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Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

Over the year I have spent on this forum there has been about 1,743 threads about oil. When I first bought my bike I researched the technical specifications of all the top oils and decided on Rotella T 5w-40 synthetic for my bike due to the combination of price and performance. It has one of the highest flash points, lowest pour points, fewest VII's, etc. I put just over 4000 miles on a sample and sent it in for analysis. I decided that if it performed well I would continue using it and if it didn't that I would keep looking. I got the analysis back today and it performed very well. The viscosity has started to break down at 4000 miles it is now equivalent to a 30w oil down from a 40w. The analysis people seemed pleasantly surprised by how well it was holding up for the amount of miles. For comparison hooliganbiketech.net has posted up before and after analysis of a couple 'top' motorcycle oils and they both suffered slightly larger viscosity drops. The best measure of Viscosity is the V100C. The Rotella dropped from 15.7 to 10.13 over 4100 miles. The Mobile 1 15w-50 dropped from 18.3 to 12.5 (4300 miles), and the Repsol YPF dropped from 16.48 to 10.44 (5000 miles). So all three performed almost equally. The Mobile 1 has a higher starting viscosity but breaks down just as quickly. The higher starting point might make it a good track oil but it is a higher weight than is recommended for my bike, especially here in Iowa with the cold nights. My bike was showing a little high on Aluminum content but the bike was fairly new so might still be breaking in. The Al content was actually much lower than what was showing up in the other oils in the hooligan samples though and his bike has more miles than mine. Maybe he rides harder than I do? Maybe the Rotella just protects better? I don't know but even though my Al content was high it was only about 1/4 of what he got in his oil so something was coming apart in his bike.

I couldn't figure out how to post my analysis report and still be able to delete my personal info without just making it a screen shot so it is in three pieces. Sorry.

I included the technical specs of the Rotella for the 'before' numbers.
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Great post slickwill I'm taking a look at the jigsaw now.
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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

Just realized that I cut my before values from the wrong chart. Those are for the non-synthetic 15w-40 not the 5w-40 synthetic. I'll have to try to find the values again for the 5w-40.

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good info!

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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

Cycle Gear - Motorcycle Apparel, Parts and Accessories is running a sale right now on Castrol R4 Synthetic for $7.99
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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

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Cycle Gear - Motorcycle Apparel, Parts and Accessories is running a sale right now on Castrol R4 Synthetic for $7.99
That would make it $32 a gallon with their total charges (see below), and and it has a cSt V100 of 13, that's like buying used Rotella that has already gone 1000 miles. Quite a bit worse than the Mobile 1 or Repsol also. Rotella is $16.50 a gallon. By paying the $22.50 for an oil analysis and finding out that the Rotella held up as well or better than the most expensive "motorcycle" oils I can save a lot of money on oil now and never even have to wonder if my bike would better off with more expensive oil. The analysis clearly shows that it wouldn't.
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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

Excellent info for us motorheads.
I personally use M1 15-50 synth during the warmer months and the 5-40 Rot syth during the winter. I think they make a great combination.

Both are available at WalMart. M1 in the 5qt jug for $22 and Rot in the 4qt jug for $17. I don't see the need to pay the big bucks for the 15K M1.
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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

good stuff...
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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

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That would make it $32 a gallon with their total charges (see below), and and it has a cSt V100 of 13, that's like buying used Rotella that has already gone 1000 miles. Quite a bit worse than the Mobile 1 or Repsol also. Rotella is $16.50 a gallon. By paying the $22.50 for an oil analysis and finding out that the Rotella held up as well or better than the most expensive "motorcycle" oils I can save a lot of money on oil now and never even have to wonder if my bike would better off with more expensive oil. The analysis clearly shows that it wouldn't.
this is more for the guys with " cycle gear " shops near them, mine's about 10 minutes away, so no shipping charges at all...I may check out the 5/40 stuff you posted though..my oil get's dirty pretty quickly, so if i can change it twice for the cost of 1 R4 oil change, that sounds like a good deal.I'm currently running Amsoil

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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

Great research slickwill. I always had my doubts about the Rotella but you pretty much dispelled that. I'll stick with my semi-synthetic Motul or Repsol for now until I can't get a deal on it. I got 4 litres of Repsol at the Motorcycle Show in Michigan last year for about $24 plus a bunch of Repsol stuff. Looking for it again this Friday.
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Great report, I am going to give it a try in my bike
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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

About 1,500 miles ago had the ring job done as my 2008 CBR1000RR was one of the confirmed oil burners. Went to Shell Rotella T6 from Walmart and so far everything is great. No oil burning / consumption and its running real strong now (compared to before). I am happy with the Rotella T6.
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Thanks! Great info
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Re: Shell Rotella T Synthetic full analysis

I have 25,000 miles on my 07 1k blade and after 15,000 miles switched to rotella 5w-40 synthetic. I change oil every 2000 and filter every other change, and my bike feels like it runs better than a formula 1 engine. I cant say enough about rotella 5w-40 syn. The best stuff on earth, at least for my blade. I think my engine is getting stronger with time. I would not be surprised if I get 100,000 miles before a rebuiled. Keep my fingers crossed.
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I meant to say I switched from dino oil to rotella 5w-40 at 1,500 not 15,000,sorry.
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