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04-03-2004, 9:56 AM
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Join Date: 03-22-2004 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| Frame Sliders I'm just wondering if anyone has done sliders on an 02 954. I'm trying to figure out if I need to drill my plastic or if they just happen to fit into that nice little triangle hole thats already there? |
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04-03-2004, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: 10-06-2001 Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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| Re: Frame Sliders No drilling required. Easiest ones to mount up.
Chris |
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04-03-2004, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: 07-02-2002 Location: TX
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| Re: Frame Sliders They fit. No drilling required. Slider
Last edited by Northy : 04-03-2004 at 10:10 AM.
Reason: Added Link to picture.
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04-03-2004, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: 03-22-2004 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| Re: Frame Sliders Cool. I'm going to go pick some up later today. Thanks. |
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04-03-2004, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: 08-15-2002 Location: South Australia
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| Re: Frame Sliders On the Intuitive sliders (maybe others as well?) one bolt is longer than the other - make CERTAIN that you mount the bolts correctly. According to others here, if they're mounted on the wrong sides you can damage the engine and cause an oil leak. The bolts are actually engine mounting bolts, so be sure to torque them properly also  |
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04-04-2004, 11:50 PM
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Join Date: 02-13-2004 Location: Lansvale Sydney Australia
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| Re: Frame Sliders I can get you anodised sliders if you wish. Blue, red, chrome. Same deal, no drilling, and they look pretty trick, especially if your bike is red, or blue, or even black, for the chrome ones. Let me know |
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04-04-2004, 11:53 PM
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Join Date: 03-27-2004 Location: Boston, MA
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bacchus On the Intuitive sliders (maybe others as well?) one bolt is longer than the other - make CERTAIN that you mount the bolts correctly. | Yup, I have generic sliders made by a machine shop that sells primarily on eBay and they too feature engine mount bolts of different lengths. Just compare the bolts to OEM ones, and match up the sides. Frame sliders have saved me serious $$ in repairs and they might cost $40. Very worth it.
Mine use allen head bolts to allow for more plastic around the bolt (as in they don't have to allow room for a socket). They're super hard and have survived beautifully. |
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04-05-2004, 12:06 AM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders I'm putting on frame sliders as well, but they came with 2 90mm bolts. I've heard from you guys that the bolts should be of different lengths (ie. one 80mm and the other 90mm).
1) Problem is that I'm not sure if one of the frame sliders has a built in spacer.
2) The thread pitch is a fine thread. Is this the right type of bolt?
Last edited by GhostRider : 04-05-2004 at 12:08 AM.
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04-05-2004, 12:06 AM
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Join Date: 10-06-2001 Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by The Sook I can get you anodised sliders if you wish. Blue, red, chrome. Same deal, no drilling, and they look pretty trick, especially if your bike is red, or blue, or even black, for the chrome ones. Let me know |
Not trying to cut your sales Sook, but I would reccomend against aluminum sliders. Having worked in a motorcycle shop for a while, I have seen more bikes come in that were totaled due to the aluminum slider than I have seen that were helped by them. The aluminum grabs and bends the frame. Me personally, I advise people to get good ol' derlin or other polymer type.
Chris |
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04-05-2004, 12:11 AM
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Join Date: 08-15-2002 Location: South Australia
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by GhostRider I'm putting on frame sliders as well, but they came with 2 90mm bolts. | Don't the instructions tell you on which side to mount the slider w/the "shoulder"?  Sorry, but it's been too long for me to remember on the Intuitives. |
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04-05-2004, 8:09 AM
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Join Date: 07-29-2003 Location: Central NJ
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by NinerPilot Not trying to cut your sales Sook, but I would reccomend against aluminum sliders. Having worked in a motorcycle shop for a while, I have seen more bikes come in that were totaled due to the aluminum slider than I have seen that were helped by them. The aluminum grabs and bends the frame. Me personally, I advise people to get good ol' derlin or other polymer type.
Chris |
BIG ditto on that  |
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04-05-2004, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bacchus Don't the instructions tell you on which side to mount the slider w/the "shoulder"?  Sorry, but it's been too long for me to remember on the Intuitives. | The instructions aren't that great, but I do know which side they go on. However, I'm not sure of the bolt length and thread pitch. It seems that one has a built in spacer to make the bolt an 80mm, but I'm not sure.
I was hoping that someone could tell based on the pics, just to reassure me. |
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04-05-2004, 10:17 AM
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Join Date: 02-14-2004 Location: Québec
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| Re: Frame Sliders one you take the bolts off the bike you will see where the logest goes.  |
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04-05-2004, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by l'timbré one you take the bolts off the bike you will see where the logest goes.  | The shorter bolt is supposed to go on the left side. Question is...is that bolt (with the spacer) actually shorter? Or will it cause some damage? |
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04-05-2004, 10:47 PM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders Anyone? |
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04-05-2004, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: 03-22-2004 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by NinerPilot The aluminum grabs and bends the frame. Me personally, I advise people to get good ol' derlin or other polymer type.
Chris | What about the carbon fiber ones with the aluminum caps? I guess these would have the same problem as the aluminums. |
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04-05-2004, 11:18 PM
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Join Date: 10-06-2001 Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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| Re: Frame Sliders Yeah, those are more for show than go... I tell ya, the best setup I have seen are the Vortex units with bases designed for each bike and universal replacable sliders. These look good and if you go down, all you have to do is replace the plastic slider piece, and not buy a new pair. If these sound acceptable to you, pm me... I might be able to help you out.
Chris |
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04-05-2004, 11:50 PM
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Join Date: 08-15-2002 Location: South Australia
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by Mangina What about the carbon fiber ones with the aluminum caps? I guess these would have the same problem as the aluminums. | Just get the Intuitive brand and be done w/it...  |
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04-06-2004, 9:48 AM
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Join Date: 07-29-2003 Location: Central NJ
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bacchus Just get the Intuitive brand and be done w/it...  | Yeap! |
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04-06-2004, 5:18 PM
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Join Date: 12-17-2003 Location: San Diego/CA/USA
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by CBRBob Yeap! | Short one on left side. |
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04-06-2004, 5:33 PM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders sigh...  |
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04-06-2004, 6:08 PM
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Join Date: 07-02-2002 Location: TX
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by GhostRider sigh...  | Yeap, One side should be shorter than the other. |
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04-06-2004, 6:58 PM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by Northy Yeap, One side should be shorter than the other. | I know, but I'm more concerned about the bolts. Looks like the left one has a built-in spacer which would make the bolt appear shorter even though they are both the same size.
Is that what you see as well? |
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04-06-2004, 7:25 PM
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Join Date: 07-02-2002 Location: TX
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| Re: Frame Sliders One bolt should be shorter. The shorter bolt actually goes on the side that is a little bit longer. The longer one is recessed further and allows the bolt to go in further. |
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04-06-2004, 9:19 PM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by Northy One bolt should be shorter. The shorter bolt actually goes on the side that is a little bit longer. The longer one is recessed further and allows the bolt to go in further. | Both bolts are the same size. But I think the left one has a spacer incorporated into it. Do you see it the same way I do?
See pics above and below. |
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04-06-2004, 10:29 PM
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Join Date: 03-02-2004 Location: Rockford, IL
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| Re: Frame Sliders I just (Saturday) put a pair of the carbon ones (yea I got them cause they looked good) one my 54 and the one with the built in spacer goes on the left side (as seen if you are sitting on the bike). When you take out the original bolt line it up with the frame slider (with it's bolt in it) and make sure the length is the same before putting in on just to be sure. |
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04-06-2004, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by BigDaddyJ When you take out the original bolt line it up with the frame slider (with it's bolt in it) and make sure the length is the same before putting in on just to be sure. | Yup, that's what I intend to do, and I'll also finger tighten it first just in case.
I thought I'd post the pics for some reassurance anyway.
Should I put blue Loctite on it? Probably I guess. |
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04-06-2004, 11:22 PM
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Join Date: 08-15-2002 Location: South Australia
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by GhostRider Should I put blue Loctite on it? Probably I guess. | I don't think Loctite is necessary, if the bolts are torqued to correct values. I didn't use it...  God, you are gonna make me remove mine yet, just to clear up the bolt length issue  . |
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04-06-2004, 11:43 PM
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Join Date: 04-17-2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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| Re: Frame Sliders Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bacchus | | |