[aBnorMal]

Just FYI on the PCIII. Prolonged absence of 12V supply to the PCIII will cause loss of map. Had mine disconnected for about a month and it (the map) is gone. I'm not sure exactly how long it takes for the PCIII to dump its memory. There is probably some variable involved with the condition of the cap that maintains the memory as well. Either way it is a good thing to check every now and then. Especially for you snowbirds up there that can't ride all year round.

[ratter]

First time I have heard of this, i thought once a map was loaded it was there to stay until changed by the programme

[HondaGalToo]

Yup, it'll do that sometimes. Not all units and not all the time. They are a bit buggy. It shouldn't happen, but it does. Reload the map, and all is well again. I always take the laptop and cables to the track. I've just purchased a Palm Tungsten and am in the process of seeing if I can get maps to upload using it, so I can take it on long trips with me, just in case.

[maxib]

HG2,

Please let us know how (or if) the Palm works for this application. Thanks.

[arndogg]

Originally Posted by aBnorMal

Just FYI on the PCIII. Prolonged absence of 12V supply to the PCIII will cause loss of map. Had mine disconnected for about a month and it (the map) is gone. I'm not sure exactly how long it takes for the PCIII to dump its memory. There is probably some variable involved with the condition of the cap that maintains the memory as well. Either way it is a good thing to check every now and then. Especially for you snowbirds up there that can't ride all year round.

Doed it just revert to a zero map when the data gets lost? How does one find out if the map was lost? I was overseas for quite sometime, and left the bike with my bro, who rode it occassionally.

[matt232]

If the Palm doesn't work then this might be a good option. It runs a full blown copy of windows but with the same form factor as a PDA.

http://www.gizmo.com.au/public/News/...articleid=2742

http://www.oqo.com/hardware/basics/

Edit:
Looks like the Palm shouldn't be too much of a hastle to work out
http://www.powercommander.com/palmsoftware.shtml
http://www.powercommander.com/maps/i...alm_Manual.pdf
http://www.powercommander.com/palmadaptor.shtml

In regards to the lost map, it shouldn't be lost.

[HondaGalToo]

I'll keep you posted about the Palm. I have a Clie, and even though it uses Palm OS, it won't work. Something with the type of cable it needs is different than the Palm.

[HondaGalToo]

Originally Posted by arndogg

Doed it just revert to a zero map when the data gets lost? How does one find out if the map was lost? I was overseas for quite sometime, and left the bike with my bro, who rode it occassionally.

No, it just has nothing in there. No zero map. You'll know, the bike won't run. When it happened to HG, the bike would start, but it was surging and pulling forward with the clutch in, and it wouldn't stay running.

[arndogg]

Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

No, it just has nothing in there. No zero map. You'll know, the bike won't run. When it happened to HG, the bike would start, but it was surging and pulling forward with the clutch in, and it wouldn't stay running.

Thanks!

[HondaGal]

Originally Posted by maxib

HG2,

Please let us know how (or if) the Palm works for this application. Thanks.

I'm planning on checking it out tonight, in fact. The Sony Clie would not work even though it was running the Palm OS. The brands are different and the power output from the ports are indeed different, thus the 'cannot find power commander' error that we were getting with the Sony.

Keep your fingers crossed that this works.

[Kookie]

I definitely want to hear your report HG, as I have been pondering the idea of using my Handspring Platinum, versus pulling the bike up beside the Study and running the cable thru the window opening. Any info is greatly appreciated.

[SuperDave]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the PCIII never actually displays the map # when 'Get All' is executed. It will display the Zero map title (104-000) since the instructions tell you to first load the Zero map, then use the 'Get All' to retrieve whatever map is loaded. It only shows the map # after a 'Load File' is initiated. It will however show the cell information. My problem seemed to have the correct cell information but I could tell that the 3500RPM surge and the twitchy off/on throttle was happening and I would just load the map again and everything cleared up. This happens usually after having the battery out for awhile (winter). I'm still confused on this whole thing.

[HondaGal]

SuperDave. I don't recall having to load a zero map to get the map loaded in the powercommander. I'll check it out and walk through the steps you mentioned to check my results. I don't recall having to go through so many steps.



Kookie, I don't know if your Handspring unit will work. The issue with the Sony models was the lower voltage at the port even though I was running a Palm OS. There wasn't enough power to communicate with the powercommander. There's a possibility you may have that same issue.....or not. You won't know if you don't try your specific unit as it's totally different from mine.

[SuperDave]

Yea, it states you must have some file loaded in the software, the instructions say to load the zero map (goes nowhere except in software on laptop/palm/PC), before a 'Get All' can take place. And it states the PCIII software will only show that original file loaded. In other words, you load the 104-000 file, then, Get All, and then you'll see the cell information change (for a 104-023 Mori map for example), but you'll still see 104-000 in the bottom left. It does not retrieve the map number along with the cell information. Once you upload a file, it will then replace the 104-000 at the bottom left with whatever map number you loaded.

[slowpoke]

Just buy a used Palm, I got a Palm111e for $35 (thanks Freq!) and it works great. I carry it in the trunk with the cable and dynojet adapter 'just in case'.

[CBRBob]

I spoke to the Dynojet tech a while back. They say the Palm series are the only ones the garantee to work. I use a Palm to load maps (comp is at opposite end of house from garage) and I take some maps to the track as well.
Bob

[HondaGal]

Originally Posted by SuperDave

Yea, it states you must have some file loaded in the software, the instructions say to load the zero map (goes nowhere except in software on laptop/palm/PC), before a 'Get All' can take place. And it states the PCIII software will only show that original file loaded. In other words, you load the 104-000 file, then, Get All, and then you'll see the cell information change (for a 104-023 Mori map for example), but you'll still see 104-000 in the bottom left. It does not retrieve the map number along with the cell information. Once you upload a file, it will then replace the 104-000 at the bottom left with whatever map number you loaded.

Ok, so I went outside to check this out. I brought up a map file on the laptop. Then, I used the Get File function and 'got' the file from the PC3. It showed all my #'s and the map name but the map name was in the middle section of the bottom bar. I'm using version 2.7.8.22 of the Power Commander Control Center.

[HondaGal]

Originally Posted by maxib

HG2,

Please let us know how (or if) the Palm works for this application. Thanks.

Ok, for the record, I used a Palm with OS5 and successfully loaded a map file into my PC3. Yay! The only thing I don't like about the software on the PDA is that you have no idea what map is loaded in the PC3 prior to sending a new one. Other than that, it tells you when it successfully loads a map.

So, it looks like you don't have to go looking for an old Palm if you already have a more current one. I used a synch cable that has a serial end and the Dynojet null modem. It worked perfectly by following the directions on the Dynojet site. No more lugging around the laptop.

[SuperDave]

Originally Posted by HondaGal

Ok, so I went outside to check this out. I brought up a map file on the laptop. Then, I used the Get File function and 'got' the file from the PC3. It showed all my #'s and the map name but the map name was in the middle section of the bottom bar. I'm using version 2.7.8.22 of the Power Commander Control Center.

Hmmm, I'll have to check my version. Here's the pdf file instructions on their website stating the first and only thing you can do is Load File. It states you must first load a file to Get Map. PowerCommander III Software features

I'll check the site for more specific instructions, and check my version.

[HondaGalToo]

You can't use the "get map" function with a Palm, you can only send maps from the Palm to the Powercommander. Unfortunately, you cannot pull the map from the PC back to the Palm.

[HondaGal]

Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

You can't use the "get map" function with a Palm, you can only send maps from the Palm to the Powercommander. Unfortunately, you cannot pull the map from the PC back to the Palm.

SuperDave was referring to the computer/laptop, not a Palm. Or did I miss something??

[SuperDave]

Originally Posted by HondaGal

SuperDave was referring to the computer/laptop, not a Palm. Or did I miss something??

Well we're really bastardizing this thread Sorry AbNorMal.

I may have included Palm in one of my general statements, I think she was clarifying some restrictions when using Palm.

I can't find that pdf anywhere. I will bring my manual in tomorrow. I'll bet Conq's paycheck you have to load a file first (be it 000 or anything) before it will retrieve what's currently loaded on your PC3, and it won't display the Map title unless an Upload happens, it will only display the map title you originally had to load in order to Get All (it may be version related, we'll see).

[HondaGalToo]

Originally Posted by HondaGal

SuperDave was referring to the computer/laptop, not a Palm. Or did I miss something??

I wasn't sure which he was referring to, so I just wanted to clarify...

[HondaGalToo]

Originally Posted by SuperDave

Hmmm, I'll have to check my version. Here's the pdf file instructions on their website stating the first and only thing you can do is Load File. It states you must first load a file to Get Map. PowerCommander III Software features

I'll check the site for more specific instructions, and check my version.

I think you do. If the laptop map display is all dashes, the option to "get map" isn't even available. You have to display a file on the laptop first, then you can do "get map" from the Powercommander. HG, isn't this what we've found?

[samsblade]

Am I correct in assuming that this will not work with the palm T3? I think the T3 and 500series have the same adaptors but the former is usb and the latter is serial - thanks

sam