeah, I think so too, but a flashing LED is no match for the audio output from the V1. Yes, it would require either a cord or cordless audio (hmm, HARD II?), but the audio has almost all the useful info in it. I've tried both ways, and have found that visual cues take far longer to process (especially hunting for, acquiring, and interpreting the V1's display) than the audio signal. Not only do you lose reaction time, you also have to take your eyes off the road, which at the presumed higher speeds, is obviously dangerous.

Skully · 08-06-2003, 5:25 PM

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2OHOH2954 : Yeah, I think so too, but a flashing LED is no match for the audio output from the V1. Yes, it would require either a cord or cordless audio (hmm, HARD II?), but the audio has almost all the useful info in it. I've tried both ways, and have found that visual cues take far longer to process (especially hunting for, acquiring, and interpreting the V1's display) than the audio signal. Not only do you lose reaction time, you also have to take your eyes off the road, which at the presumed higher speeds, is obviously dangerous.

You could go with the screamer.

Skully · 08-06-2003, 5:31 PM

My goal is to get a V1 with the stem stand mount and integrated radar screamer. *The problem is I'd have to dump the Scotts and get a damper that frees up the steering stem hole.

Motorcycleradar.com

deez · 08-06-2003, 5:36 PM

2H0 different strokes I guess. The HARD system works excellent for me and I'm very used to the V1. If I got a slow pulsing light from the LED and look around and see if a gas station is close and what not. If the LED comes on very strong and very quick pulses I know to slow the bike down immediately, actually at any indication I go ahead and kill the throttle momentarily. In the twisties, if the HARD flashes, I slow down, because I know 90% of the time it's a LEO.

My V1 is setup on a Saeng stand attached to the fairing stay on the 51, I don't even have to look down in most cases, I can see it easily, just roll my eyes. And I like to use earplugs when riding, don't want to be deaf when I'm on old man so the audio alert is not an option for me. I think the HARD system works awesome, not 1 ticket since I bought it.

2OHOH2 · 08-06-2003, 5:40 PM

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Skully : Quote (2OHOH2954 @ Aug. 06 2003, 4:22pm)Yeah, I think so too, but a flashing LED is no match for the audio output from the V1. Yes, it would require either a cord or cordless audio (hmm, HARD II?), but the audio has almost all the useful info in it. I've tried both ways, and have found that visual cues take far longer to process (especially hunting for, acquiring, and interpreting the V1's display) than the audio signal. Not only do you lose reaction time, you also have to take your eyes off the road, which at the presumed higher speeds, is obviously dangerous.

You could go with the screamer.
Tried it (then had it stolen). Wouldn't buy it again unless they fixed some of its shortcomings.

The good:
- no extra cords to hook up to (ie earphones)
- fairly small
- works up to speeds of about 75mph (Arai helmet)

The bad:
- it still requires the remote audio adapter ($45?)
- it's not loud enough above 75mph
- for whatever reason, it wasn't very water resistant, and when left out in the rain, it wouldn't work

The ugly:
- everyone around you in city traffic can hear it all too well; yes, it has a switch, but it got old real quick flipping that thing
- it's a dumb siren, which means that all audio coming out of it is the same, that is, no difference between the bands, bogeys, etc

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Right now, when I ride, I have to make two connections: one to power from the bike (V1 telephone jack), and one to the headphone jack sticking out of my tank bag (which Y's the V1 with the iPod). The earphone cord is long enough that I can pump gas, and access the trunk without having to unplug it; even so, it takes two seconds each time, which is just a small part of the gear-up ritual for every ride.

Holeshot · 08-06-2003, 5:53 PM

Yes, and it saved my keister more times that I could have paid for!!!

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EatnAsphalt · 08-07-2003, 10:21 AM

V1 on brake res. bracket, remote display and HARD LED. *Have used the audio adapter in the past tied into a helmet communicator but prefer the wireless LED. *You loose the different audio signals for each band, etc but I didn't like the helmet tether. *Wireless is much easier. *Hop on/off the bike without having to mess with any cords is worth it. *With the remote display you don't loose any of V1's features (direction, etc). *Audio adapter doesn't give you the direction anyway so you still need to be able to see the display.

Saved me dozens of times over the last 6 years (V1 not on the bike except for 2 years). *Upgraded it to the lastest V1 last year too. *Worth every penny.

Red Rider · 08-07-2003, 11:43 AM

I've used my V1 on both my 929 and VFR800. *It's saved me from countless tickets, including laser. *On the 929 I used the suction cup mount but removed the cups and mounted it directly to the inside of my ZG Double Bubble with two bolts and rubber bumpers. *I have it hardwired to my bike and connected it through the remote audio adapter and Chatterbox mounted inside the trunk. *Using the Chatterbox, the audio level is high enough at any speed, even with earplugs. *I had the H.A.R.D. system and sold it...didn't like having to take my eyes off the road to read the signal. *I much prefer determining type of radar/laser and signal strength by sound.

Hot setup...works great! *

Denny · 08-07-2003, 1:25 PM

I use a Passport SR1. It's a remote unit hidden in front of the radiator with a speaker in my helmet. Totally stealth and I don't have to take it w/ me when I park the bike. All the cops in the city have Lidar so if it goes off it's too late. You might get lucky and get an early warning. I just watch my speed in the city. Where its best is outside the city where they are still using a lot of radar.

Red Rider · 08-07-2003, 1:49 PM

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Denny : I use a Passport SR1. It's a remote unit hidden in front of the radiator with a speaker in my helmet. Totally stealth and I don't have to take it w/ me when I park the bike. All the cops in the city have Lidar so if it goes off it's too late. You might get lucky and get an early warning. I just watch my speed in the city. Where its best is outside the city where they are still using a lot of radar.

Is that a cordless unit?

Baketech · 08-07-2003, 2:12 PM

My detector is an outdated POS....but it still works, and has saved my bacon on a few occasions.

Disclaimer:
Not because I was speeding, but I may have let my speed drift going downhill. Nice to have a reminder in these situations....

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Trackho · 08-07-2003, 2:34 PM

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Red Rider : . *On the 929 I used the suction cup mount but removed the cups and mounted it directly to the inside of my ZG Double Bubble with two bolts and rubber bumpers. *I have it hardwired to my bike *I had the H.A.R.D. system and sold it...didn't like having to take my eyes off the road to read the signal. *I much prefer determining type of radar/laser and signal strength by sound.

Hot setup...works great! *

If you dont wnat to dril holes--I found the super-dupre velcro works fine in leiu of the suction cups as well.

The HARD system doesnt distinguish form K to Ka (Band)--X is programmed out on mine---but in reality doesnt make much diff--as in the twsities (all Ka) -- its a could signal--in town go get some bogus K--but not usually speeding in town anyway

Cant figure out--the 'looking down' comment--the HARD exists for eaxctly this reason--perosnally, I love being untethered from the bike via the audio--MP3 player is now velcroed to helemt

Denny · 08-07-2003, 2:43 PM

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Red Rider : Quote (Denny @ Aug. 07 2003, 1:25pm)I use a Passport SR1. It's a remote unit hidden in front of the radiator with a speaker in my helmet. Totally stealth and I don't have to take it w/ me when I park the bike. All the cops in the city have Lidar so if it goes off it's too late. You might get lucky and get an early warning. I just watch my speed in the city. Where its best is outside the city where they are still using a lot of radar.

Is that a cordless unit?
No. not cordless. It's remote. the main unit is weather resistant and mounts somewhere near the front of the bike/car. There is a small display you can hide but mine's under the seat and I just use the audio alerts wired to my helmet from the handlebar. I think there's an advantage to the hidden unit cuz if you get stopped and he's sees your detector=>automatic ticket. Passport now makes the SRX which includes laser 'shifting'. When it detects Laser it fires LED's that confuse the LIDAR gun while it alerts you. This is the one to have now, IMO. Unfortunately it costs about $1000 at a discount. It would take a lot of citations to pay for that.

ConqSoft · 08-07-2003, 2:52 PM

Yeah, those are nice, but if I ever got a radar detector I'd want to be able to move it back and forth between bike and truck easily.

Red Rider · 08-07-2003, 3:07 PM

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Trackho : Cant figure out--the 'looking down' comment--the HARD exists for eaxctly this reason--perosnally, I love being untethered from the bike via the audio--MP3 player is now velcroed to helemt

With the HARD I found that I still had to look at the V1 to determine the type of alert since K, Ka, and Laser are all used around here (and even X in some remote 'burbs). The audio lets me distinguish type and distance to source (and pending threat level). I'm also used to listening to the alerts when I have the V1 installed in my car...mostly has become a habit to listen more than look at the unit. Plus, I don't mind being tethered to the bike by a coiled cord as I can listen to music, or use the communicator as needed.