[blackblade99]

so i bought a tire off ebay, little did i know it was retreaded. got about 3000km on it and it's startin to look like sh*t. kinda scared to ride on it. anyone have any input or horror stories to persuade me to suck it up and buy another new one??? any advice on good tires to ride??

[.OrgOwner]

Retreads are great on Tractors. On high performance motorcycles there is no place for them. End of story.

[blackblade99]

ya thats kinda what i was thinkin. i wouldn't have bought it if i had known. shoould've read the fine print. any idea's for a new back tire??? i heard metzeler m3's are pretty good.

[macca9540]

Originally Posted by blackblade99

so i bought a tire off ebay, little did i know it was retreaded. got about 3000km on it and it's startin to look like sh*t. kinda scared to ride on it. anyone have any input or horror stories to persuade me to suck it up and buy another new one??? any advice on good tires to ride??

RETREAD? **** man , I won't run retreads on my work van let alone on a bike capable of 280 klmph +.What where you thinking?

[MACI4LIFE]

Originally Posted by macca9540

RETREAD? **** man , I won't run retreads on my work van let alone on a bike capable of 280 klmph +.What where you thinking?

he didn't know it was a retread.

[bettingpython]

Shinko's is what it sounds like. They work great for drag racing lots of local guys run them at the 1/4 mile strip.

[lanbrown]

Or a TomaHawk:
CycleTires.com, Tomahawk Super Tires, Aircraft Tire Technology for your bike ...Utilizing the latest model carcasses from major manufacturers... Tomahawk takes motorcycle tires to another level of performance and good looks!

Cycle Tires - Frequently Asked Questions

"FAQ's
1. The tires that you sell are "remanufactured", what does that mean?

We use radial tire carcasses to remold our proprietary rubber process onto the used tire carcass. Our process is similar in many ways to how a new tire is made. The only thing that is recycled is the carcass. The method is not like a truck tire, which has a pre-cured tread, applied with glue. Our tires are mechanically shaved down via a computer controlled buffing machine to a precise level and then new, uncured rubber is reapplied via a computerized extruding machine in pre-selected compounds. The tires are then inserted into individual molds that have the tread patterns in them and they are recured at high temperature and high pressure….just like a new tire. The motorcycle tires are manufactured with the same processes and quality assurance checks as our aircraft retreads. We use all types of carcass in our process, the types and designs are similar to what you would see coming off of any current bike.

2. The tires are retreaded, is that safe for motorcycles?

Our company has always used the most current technologies; processes, materials and NDT (non-destructive testing) to insure all tires (aircraft or motorcycle) meet our high standards.
Most people associate retreads with the chunks of rubber they see on the freeway or expressway lanes, and some of those chunks are from retreads, however, a significant portion is also from new tires. Most of those tread chunks are from over the road truck dual tire systems, and the cause is where one tire in that dual system has gone flat or has very low pressure, which puts an undue strain on its matching tire. If unchecked, this condition will overheat/overload the tire which has the correct air pressure, and lead to a flat tire, blowout or uncontained failure on that tire, which is what you would see on the pavement. The best practice for tire maintenance (new or retread) is to regularly check and maintain the correct tire pressure as stated in the owner's manual of the vehicle.

3. My dad said he had retreads on his cars, and they were terrible, unreliable but very cheap, is that how your tires perform?

Retreads have come a long way since people were using them on their cars. There are 1000's of truck tire retreaders in the U.S., and most produce an excellent product, but there are only five FAA certified aircraft retreaders in the U.S., and we are one of those retreaders, which include Goodyear, Michelin, Bridgestone and one other independent. Most people are unaware that every time they board a jet transport aircraft, they are riding on retreaded tires. Airlines such as Delta, Southwest, American, Northwest, United, Usair, etc., trust retreads to safely transport 100-300+ people on aircraft valued at over 100 million, on every flight. Safety is the number one concern at any airline, and if their retread tires weren't safe, they wouldn't use them, period.

4. How do your motorcycle retreads differ from other retread tires?

The first thing is D.O.T. approval. We are also approved for aircraft retreads as a certified repair station with the Federal Aviation Administration. Although the D.O.T. has no standards for motorcycle retreads as of yet, we comply with the standards set forth in CFR 571, which has the retread standards for passenger car, and truck tires. We must meet the minimum standards set forth in the CFR's. We go above and beyond those standards, by utilizing exacting tolerances and NDT checks on each tire we produce. One of the NDT techniques we use is laser shearography validation of the tire carcass. In its basic function, laser shearography takes x-rays in real time of the used carcass while in a vacuum, to detect flaws or separations of tread plies, bead plies or any other carcass abnormality, which might affect the performance of the tire. This technique covers the used carcass from bead to bead, and if abnormalities are detected, the carcass is scrapped. The carcass then goes through visual and dimensional NDT checks, balancing, and then through the retread processes and final quality assurance checks before being shipped to the customer.

5. Why do you offer three compounds?

Every rider has a different riding style, techniques, and criteria on how he/she wants he tires to perform. Some riders want the longest wearing tire for commuting, some sportbike riders may want a combination of a longer wearing tire with optimal dry traction, and good wet running capabilities, and other aggressive riders would choose the stickiest grip compound for track/race use and are not concerned with longevity of the tire.

6. Are you the only ones that retread motorcycle tires?

Our joint venture affiliate in the U.K., has been retreading motorcycle tires since 1995, with over 10,000 units in service."

[bettingpython]

That's it Tomahawk, dunno why I was thinking Shinko. Been a long night bad storms around 3:30 and the wifes old dog has had 2 bad seizures in the last 8 hours and shows signs of neurological damage.

[lanbrown]

Sorry to hear that, take care of the little guy and the wife.

[macca9540]

Originally Posted by MACI4LIFE

he didn't know it was a retread.

But he still put it on the bike and rode it after he found out did'nt he?

[blackblade99]

ya but it was better the my old tire. after reading what lanbrown posted i feel a little safer but i don't think i'll buy another one.

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by blackblade99

ya but it was better the my old tire. after reading what lanbrown posted i feel a little safer but i don't think i'll buy another one.

I posted what they have on their site. I would trust that tire to cause serious bodily harm to me but that is to the extent I would trust them.

[bettingpython]

Originally Posted by lanbrown

Sorry to hear that, take care of the little guy and the wife.

Thank you.

She didn't make it, cluster seizures, she had 5 gran mals and 17 petite mals from 11 last night to 6 today. At 14 yrs old it was either a tumor or organ failure. We ahd to have her put down.

[macca9540]

Sorry blackblade99, apparently, according to people that control Rep points, I flamed you with my reply about the retreaded tyre you put on your Blade. I assure you that was not my intention at all. I am a LOUD person by nature and say things sometimes without thinking of the consequences but stand by what I say. It was just my reaction that got a little LOUD in the translation, my apolligies, Macca. (Hope the rep eases the sting)

[MACI4LIFE]

Originally Posted by macca9540

Sorry blackblade99, apparently, according to people that control Rep points, I flamed you with my reply about the retreaded tyre you put on your Blade. I assure you that was not my intention at all. I am a LOUD person by nature and say things sometimes without thinking of the consequences but stand by what I say. It was just my reaction that got a little LOUD in the translation, my apolligies, Macca. (Hope the rep eases the sting)

i certainly didn't take it that way, don't know why someone may have. Your concerns were based on safety first so i don't see a problem.


to TS.

order another set of tires then have fun burning the other set off

Awesome Motorcycle Burnout*Video

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by bettingpython

Thank you.

She didn't make it, cluster seizures, she had 5 gran mals and 17 petite mals from 11 last night to 6 today. At 14 yrs old it was either a tumor or organ failure. We ahd to have her put down.

Sorry to hear about that Bettingpython, I know how it feels to loose a dog. My last one I had to have put down was 21!

Were here if you need us

[bettingpython]

Thanks Twin.

Ok back on topic if your gonna burn the other tire off make sure you tape up your undertail if you don't want it completely screwed up. Blue painters tape works great.

[Twincam]

Originally Posted by bettingpython

Thanks Twin.

Ok back on topic if your gonna burn the other tire off make sure you tape up your undertail if you don't want it completely screwed up. Blue painters tape works great.

Anytime mate, I feel the pain you are going through..

Don’t forget to get a can of deodorant and a lighter (See the video on MACI4LIFE's post #15)

[JSquier]

I got a Dunlop Qualifier for $128 here in Texas and have about 800 miles on it so far and so far, it's been great.

BTW, wouldn't ever put a retread on a bike. I rate that with plugging the front tire. I hot 150 too much to be risking anymore then I already do.

[blackblade99]

no worries macca9540. didn't take offense at all. i wouldn't have put the tire on but i couldn't afford a new one and the old one was pooch'd.

[macca9540]

Originally Posted by blackblade99

no worries macca9540. didn't take offense at all. i wouldn't have put the tire on but i couldn't afford a new one and the old one was pooch'd.

Thats good mate. The powers that be took all my rep points though so I'll just have to keep my big mouth quite from know on.Yeah I know the feeling, money not stretching far enough. I was buying X track tyres off a mate of mine because they were cheap untill I had one front tyre develope a large vibration at high speed. When I took it off it had a fracture in the casing inside from a collision with a wall at his last race meeting. It was a one off as all the other tyres I used before were ok. Still put the wind up me though about second hand tyres for a while. Any how, glad there are no hard feelings.

[.OrgOwner]

Originally Posted by macca9540

The powers that be took all my rep points though so I'll just have to keep my big mouth quite from know on.

This is not true, reputation works via the community and is not a function of admin. Supporting members do have the ability to see who rep'd them and what the comment was.

[macca9540]

Originally Posted by .OrgOwner

This is not true, reputation works via the community and is not a function of admin. Supporting members do have the ability to see who rep'd them and what the comment was.

Where did they go then? I had 12 & 2 now 9 & 0. This is the reason why as posted by invisible man Quote:What are you trying to achieve here? Stay on topic, this arguement is useless. If you want to flame someone go elsewhere. Unquote: