Tiered Liscensing, what do you think??

Newfie TLR · 02-28-2005, 10:52 AM

I saw this on another board and thought it would be nice to get the opinions of the people here.

What do you think?? And why or why not??

ConqSoft · 02-28-2005, 10:54 AM

It was discussed a little here:
Will the day come?

Haywood · 02-28-2005, 10:57 AM

I've always thought it was a good idea. I would however propose that they establish a tier that's a little less restrictive than what some of the UK tiers are.

However, there had better dang well be a grandfather-clause for those of us with endorsements > 4 years already.

Newfie TLR · 02-28-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

It was discussed a little here:
Will the day come?

Holy Snappin' Forums, Batman, you could have waited until I finished the post!!!

How in Hell could you have possibly did that so quick??? I did a search on "Tiered Liscensing" and not one hit.

ConqSoft · 02-28-2005, 11:05 AM

I just searched for "tiered".

CBR Riding Fool · 02-28-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Newfie TLR

Holy Snappin' Forums, Batman, you could have waited until I finished the post!!!

How in Hell could you have possibly did that so quick??? I did a search on "Tiered Liscensing" and not one hit.

He is a living computer, think skynet.

Newfie TLR · 02-28-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CBR Riding Fool

He is a living computer, think skynet.

No **** Sherlock!!

The time stamp on my post was 11:52, and his reply was stamped 11: 54!

ConqSoft · 02-28-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Newfie TLR

No **** Sherlock!!

The time stamp on my post was 11:52, and his reply was stamped 11: 54!

That's two whole minutes.

Newfie TLR · 02-28-2005, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

That's two whole minutes.

That's an eternity in 'puter time, right??

Baketech · 02-28-2005, 11:33 AM

Every time this debate goes on I ask the same questions....that go unanswered....

1. How about a link to some data that proves the system works any better than ours...?

2. If the system is better, why does insurance coverage cost more where they have the system?

Both honest questions....if someone can show the data, I'll change my vote...

Until then, I stand firm that we need more personal freedom, and less building blocks for a nanny state on this side of the pond....

Pete · 02-28-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Every time this debate goes on I ask the same questions....that go unanswered....

1. How about a link to some data that proves the system works any better than ours...?

2. If the system is better, why does insurance coverage cost more where they have the system?

Can we add a #3?

3. Why is this issue always brought up by someone either living in, or originally from, a more autocratic society?

luvtolean · 02-28-2005, 11:50 AM

So, how's this going to keep the fat, slow, drunk middle aged yuppie, you know, the demographic the AMA says is creating the most insurance claims, off his Harley?

ConqSoft · 02-28-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

So, how's this going to keep the fat, slow, drunk middle aged yuppie, you know, the demographic the AMA says is creating the most insurance claims, off his Harley?

The tiering shouldn't be based on age. It should be based on riding experience.

luvtolean · 02-28-2005, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

The tiering shouldn't be based on age. It should be based on riding experience.

So explain to me how you'll judge experience?

ConqSoft · 02-28-2005, 12:06 PM

Based on how long you've had your MC license.

In other words, Joe Blow (any age) who just got his MC license shouldn't be able to go out and buy a 1000RR.

Newfie TLR · 02-28-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

Based on how long you've had your MC license.

In other words, Joe Blow (any age) who just got his MC license shouldn't be able to go out and buy a 1000RR.

KJ's RR · 02-28-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

Based on how long you've had your MC license.

In other words, Joe Blow (any age) who just got his MC license shouldn't be able to go out and buy a 1000RR.

No he can Buy it. Just pay the insurance premium for his LACK of Experience.
Definately need a better rating system for experienced drivers.I'm paying premium cause some kid/newbie doesn't know how to ride,yet I had my MC license B4 my cage license when I was 16.

Baketech · 02-28-2005, 12:36 PM

Show me a country with tiered licensing that has lower MC insurance rates than ours....

If the tiered system works better, shouldn't it cost less to insure MC's because of fewer accidents/fatalities as proponents claim....

luvtolean · 02-28-2005, 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

Based on how long you've had your MC license.

In other words, Joe Blow (any age) who just got his MC license shouldn't be able to go out and buy a 1000RR.

In other words it is age based.

ConqSoft · 02-28-2005, 1:02 PM

How do you figure? Someone can get their MC license at 16, or at 50. And frankly, I don't want either of them on a 1000RR.

sheepofblue · 02-28-2005, 1:02 PM

You need a tiered system in Canada. I am in the US and less government is always good so no I don't need it

Newfie TLR · 02-28-2005, 1:05 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

In other words it is age based.

No, I don't think it is. If you are a new rider at 16, or 26, or 66, the rules are the same.

BTW, I HAVE seen this age range at our weekend MSF classes here with a beginner's permit. The 66 Y/O had just paid cash for a V-Rod with $12,000 extra bling.

luvtolean · 02-28-2005, 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

How do you figure? Someone can get their MC license at 16, or at 50. And frankly, I don't want either of them on a 1000RR.

I've never seen you once object to more government controls so I'm not surprised.

I was a better, more responsible rider at 18 on my first bike, a 600 supersport,(couldn't buy a bike until then) than most are with years under their belt. Why? Because I'd ridden unlicensed motorcycles most of my life.