yet another stator thread 929

tlstreak · 07-18-2009, 4:10 PM

Already ordered an RMstator.

Ive been diging into threads and found some good some bad and refrenced multiple msg boards. I was even tempted to try and rewind my own, and still might for a spare.

Since there wasnt alot of options and at least I got a warranty with the RM (big decsion maker)

I cant find the common fault at why the RM seems crap here and many others have had less issues from other areas.

Anyone here not have an issue with a rmstator, and is it just an issue with the 929 setup. Im going to check the ground block I read about while im waiting. This just reminds me of another (all too common) issue with other bikes that seemed to burn out Rectifiers or sparkplugs, when it was a shorted wire elsewhere causing the issue.

Any feedback welcome. Im hopefull to have better luck with RM than what ive read here. Seems others have had it by upgrading for just higher output, instead of failure replacement which leads me to beleave there might be another reason for common failure.

PROJECT929 · 07-22-2009, 7:26 AM

is the charging system just not charging your battery or does the bike not run? It could probably be rewound if it's just charging issues but if the ignition part is messed up then it should be replaced.
Call Power Performance Perfection at 760-473-1751 and ask for Jerry, I can see about getting it rewound for you if you would like, theres also another company called electrix that might make one for it. I can check if you want.

tlstreak · 07-22-2009, 8:00 AM

As far as I know its just the stator.

I had to lay the bike down earlier in the year, and I think thats where my issue started. Of course it hit stator first. I also have a feeling the previous owner may have had a race cover, so the stator may have been removed and installed a few times.

I wouldnt mind checking into getting the one I have rewound JIC though.
If you could send me some pricing on a rewind.

MACI4LIFE · 07-22-2009, 8:47 AM

i had 2 rm stator crap out on me within 50km's of running. nuff said. one thing i don't understand ( cause i don't know enough about electronics ) is why they use a y winding on the stators when honda uses a delta winding on theirs. Would you not want to replicate the stock part as close as possible?

tlstreak · 07-22-2009, 10:05 AM

Thats why im thinking of getting the OEM rewound. While the RM has a warranty, which is the only reason I went for it over others. I would like to have a back up JIC that way I can send one off and continue to ride with the other.

tlstreak · 07-23-2009, 10:52 PM

I should have dug deeper prior to ordering. RM stator failed before I even turned over the bike. Installed and tested...........FAIL , and now I cant even get the damn customer service to answer the phone or return an email.

Maybe tomorrow, and so on. I guess the game begins on getting a working model or my money back. After getting the failed unit out of the box, money back at this point would be better.

PROJECT929 · 07-24-2009, 2:48 AM

Why not just get an oem one, is the expense not worth having a running bike with no issues? I know a guy that had a similar issue to your except in addition to the aftermarket stator he also replaced the battery and the regulator before he brought it to our shop and ended up buying an oem stator anyway.

tlstreak · 07-24-2009, 9:20 AM

I thought about it. I also thought about buying 2 aftermarkets and having a spare. OEM is like gold and they are trying to close national debt problems with it. However I will probably order one now.

tlstreak · 08-08-2009, 6:05 PM

Just an update
sent the stator back to RMstator.com
no contact, no new parts, cant get them on the phone.
Been 2 weeks since filling out the warranty sheet and mailing it back.

Email the VP of sales complaining. Which was the only person I could get to answer 3 weeks ago when they sent me a bad stator to begin with.

Filed a paypal complaint today for faulty product.

MACI4LIFE · 08-08-2009, 6:33 PM

good luck. i found it funny how they kept on insisting that they've sold so many of these 929 stators with no problems yet here we all are as a group with the exact same problems occuring within a very short period of time right after the install.

tlstreak · 08-08-2009, 7:58 PM

thats why im using the name and website. That way if someone would start searching like I did, they might get a few more hits and see something new.

I found fewer bad hits than I did good. But noone came back to update the few that I read. So I took the chance and its burned me.

I ordered a new stator from cycletheropy.com called and spoke to the guy, and he seemed alot more down to earth than the big "we ship a couple thousand a year to so in so" Their return policy is pretty cut and dry. If you have an issue they will replace it and pay all shipping costs. If you decide its not the right part for you later send it back and they will refund -a small restocking fee which they are up front about. Most important is they answer the damn telephone when you call.

Not send it back but fill out this form, fax it wait for us to call with a number, ship it , wait forever not knowing anything, call several times and never get a phone answered regardless if it mid week, Saturday morning or what time it is, but our website is open 24/7.

Andrew1400 · 08-15-2009, 9:41 PM

My stator crapped out on a road trip last week and was stranded out of town. Had a good experience with RM Stator from sales to delivery. That being said the stator has only been in the bike for 4 days.. but 1600kms and a dyno run later it's still kicking out. I would have preferred a OEM stator but there were none in the country and could not order one till the 20th (not sure why). Noticed a lot more windings on the aftermarket version than the OEM version though and it reads 14.5volts at idle. Not ready to recommend this product as I just got it but thought I would post my experience with them to date.

Andrew

tlstreak · 08-15-2009, 11:07 PM

Actually im going to have to retract a few of my statements.

I tested the new stator from RM incorrectly on the bench.
However when customer service called me back they were apparantly not so helpful and told me to send it back. SO I ended up sending the stator back and getting it shipped again to me....guess what, on my dollar. But I have a second stator JIC now.

I still never got a single answer on the telephone unless they called me. Which took emails to get attention. Once I was pissed and probably pissed them off, customer service was fine.

However on the flip side.
New & Used Motorcycle Parts, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki CycleTherapy.Com
These guys were great. You call you get an answer. The stator was the closest thing to OEM ive seen aftermarket so far. It actually was a little smaller than OEM to tell the truth, just so slightly. It was completly plug and play.

fido · 08-20-2009, 9:16 AM

What is causing the stator failures? Open, short or ground?
Just interested I am about to get a 929 back on the road.

tlstreak · 08-20-2009, 9:09 PM

I laid my bike down back in Feburary. So I have to assume the hard hit on the stator cover was at fault. I dont see any other reason for the failure, and my bike pulls less off the battery electronically than a stock 929.

I cant speak for anyone else but thats my opinion is a low speed impact caused mine to get damaged and after 6 months finally burnt through another wire.

fido · 08-20-2009, 11:23 PM

If the cause was a wire burnt causing an open circuit the wire may have vibrated in that spot till the insulation broke down causing it to short and eventually burn off. May not ahve anything to do with laying it down.

Did it look like it was shorted to another wire or ground?

My edumacated guess is the high RPM/vibrations is causing the insulation to rub together eventually causing a short beteween windings or possibly to ground.
Im wondering if vacume epoxying the windings would mediate the problem, just a thought.

Rode my 929 for the first time today, not far just a test. Still need a RH foot peg. To bad old man winter is so close.

Stephen