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Old 10-31-2012, 5:42 PM   #1
 
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Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

For my winter project I will be painting my 1998 Honda CBR 900rr. I need some instruction on how to properly tackle this project.

Currently all the fairings are off the bike and I'm ready to begin sanding each one. What sandpaper should I use? Should I take it down to bare plastic? What grit should I finish on before primer?

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Re: Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

You don't need to take it down to bare plastic, you need all of the surface gloss off and just get into that other layer of paint well enough so it's got that soft fine velvet feel to it. Instead of sand paper try to find a cloth with grit in it, kind of like the cloth that you can use to polish aircraft windshields with. I think it's called micro mesh? It with fit the contours better and make a better product in the end. Start with a 600, then move to 1200, then do like the 3200 and that should be pretty good. It'll be a long task but the more time you take, the better it will come out.
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Re: Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

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For my winter project I will be painting my 1998 Honda CBR 900rr. I need some instruction on how to properly tackle this project.

Currently all the fairings are off the bike and I'm ready to begin sanding each one. What sandpaper should I use? Should I take it down to bare plastic? What grit should I finish on before primer?

Thanks!

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Try using wire/steel wool instead of sandpaper.

How do you plan on painting it - with a can or a gun?
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Re: Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

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You don't need to take it down to bare plastic, you need all of the surface gloss off and just get into that other layer of paint well enough so it's got that soft fine velvet feel to it. Instead of sand paper try to find a cloth with grit in it, kind of like the cloth that you can use to polish aircraft windshields with. I think it's called micro mesh? It with fit the contours better and make a better product in the end. Start with a 600, then move to 1200, then do like the 3200 and that should be pretty good. It'll be a long task but the more time you take, the better it will come out.
You want him to go to 3200 before primer??

Sand to 600 then hit with primer. Get a flexible primer and try not to add too much paint or it will crack and craze. Two layers of primer should do it unless you're fixing damage.

Add paint, Two layers will be fine.

Fine sand, 1200 is enough.

Add clearcoat, Two layers again. Too much and it will not flex like it needs to on plastic.

Once it's had at least a couple warm days (lol) to dry, give it the finest possible sanding, use a rubbing compound for this rather than paper. Depending on how good you are at painting you may need to 1800 sand or higher if you can get it before polishing (rubbing). If you think this is going to be the case, add more clear to suit.

Painting isn't easy. You will **** it up several times.

Get some cheap broken panels for practise, it'll cost paint but save you so much time and frustration when you have to rub a panel back after a big run or a "dusty" coat.

Unless the panels are rough, they'll look much better with a few decals, the colour is too much on unbroken panels.
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Re: Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

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You want him to go to 3200 before primer??

Sand to 600 then hit with primer. Get a flexible primer and try not to add too much paint or it will crack and craze. Two layers of primer should do it unless you're fixing damage.

Add paint, Two layers will be fine.

Fine sand, 1200 is enough.

Add clearcoat, Two layers again. Too much and it will not flex like it needs to on plastic.

Once it's had at least a couple warm days (lol) to dry, give it the finest possible sanding, use a rubbing compound for this rather than paper. Depending on how good you are at painting you may need to 1800 sand or higher if you can get it before polishing (rubbing). If you think this is going to be the case, add more clear to suit.

Painting isn't easy. You will **** it up several times.

Get some cheap broken panels for practise, it'll cost paint but save you so much time and frustration when you have to rub a panel back after a big run or a "dusty" coat.

Unless the panels are rough, they'll look much better with a few decals, the colour is too much on unbroken panels.

agreed

before you jump straight into painting troll around youtube. there are some pretty good video's and how too's on there about painting.

if you are using a spray gun, you'll need to know how to adust it and what all you'll need to do it properly. i personally like to have an inline pressure gauge (mines set up on the spray gun). you'll probably want to know the diffrences between gravity and suction feed.

i love to airbrush, my father used to build models when i was a kid and he taught me how. kinda how i got my start into my current field of work. i don't paint professionally, i just like to do it for a hobby.
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Re: Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

Sorry about the refference to the 3200 cloth. I have some stuff at work that I am sure you would get it through an aviation line (not ideal) but it puts a nice smooth scuff in contoured areas. Deffinitely listen to these guys. I have only painted a steel tank for an XL250 and it came out fantastic. I probably spent alot of time doing some unnecessary work to get it totaly smooth.
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Re: Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

You really need to find a good step by step guide with pics or movie. You must be in a warm dust free garage.
I've only done small panels - just done a seat hump for the wifes new bike, was originally black so needed it Iron Nail Silver, rubbed down with 600 & 800 wet & dry emery paper to give the surface a key for the primer, it exposed a couple of strange patterns, then used 3 coats of grey primer, 10 mins drying time inbetween each; wish I had used a 'plastic primer' first as those 2 patches gave me trouble. Put a thin 'dry' coat of a dark old spray on the top to use as a rubbing guide.
Left it for 24 hours then used 1200 emery & warm water to rub and smooth down until the dark guide coat was rubbed off.
1 dry coat then 3 wet coats of the colour with 10 mins drying time in-between each coat. let dry then 2 coats of clearcoat.
24 hour dry then v. gentle rub with 1500 emery & warm water. Final 2 coats of clearcoat. Came up very nice.
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Re: Winter Project...Painting My 1998 Honda CBR 900rr - Need Help! Guide!

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You must be in a warm dust free garage.
Maybe one of the most important things. Wet the floor down and squeegee it out. Paint after the dampness starts fading away.
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