954 front end and other parts fs plus f4i

954racer · 11-23-2008, 3:51 PM

Well I was going to give him a couple more days but maybe I won't now. I tried sending an email to him based on his paypal info but it came back as being an invalid email address.

nkrosser · 11-23-2008, 4:16 PM

look at my posts i have parts too....03 954 parts check that thread

Trimmed_Jennis · 11-23-2008, 7:30 PM

what a piece of ****... who's up for a road trip to

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20176 which is Leesburg, Virgina

Trimmed_Jennis · 11-23-2008, 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nkrosser

look at my posts i have parts too....03 954 parts check that thread

which would be great if douche bag hadn't stole my money. what a tool box

954racer · 11-23-2008, 7:35 PM

yeah, I started the claim through paypal tonight. At least I will get my money back but it still sux, since I passed up on a tank on ebay for the one I paid him for.

Trimmed_Jennis · 11-23-2008, 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 954racer

yeah, I started the claim through paypal tonight. At least I will get my money back but it still sux, since I passed up on a tank on ebay for the one I paid him for.

yeah, i'm not in dire need of a fairing.. but still it's not like $100 doesn't hurt the ol' pocket book.

954racer · 11-23-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Trimmed_Jennis

yeah, i'm not in dire need of a fairing.. but still it's not like $100 doesn't hurt the ol' pocket book.

yeah, I know. My tank is still functional, it's just dented from my crash. Riding season is done here anyway so I wasn't too worried about how long it took to get here as long as it was actually coming

Trimmed_Jennis · 11-25-2008, 11:03 AM

how's everyone's claims going? any luck on them yet?

954racer · 11-29-2008, 12:15 AM

nothing here yet

Trimmed_Jennis · 11-29-2008, 12:03 PM

nothing here until Tuesday... i hope that Paypal pulls through for me... i could use an estra $100 to buy something from a different member on this forum

Trimmed_Jennis · 12-02-2008, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by paypal

Dear ***********,

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

what a peice of F'in ****.... can Fireblades ban his IP address to make sure he never gets on here agian.

954racer · 12-02-2008, 1:21 PM

I was afraid of that. I haven't heard anything back on mine yet but I was reading up on their site and saw that it wasn't a guarantee that I'd get a refund. Pretty lame in my opinion they should be able to refund us then go after him for it.

bettingpython · 12-02-2008, 1:28 PM

Here is his internet provider based upon the IP he was posting from.

71.176.165.134

OrgName: Verizon Internet Services Inc.
OrgID: VRIS
Address: 1880 Campus Commons
DrCity: Reston
State Prov: VA
PostalCode: 20191
Country:
USNetRange: 71.173.96.0 - 71.180.255.255
CIDR: 71.173.96.0/19, 71.173.128.0/17, 71.174.0.0/15, 71.176.0.0/14, 71.180.0.0/16
NetName: VIS-BLOCK
NetHandle: NET-71-173-96-0-1
Parent: NET-71-0-0-0-0NetType: Direct AllocationNameServer: NS1.BELLATLANTIC.NETNameServer:
NS2.BELLATLANTIC.NETNameServer:
NS2.VERIZON.NETNameServer:
NS4.VERIZON.NETComment:
RegDate: 2005-06-01
Updated: 2008-10-06
OrgAbuseHandle: VISAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:
VIS Abuse OrgAbusePhone: +1-214-513-6711
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@verizon.net
OrgTechHandle: ZV20-ARIN
OrgTechName: Verizon Internet Services
OrgTechPhone: 800-243-6994
OrgTechEmail: IPNMC@gnilink.net
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-12-01 19:10# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

I would suggest contacting Verizon, about this and report this to federal authorities since this involves interstate commerce and telecommunications fraud. If they know something is coming doen the pike they may keep logs of the mac adresses of the machines using that gateway adress a little longer than normal but you'll have to move fast.

Blocking that IP prevents anyone in that area of the country that is a member of fireblades from getting to the .org that's just the public IP of the ISP that he was posting from his machine IP would be behind that and is private non public adressable IP in all likely hood, hopefully he did this from home and not from a college campus etc... otherwise odds are slim of catching him.

Twincam · 12-02-2008, 7:10 PM

Is that his address or the address of the Verizon Company?

bettingpython · 12-03-2008, 8:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Twincam

Is that his address or the address of the Verizon Company?

That will be Verizon's adress. That IP can be anywhere in the world, it's just a publicly adressable IP registered to verizon.

With any luck he used his home internet connection that's easy to follow, Most DHCP systems reassign the same IP to your home router every time it renews the lease, if you have VoIP telephone service then your router IP remains fixed. My IP adress at home remains fixed because I pay extra since I want my mainframe available to me via the internet.

It could also be leased to a university or cofffee house/internet cafe, in which case things get more difficult but not impossible. Every packet contains the mac address of the machine it was sent from.

954racer · 12-13-2008, 1:01 AM

Well, it's official. I got the same response from PayPal as the others I have seen..... Seriously unimpressed

Just got an email last night from PayPal asking me to complete a survey about their claims process....bet they won't like reading that one

partyhardryan16 · 12-13-2008, 1:14 AM

yea thats bullcrap. i didnt realize that they wouldn't refund you if the seller didn't have applicable funds in his account. doesn't that take away from their whole protection promise? no guy committing fraud is going to leave a dime in his paypal account. i am going to call and make a complaint on all of your behalves, and I will make sure to talk to a manager and let them know how their system is seeming to be a complete failer. I've given them thousands upon thousands of dollars, and this is rediculous. I'll let you guys know what they say.

gixxer4915 · 12-13-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by partyhardryan16

yea thats bullcrap. i didnt realize that they wouldn't refund you if the seller didn't have applicable funds in his account. doesn't that take away from their whole protection promise? no guy committing fraud is going to leave a dime in his paypal account. i am going to call and make a complaint on all of your behalves, and I will make sure to talk to a manager and let them know how their system is seeming to be a complete failer. I've given them thousands upon thousands of dollars, and this is rediculous. I'll let you guys know what they say.

Paypal is a joke. I was under the same inpression. That they would pay you the money owed, and take action on the other person. What's the point in paypal if there not liable for your lost?

Trimmed_Jennis · 12-13-2008, 2:35 PM

yeah, they guarantee the funds if it's an Ebay auction... not if it's any other transaction. cause Ebay own's paypal, that's why.

I called and told them VERY early on that we were getting had by a scammer and they said, "well, we have to go through our process by law" ok, that's fine, i just got $100 stolen from me douches.

954racer · 12-13-2008, 3:47 PM

At this point it isn't really even about the lost funds or paying for something I never received. I want to know why it is that PayPal wont reimburse us. Whoever this guy is would have to have gone through the same process as the rest of us to open his PayPal account right? That means that they would have had to communicate with him and verify all of his information. How is it possible then, that they now cannot get in touch with him or go after him for the money. They should have way more contact info on him than any of us do.

Red Rider · 12-13-2008, 4:14 PM

Did you use a credit card or direct transfer through PayPal? If you used a cc, contact them and dispute the charge.

954racer · 12-13-2008, 4:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Rider

Did you use a credit card or direct transfer through PayPal? If you used a cc, contact them and dispute the charge.

Unfortunately, I used direct transfer. I won't be making that mistake again if I ever use PayPal's services again. After this experience though, this may be the last transaction they see from me.

kylenv · 12-13-2008, 5:35 PM

not to stir anything up but.... After a few posts and asking questions I could just tell he was a scammer and even posted my thoughts on this. He didn't even have a pay-pal account and would not list this on e-bay. Also he had just became a member of this and another forum and had no feedback and nobody new who he was??? why would someone buy parts from a person like this? just wondering. there are tons of people who sell parts and you can see that reflected in there feedback on pay-pal or e-bay and if they don't do that and there a new member F$$K buying from them....just my 2cents

lanbrown · 12-13-2008, 5:52 PM

On 11/03/2008 Joe joined and hasn't been back since 11/18/2008. Joe is not going to return, and as such, the hammer has struck.

954racer · 12-13-2008, 6:56 PM

yeah, I wasn't really expecting to see him back either. I think I am more bummed about having to start looking for a new tank and rear set than anything else. Being out the money sucks, but it isn't the end of the world

kylenv · 12-13-2008, 7:00 PM

yeah its really shitty cause alot of us sell and make sure people are happy cause we know what its like to be looking for a deal or maybe hard up and trying to help a person out. Its lame karma is a bitch and i'm sure he will get his....

Trimmed_Jennis · 12-14-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kylenv

not to stir anything up but.... After a few posts and asking questions I could just tell he was a scammer and even posted my thoughts on this. He didn't even have a pay-pal account and would not list this on e-bay. Also he had just became a member of this and another forum and had no feedback and nobody new who he was??? why would someone buy parts from a person like this? just wondering. there are tons of people who sell parts and you can see that reflected in there feedback on pay-pal or e-bay and if they don't do that and there a new member F$$K buying from them....just my 2cents

well to reply, i've never sold anything on Ebay. and mostly on my own local boards. So i didn't have feedback anywhere. I was new to the site with only a couple posts when i posted up that i had a corbin seat for sale. I'm not a scammer and I like to think i handled my transaction well, but i guess i'm still too naive.

and yes, it will be a hard thing to do paypal again, i agree.

lanbrown · 12-14-2008, 8:09 PM

How I handle online transactions on forums
If the seller recently became a member, view that they are there to take your money from you. If they joined that day or within the last month and one of the first things they are doing is trying to sell something, they are probably just trying to get your money. If they have been an active contributor and they have over 100 posts, then they are more likely to come through. If the posts were just “+1” and “bumps” then I would stay away.
When paying, even PayPal will not back your money unless you bought it off of eBay and the seller has been verified. If you use a Credit Card, the CC company may come back to you and say you must follow the PayPal rules. If you are in good standing with them and they want to keep your business, then they will reverse the charge and let PayPal take the hit. This means that if PayPal wants the money, they will need to get it from the seller; they now have a vested interest. The US Postal Service offers Money Orders. (USPS - Domestic Money Orders) See if the seller will take those. If they do, then you need to mail them the MO and now you have a physical address. You would have gotten that anyway as most shipping companies require one on the package. If they don’t deliver the good, then you contact the USPS and they will handle it. The person now has committed fraud and more importantly, mail fraud. Since you had to mail it, you have a legit address and USPS can track them that way; even a P.O. Box.

If they are posting the same items on multiple forums or using images from eBay, then stay away as well.

The short version, look at when they joined, how many posts they have done and what the posts entailed.

You can still get taken, but you can minimize it by using a little common sense.

nkrosser · 12-14-2008, 11:44 PM

your all dumb he was caught on stuntlife after like 1 post its all over there also some of u want the same parts i have and yet dont email me guess u dont need the parts anymore goodluck......

lanbrown · 12-15-2008, 1:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nkrosser

your all dumb he was caught on stuntlife after like 1 post its all over there also some of u want the same parts i have and yet dont email me guess u dont need the parts anymore goodluck......

1) Don't call other people dumb. If you do, then maybe we should look at your post first.

2) I didn't buy anything from him, how am I dumb?

3) I don't want a thing that you have; it might be contagious.