[01CBR929RR]

friggin cops have nothing better to do.. especially state troopers... went out for a ride tonight, 4 bikes and 2 cages... we hit this stretch of road in my city that is almost like a high way, 3 lanes wide without any cars... so my buddy on the bike next to me drops it down and takes off... i gas it but then realize i was in the wrong gear and i was too lazy to downshift so it was pointless. 1 of the other bikes took off and 1 of the cars took off too.. the were atelast 100-200 yards away from me when i crossed over the bridge. the exit we needed to take was right after the bridge, so i slow down to take it and i look in the rearview and there is 2 state troopers with their lights on RIGHT on my ass... so i pull off to the side thinking they were gonna go past me... nope... they pull right behind me.. so i shut the bike of and take the helmet off, trooper gets out of his car and walks over. i asked why i was being pulled over. "license and registration please". i poped the trunk to get my info again askin for what i have done... he tells me i was speeding & racing the other bikes. i told him i want racing and then asked if he has me on radar. he said he did so i proceeded to ask if i could see it.. he says no. i then told him that it was my right to see if and that he just said no because he didnt have me on radar. he then threatens me saying that if i didnt shut my mouth he was going to arrest me for disorderly conduct. i told him i had done nothing wrong. by now there are 4 trooper cars surrounding my bike on this offramp. one of the other troopers chimed in saying that i was racing and he heard my bike. i said "really ? you heard my bike out of 3 other bikes and 2 muscle cars (and old mach 1 and a 01 GT both with exhaust and engine work). he didnt say anything after that. so after 20 minutes of me waiting for deputy dewey to write my ticket he finally gets out of the car, walks up to me and says "you better give your buddies a call because we just got a call over the radio that someone on a bike wiped out", i ask for more info but he didnt have any. so then he givs me a ticket for 57 in a 35 "radar estimated". so i said i thought he had me a 60 not 57. he says "ya want me to put ya at 60" i said no and then i said that it was just more proof that he was lyin bout the whole thing. none of my friends crashed though which was a good thing... the staties probably went after some poor kid who they thought were my friends... the kid ran, and crashed... who knows.. i just think that it is rediculous the things cops can do..i honestly have no idea how fast i was goin or what the posted speed limit was.. i do not think i was speedin and i was DEFINITELY NOT screwin around... sorry for the long post, im just so pissed right now... thinkin bout sellin the damn bike cuz you cant even own anything fast around here because cops look for stuff to give ya a ticket for... im currently a step 27 but i havent had a ticket in almost 3 years (november will be 3 years). once 3 years has passed it will drop to a 14 because of the clean slate bill... im worried that those 2 3/4 years of paranoia will all be wasted because of some gun-ho cop

[929_Nupe]

OUCH......

get you an ambulance chaser to get you off



PS we all know you were goin faster then 35

[G-Force Junkie]

How about obeying the laws and quit giving us all a bad name. You broke the law, you got popped, deal with it.

[NinerPilot]

I dont know about you're state laws, but here I dont have to show you my Radar/laser readout, and I refuse to show it to someone if a) it is my in car radar unit (no-one comes back to my car for my safety) and b) they act like an ass and "demand" to see it.
If I have someone ask if they can see it and I am using the handheld Laser Unit, Ill oblidge when I come back up to to the vehicle, but if someone shows me there ass and starts talking like a law school flunkie, they wont have that privledge and can come to court to dispute it.

Now, it obviously seems to me that the situation could have been handled better on both ends. First off, asking what you are being pulled over for before fullfilling the request of the officer isnt the best way to get things started. I have never heard of anyone getting pulled over and not being told why... It will come in good time. In TN, Troopers can pull people over for the sole fact of asking for a license. You have said that you would have taken off with your friends, yet you missed a gear, so your intentions were'nt quite angelic in nature. The tropper could have maybe been more tactful, I dont know I wasnt there. All Im getting at is it seemed you lost your cool with the officer form the get-go. Had you let the stop transpire, you may have gotten off easier. For reference, conversation that starts off with "What did you stop me for?", Ill end with "Press hard, 4 copies..."
Chris

[SomeStrangeGuy]

Selling the bike sounds like a wise idea.

[jaim]

Originally Posted by NinerPilot

I dont know about you're state laws, but here I dont have to show you my Radar/laser readout, and I refuse to show it to someone if a) it is my in car radar unit (no-one comes back to my car for my safety) and b) they act like an ass and "demand" to see it.
If I have someone ask if they can see it and I am using the handheld Laser Unit, Ill oblidge when I come back up to to the vehicle, but if someone shows me there ass and starts talking like a law school flunkie, they wont have that privledge and can come to court to dispute it.

I assume different states have different laws regarding pull overs based on speeding and what rights people have to see the evidence.

CBR929, seems you have a pretty good case. Get a lawyer and get that
ticket thrown out.

Originally Posted by NinerPilot

Now, it obviously seems to me that the situation could have been handled better on both ends. First off, asking what you are being pulled over for before fullfilling the request of the officer isnt the best way to get things started. I have never heard of anyone getting pulled over and not being told why... It will come in good time. In TN, Troopers can pull people over for the sole fact of asking for a license. You have said that you would have taken off with your friends, yet you missed a gear, so your intentions were'nt quite angelic in nature. The tropper could have maybe been more tactful, I dont know I wasnt there. All Im getting at is it seemed you lost your cool with the officer form the get-go. Had you let the stop transpire, you may have gotten off easier. For reference, conversation that starts off with "What did you stop me for?", Ill end with "Press hard, 4 copies..."
Chris

Every citizen, if stopped, has a right to know what they are being stopped for. Asking for said information should not be dependent on the mood of the officer. Traffic cops take too many liberties with their positions and should spend their time doing something more benefitial for the communities. Generating revenue by harassing motorcycle riders is a crappy way to protect and serve.

Don't sell your bike. Just find better places to ride.

[NinerPilot]

Originally Posted by jaim

Every citizen, if stopped, has a right to know what they are being stopped for. Asking for said information should not be dependent on the mood of the officer. Traffic cops take too many liberties with their positions and should spend their time doing something more benefitial for the communities. Generating revenue by harassing motorcycle riders is a crappy way to protect and serve.

Don't sell your bike. Just find better places to ride.

When was the last time you were pulled over and the officer not once told you why he stopped you? Whether it be when he approached you or after he had your info. THats what I was getting at. It makes no sense to ask all huffy and puffy, when the officer is going to tell you why you were stopped.

The rest Im not going to comment on, dont feel like the argument.

[lexus rx]

i had an incident in my cage one day that just took the cake. i was getting on the interstate headed towards work and as i was coming down the on ramp i spotted a county mounty already on the interstate heading the same direction as me. i got into traffic with him behind me and set my cruise control at 4 over the limit. he followed me for 10 miles and then bluelighted me. at that point i know im going to cuss his ass out. he comes up to my window and asks for the usual. i asked what i did. he said he clocked me at 11 over the limit. thats when i went off and told him to get his immediate supervisor down here. i told him that there was no way in hell and why would someone speed when they knew he was behind me from the time i got on the interstate. i wouldnt give him my license or registration until his superior pulled up. he said he would give me a ticket and take me to jail and i told him to go ahead and to make sure to bring his video tape that was in his car with him. while i waited on his boss i called my pre-paid legal number and told them what was happening (best $16 dollars a month i will ever spend). they told me to give the officer my card and to have them call if they took me to jail. needless to say when his boss got there they ended up letting me go. what else could they do? take me to jail and end up getting their ass sued? i ahte cops with a passion. ALL COPS. your nothing but a bunch of egotistical idiots that hide behind your badges. you think im stopping for ya on my bike. you got another thing coming. you run as fast as you want when you want and then expect the regular joe citizen to listen to you when your barking at me about speeding? ha. the only chance you have with me is a chopper. you can use your radio all you want but if you wanne run me then good luck. i hope your dept. is ready to pay for damages to your car when you wreck chasing me. been there done that. enough ranting. dude, good luck in court and the next time a pig tries to chase me ill give em the middle finger just for you.

[Diesel954]

You sir, are an idiot and job security for law enforcement. And no there is no law allowing you to see a radar units readout. Keep whining and pouting, it will make you feel better someday.
Go ahead and run on your bike. It will look nice on the back of a wrecker like the other bikes that ran from me.

[ConqSoft]

You broke the law. You got a ticket. Take your medicine.

I'm closing this before it gets even MORE out of hand.