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10-20-2008, 12:07 PM
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Reputation Power: 70 | Tw@t of the day If you're tempted to post video of yourself stunting on youtube....... ....... YOU DESERVE ALL YOU GET!! ITN - Speeding YouTube biker jailed Pucking Fillock!!! Hmmmm.... Those roads look familiar!
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10-20-2008, 12:35 PM
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#2 | | Larry - '00 CBR929RR race bike
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That's one reason I only have track vids online now - but I'm sure some of my road ones are still online somewhere...
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10-20-2008, 12:40 PM
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Yu're only saying that cos the cops thought it was you first of all !!!  *
* I would like to father children one day, so just to let you know i am joking...honest butty!
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10-20-2008, 12:41 PM
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But seriously I do agree what a TW@t. This could become a very interesting thread SB!
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10-20-2008, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bladeracer but I'm sure some of my road ones are still online somewhere... | Is there summut you wanna confess too* bladeracer?! *will check out the interwebnet later.. to gather evidence!
Originally Posted by jazzy Yu're only saying that cos the cops thought it was you first of all !!!  *
* I would like to father children one day, so just to let you know i am joking...honest butty! | True!!!.... I thought it was me, when I saw the white helmet...... ...... then I realised I aint got a power rangers suit
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10-20-2008, 12:47 PM
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10-20-2008, 12:48 PM
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#7 | | Larry - '00 CBR929RR race bike
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Originally Posted by Sideshow bob Is there summut you wanna confess too* bladeracer?! *will check out the interwebnet later.. to gather evidence! |
Just let me check the statute of limitations... ;-)
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10-20-2008, 12:49 PM
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"He has to take an extended driving test before being allowed on the road again..."
You gotta love British humor.  This guy probably rides better than most bikers out there. |
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10-20-2008, 1:04 PM
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10-20-2008, 4:02 PM
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the dumbest part was saying tot he cops about youtube. if he has just kept his mouth shut he probably wouldn't have faced any charges.
I was thinking the Power Ranger suit was the only intelligent thing he did. If you're gonna do stupid dangerous sh!t might as well do it safely, right?
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10-20-2008, 4:09 PM
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Originally Posted by CBR929RE I was thinking the Power Ranger suit was the only intelligent thing he did. If you're gonna do stupid dangerous sh!t might as well do it safely, right? | So true!* *Unfortunatly, Mr Plod is gunna pull all the people wearing them round here now... I live in banbury
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10-20-2008, 6:07 PM
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Tw@t was he thinking!
SSB the white helmet looks more like a storm trooper to me.
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10-20-2008, 6:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBassTurd Tw@t was he thinking!
SSB the white helmet looks more like a storm trooper to me. | |
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10-20-2008, 8:26 PM
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#14 | | Larry - '00 CBR929RR race bike
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Originally Posted by CBR929RE the dumbest part was saying tot he cops about youtube. if he has just kept his mouth shut he probably wouldn't have faced any charges. |
You don't need video evidence to be charged or convicted. There were witnesses that were presumably willing to give evidence since they were the reason for the knock on his door. The videos were just shown to the court for their entertainment value :-)
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10-20-2008, 8:41 PM
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Yes and it's gone global, the story is everywhere. IMO youtube and other sites that allow people to glorify this type of stuff and violence etc should be held liable.
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10-20-2008, 8:49 PM
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I think if this kind of stuff is done in the proper setting, where it is meant to be done it would be awesome to take pictures and videos of. But doing this kind of stuff on a city street is dangerous. And people wonder why bikers have bad reps!
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10-20-2008, 8:51 PM
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#17 | | Larry - '00 CBR929RR race bike
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What about forums where people regularly post about doing extreme speeds on public roads?
It seems to be considered perfectly acceptable?
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10-20-2008, 9:03 PM
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I know it is done, and I know people think it is acceptable but if you want to do extreme speeds find a d@mn track! Thats what they are meant for.
If you want to do stunts do them in an empty parking lot, or something of that nature, NOT on a city street! You would have to be a d@mn good stunter to be able to avoid an accident in a wheelie!
I just feel there are too many things that can go wrong at any given time. Especially in traffic, residential areas (are NOT meant for bikers, especially areas that could have children!). I would much rather be safe than sorry. And with 3 kids of my own, I sure as h3ll wouldnt want someone doing that in my area, why would I do that in theirs???
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10-20-2008, 9:03 PM
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It's a legal and moral minefield I agree but the young minds that accesss this stuff think it's cool and then go on to emulate it.
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10-20-2008, 9:06 PM
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Originally Posted by .OrgOwner It's a legal and moral minefield I agree but the young minds that accesss this stuff think it's cool and then go on to emulate it. |  Thats very true! And I will have one of those young minds here in about a year and I can only hope myself and PhantomOp will be enough of an influence that he will be a safe rider, and know where stuff should and shouldnt be done!
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10-21-2008, 5:39 AM
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Originally Posted by .OrgOwner It's a legal and moral minefield I agree but the young minds that accesss this stuff think it's cool and then go on to emulate it. |
Oh this is so reminiscent of the video games and tv violence arguement. Dont you think they young have minds of their own and do stuff some fullish I admit but thats the learning procees. Its the essence of man to explore so they dont need videos to encourage them. If our minds wernt set to pragram and reprogram itself, we wouldnt have this modern world.
You know some kids will watch that and think the same as you, others will think its fun but tbh adults watching will think the same. |
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10-21-2008, 6:18 AM
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I agree that he was a twat for doing it on a public road, more so for posting online -- the end of the vid shows his website for God's sake!
At least he stunts with FULL LEATHERS, unlike the bigger twats that do so in enclosed areas with tee-shirts, jeans and runners! They are just asking for trouble if you ask me.
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10-21-2008, 6:54 AM
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Originally Posted by setanta Oh this is so reminiscent of the video games and tv violence arguement. Dont you think they young have minds of their own and do stuff some fullish I admit but thats the learning procees. Its the essence of man to explore so they dont need videos to encourage them. If our minds wernt set to pragram and reprogram itself, we wouldnt have this modern world.
You know some kids will watch that and think the same as you, others will think its fun but tbh adults watching will think the same.  |
My concern is not so much whether other kids will copy (Some will some won't). It's that anyone seen on a bike gets tarred with the same brush. People will assume you were doing something stupid a few moments ago even though they didn't see you doing anything.
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10-21-2008, 7:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Surffrog My concern is not so much whether other kids will copy (Some will some won't). It's that anyone seen on a bike gets tarred with the same brush. People will assume you were doing something stupid a few moments ago even though they didn't see you doing anything. |  Thats the problem the minority always screw it up for the nice guys!!
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10-21-2008, 7:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Surffrog My concern is not so much whether other kids will copy (Some will some won't). It's that anyone seen on a bike gets tarred with the same brush. People will assume you were doing something stupid a few moments ago even though they didn't see you doing anything. |
I agree but I think that most people think bikers are hooligans anyway, it stems from the Hells.
So its a lose lose situation anyway. |
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10-21-2008, 7:12 AM
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Originally Posted by setanta I agree but I think that most people think bikers are hooligans anyway, it stems from the Hells.
So its a lose lose situation anyway.  |
Perhaps, but the thinking is if enough of us are seen to disapprove of this type of behaviour on public roads (and are seen behaving ourselves on the road) then they become isolated.
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10-21-2008, 7:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Surffrog Perhaps, but the thinking is if enough of us are seen to disapprove of this type of behaviour on public roads (and are seen behaving ourselves on the road) then they become isolated. |
Yes but there isnt the same attitude towards car drivers and the drunk/reckless ones kill 1000s every year. The other little problem is that those that disagree do so amongst the biker community, so its just a case of preaching to the converted.
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10-21-2008, 7:31 AM
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Originally Posted by setanta Yes but there isnt the same attitude towards car drivers and the drunk/reckless ones kill 1000s every year. The other little problem is that those that disagree do so amongst the biker community, so its just a case of preaching to the converted. |
Very true and there's not a lot that I can think of to do about it other than to practice what I preach  .
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10-21-2008, 1:34 PM
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If you want to balance on one wheel buy a unicycle. If you want to go fast on one wheel put a motor on your unicycle. Motorcycles were designed to take turns and accelerate at high speeds. Not to ride on the back wheel. I admit it is a rush to get the front wheel in the air. But is it worth it if you loop your bike or get a reckless driving ticket? Or worse goto jail like this guy and lose your driving privileges.
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10-21-2008, 1:49 PM
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#30 | | Larry - '00 CBR929RR race bike
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I have to disagree.
Wheelies really hone a number of riding skills including throttle and clutch control and shifting gears since doing anything with the controls while on one wheel requires a lot more finesse than usual.
The thing that keeps a rider interested in learning them is the acheivement of something that is a lot of fun. It's a lot more fun improving your control of your machine this way than doing endless laps of carparks.
Stoppies must have hugely improved many, many rider's braking abilities that otherwise would never have made the effort to learn to use the brake as effectively.
All of these "stunts" offer advantages to riders but such things must be practised in the right circumstances just as learning to twist the throttle wide open should be.
It's the real world out there that we all live in and real riders are doing these things every day all over the planet. Rather than pretend it isn't happening or trying to convince them to stop which is a totally wasted effort (even if Police helicopters fired on such riders they'd still be doing it) it's far better to push the safety aspect and proper circumstances for it.
One day I intend to learn to go back _down_ the gears on one wheel!
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