[widebody]

what do you guys think of this it a small crack (hair line )
on the lower of the left side
can it be welded

[Tavish]

picture?

[fumbducker]

Originally Posted by widebody

what do you guys think of this it a small crack (hair line )
on the lower of the left side
can it be welded

Me thinks....ummm.....not good.



J

[cbr99xx]

Originally Posted by widebody

what do you guys think of this it a small crack (hair line )
on the lower of the left side
can it be welded

The lower case on my 929 was cracked badly enough to take a chunk out, luckily I still had the piece. I had someone attempt to weld the cases up for me but I didn't get the results I had hoped for. I still have a very small leak that almost appears to weep right through the case. I fear that in my situation pulling the engine and splitting the cases to allow closer inspection and better access for welding will be required. YMMV

By all means I would try to have it welded. Finding a machine shop that will do the work while the engine is still in the bike may be difficult but not impossible.

(Widebody you have mail)

[widebody]

yes worikng on getting pics
i got abike at a police auction started it up,, ran ...sounds.good
jump on it great deal 3000 for a 2001 few nick here a there nothing major
i though... i rode it the last few days all good
so i go power wash the bike wax it put it away and next thing i kknow
there are afew drops of oil on the ground i look at cover its good
but there is damage behind the cover i think theres a crack
maybe not
just wanted to know if i could just run a weld on it

[half]

widebody,
I have welded engine cases. I can't say for sure without pics, but I bet it can be fixed.

[cbr99xx]

I guess that I should add that when I had the welding done that I did a few things to prep the bike for the welder.

#1) NO GAS

#2) No oil

#3) drained water/anti-freeze & removed hoses around area to be welded

#4) Pulled left side case cover (Leave stator bolted to cover... disconnect stator wire under seat)

#5) Pull flywheel

#6) Use something to block potential slag from going into crankcase (I used a Hi-Temp fiberglass tacky cloth gasket material that I have access to at work)

#7) Clean area extremely well with solvent (I used carb cleaner), there should be no trace of oil left.

If the crack extends into crankcase or oil galleries cases will have to be split.

(I'm sure I forgot something but this is a good start )

[RPinOZ]

Originally Posted by cbr99xx

(I'm sure I forgot something but this is a good start )

Disconnect earth wire from battery?

[Jungleboy]

Originally Posted by RPinOZ

Disconnect earth wire from battery?

To prevent damage to the electrical system/ECU! Also make sure the earth (from the welder) is attached as close as possible to the area to be repaired as possible as it can also destroy bearings if the current passes through them and creates an arc! if you put the earth clamp right next to the crack it should be ok

[cbr99xx]

Originally Posted by RPinOZ

Disconnect earth wire from battery?

Yep... Knew I forgot something.

Also all of my plastic was removed. The welder laid the bike on its side in order to have better access to the bottom of the case.

[widebody]

well its more than a small crack i see they use two gaskets
but no weld here are some pics hope this works
but i felt that area notting leaking
....so if i pull that cover noting would pop out
i want to take a look inside just never done that before
what do i need to do
drain oil
and what else
i have no book on this bike so i working on it blind
any help would be great thanks

[Holeshot]

Yeesh.. sort of makes you wonder what happened to cause that. But at 3k.. even if you need a NEW motor I think you are still ahead of the game (depending on bodywork issues). Welding Japanese AL cases can be tricky from what my journeyman welding neighbor tells more (porosity of the casting makes things difficult from what he explained - plus as metioned possibly contamination issues).

At any rate.. good luck with it and enjoy the bike. Bummer on the leak though..

[cbr99xx]

Originally Posted by widebody

what do i need to do
drain oil
and what else
i have no book on this bike so i working on it blind
any help would be great thanks

Read the rest of this thread.

[widebody]

frame and sub fram are good
bike is in 1 pc heres a pic of it
just repair the front fender my self and a review
mirror which it needs
but the bike runs good

[Red Rider]

If that's the stator cover you can pull it off fairly easily. You have to give it a good tug to free the stator's magnetic grip. If it's got two gaskets on there it may be cracked more than it appears.

edit: just reread this thread. The oil drips you saw "may" only be from the foam padding on the inside of the fairing. Try wiping the area clean (stator cover) and look carefully to locate the source(s) of the drips.

[widebody]

thanks alot going to pull cover off but first going to buy a gasket
and a hi temp rtv ..how many quarts of oil do i need to get and which type

[Red Rider]

4 quarts is more than enough. Stop and keep checking the level after you've put in 3 quarts so you don't overfill it. 10w-40 is standard grade.

[Holeshot]

Yeah, I would have bought that for 3k and taken my chances... then.. I'm just that way. Hopefully you can fix it easily. You know.. JB weld might work too... JAT.

[RRWANTR]

If you're jus tpulling the cover you don't need to drain the oil.

[luvtolean]

Looks very weldable to me.

I've done JB weld on dirt bike (and my 929's stator cover too actually) cases before, but it always cracks in time.

[crazycuRRie]

Originally Posted by widebody

well its more than a small crack i see they use two gaskets
but no weld here are some pics hope this works
but i felt that area notting leaking
....so if i pull that cover noting would pop out
i want to take a look inside just never done that before
what do i need to do
drain oil
and what else
i have no book on this bike so i working on it blind
any help would be great thanks

Greatiest invention known to man

[widebody]

jb weld you guys think i should give that a shot
how long does it take to set ..where can i find it
haven't had a chance open the cover shop was close
so i don't need to drain the oil ..one question is there surpose to be oil in there

[luvtolean]

They make a quick set that is done in like 5 minutes. Make sure you clean it very well, a metal bristle brush with break cleaner works good.

JB weld is always a temporary fix. Like I said, it will probably work for a while, but the difference in expansion rates of all the materials in the area will eventually crack it.

[half]

I can't really tell from the pics, is the tab that the bolt threads into cracked? If so, you can have it welded and rethreaded. Whether you use JB or have it welded you can save yourself some time by cleaning it yourself. Use a stainless steel brush and citric acid. Both of these can be purchased at a welding supply store. If you need more info let me know.

[RRWANTR]

Originally Posted by widebody

so i don't need to drain the oil ..one question is there surpose to be oil in there

You will lose a small amount of oil when you take the cover off. Probably less if you have it straight up and down on the rear stand.

[luvtolean]

If you carefully put a board under the left side of your rearstand, no oil will come out when you take it off. Learned this doing trackside alternator cover rebuilding after a crash at Laguna.

[Red Rider]

Originally Posted by widebody

..one question is there surpose to be oil in there

Yes