Radar Detectors

[phantom45]

cordless, affordable, effective? i know those three words don't really work together... but any suggestions?

[rokitt51]

Rocky Mountain Radar | Radar Detectors, Radar Scramblers Very affordable when you think about the tickets they save you from. Saved me on a buddies R1 from Midland Tx to Dallas Tx 3 times in 1 ride. 100 mph in a 70 would have been my @$s!

[submaniac]

honestly, (and I am no expert) but I do not know how effective the radar detector would be, considering that I don't think that a motorcycle gives that much of a radar signature that they could get an accurate radar lock to know your speed to begin with. On a car, a cop is trained to shoot the detector at the front license plate, and a car is big and metal and reflects radar waves. A rider/human being does not reflect radar waves, it absorbs it. Plastic fairings don't reflect radar, and neither do the rubber on the tires...they absorb it. The frontal profile of a motorcycle is very small (at least compared with a motorcycle), so it is a small target to begin with.

Radar is not the only way that cops get you on the freeway. The main way they do it is by 'pacing' you (following and gauging their speedo with your speed). I also think that if the cop thinks you are going too fast, I think they will just give you a ticket and make up a number. I know I have been pulled over for speeding when there was no physical/possible way that the cop could have got a radar lock on me (like he was coming the other way and there was a car in front).

[lanbrown]

But the motorcycle does have headlights, which do reflect. Not all states have frontal plates and cars are not invisible in those states.

Some people swear by the H.A.R.D. system.

[WyoJames]

Originally Posted by submaniac honestly, (and I am no expert) but I do not know how effective the radar detector would be, considering that I don't think that a motorcycle gives that much of a radar signature that they could get an accurate radar lock to know your speed to begin with. On a car, a cop is trained to shoot the detector at the front license plate, and a car is big and metal and reflects radar waves. A rider/human being does not reflect radar waves, it absorbs it. Plastic fairings don't reflect radar, and neither do the rubber on the tires...they absorb it. The frontal profile of a motorcycle is very small (at least compared with a motorcycle), so it is a small target to begin with.

I think your information is flawed, motorcycles are very easy to lock onto with radar, both hand-held and car mounted

[jazzy]

Originally Posted by WyoJames I think your information is flawed, motorcycles are very easy to lock onto with radar, both hand-held and car mounted

Originally Posted by submaniac honestly, (and I am no expert) but I do not know how effective the radar detector would be, considering that I don't think that a motorcycle gives that much of a radar signature that they could get an accurate radar lock to know your speed to begin with. On a car, a cop is trained to shoot the detector at the front license plate, and a car is big and metal and reflects radar waves. A rider/human being does not reflect radar waves, it absorbs it. Plastic fairings don't reflect radar, and neither do the rubber on the tires...they absorb it. The frontal profile of a motorcycle is very small (at least compared with a motorcycle), so it is a small target to begin with. Radar is not the only way that cops get you on the freeway. The main way they do it is by 'pacing' you (following and gauging their speedo with your speed). I also think that if the cop thinks you are going too fast, I think they will just give you a ticket and make up a number. I know I have been pulled over for speeding when there was no physical/possible way that the cop could have got a radar lock on me (like he was coming the other way and there was a car in front).

Well put it to the test, next time you see any sort of radar system open ya throttle, let it rip, and see if you get tagged for a big fat fine That'll answer the question . PLease report back with your findings

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by jazzy Well put it to the test, next time you see any sort of radar system open ya throttle, let it rip, and see if you get tagged for a big fat fine That'll answer the question . PLease report back with your findings

How we will know? if he goes fast enough, he won't be back here for a little while.

[WyoJames]

Originally Posted by lanbrown he won't be back here for a little while.

That might be how we know haha

[lanbrown]

But he could have turned into a grease stain on the road as well though.

[WyoJames]

Touche sir

[jazzy]

Originally Posted by lanbrown But he could have turned into a grease stain on the road as well though.

Originally Posted by WyoJames Touche sir

[phantom45]

ok... so i take it no one uses a radar detector.

so i guess i'll chime in on debate. although they are called "radar detectors" they detect a wide array of radar and laser. and as far as i know, state cops (who are the only law enforcement permitted to use such speed detecting device in pa) use both laser and radar. and seeing how i have a nice little bracket i made to hold one, i figure i'll be rather safe than sorry. i can't afford to loose my license on a double the limit citation. if i can reduce that risk albiet slowing down or using a detector... why not?
when the fuzz are trying to pick off someone the signal bounces around. if you can pick up some of the ricochet of the signal before your even in a line of site of said cop, its a plus.

[Red Rider]

Try doing a search here on "radar detector"...

[bladeracer]

Originally Posted by submaniac honestly, (and I am no expert) but I do not know how effective the radar detector would be, considering that I don't think that a motorcycle gives that much of a radar signature that they could get an accurate radar lock to know your speed to begin with.

There is absolutely no difficulty getting a radar return from a bike.

[rokitt51]

Originally Posted by bladeracer There is absolutely no difficulty getting a radar return from a bike.

[WyoJames]

Originally Posted by phantom45 i can't afford to loose my license on a double the limit citation.

Simple problem to fix...don't do it, very easy and costs you nothing

[jazzy]

Originally Posted by WyoJames Simple problem to fix...don't do it, very easy and costs you nothing

[lanbrown]

Where is in the fun in that?

If you want to play, you gonna have to pay.

[jazzy]

Originally Posted by lanbrown Where is in the fun in that? If you want to play, you gonna have to pay.

Unfortunately, You are spot on. Depends on how fast you play and where and what the surrounding area is. Have a bit of sense and you can still play fast and be safe AND keep your license

[lanbrown]

Or take it to a track.

[Fishboy]

Here in CA., where we ride the "twisties" I'd say my Valentine V1 has saved me from maybe a dozen tickets. It's paid for itself many times over.
I don't ride without it when running the canyons.
If you're going to buy a radar detector, the V1 is the way to go.

[WyoJames]

Originally Posted by lanbrown Or take it to a track.

Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner

[phantom45]

if i wanted a talkin to about speeding and receveing citations for speeding i would have went to my mothers house. i'm sure everyone of you that have some comment about speeding have never ever ever broken the law by going over the limit. i asked for opinions on radar detectors not for a morality inquisition as to why i was asking. i hold my tounge in this forum plenty. i think others should do so as well.

[john brown]

here in the UK we use a gadget like the saphire snooper , check out their web site they also do radar jamming devices that work on the same frequency as reverse park sensers thus they are legal here,they are also self contained units.

[320Dee]

Illegal in South Africa.
They charge you for obstruction of justice, but only after they lock you up and impound your vehicle.

I say if you can get away with it (ie. it's legal) do it. Else sell your bikes and lets all join 100ccdawdlers.org

[WyoJames]

Originally Posted by 320Dee Illegal in South Africa. They charge you for obstruction of justice, but only after they lock you up and impound your vehicle. I say if you can get away with it (ie. it's legal) do it. Else sell your bikes and lets all join 100ccdawdlers.org

Not sure if it's legal in PA (state that the original poster is from) but in most states in the US they are legal on everything except commercial vehicles

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by phantom45 if i wanted a talkin to about speeding and receveing citations for speeding i would have went to my mothers house. i'm sure everyone of you that have some comment about speeding have never ever ever broken the law by going over the limit. i asked for opinions on radar detectors not for a morality inquisition as to why i was asking. i hold my tounge in this forum plenty. i think others should do so as well.

And you got them, I included them below to make it easier.

Originally Posted by rokitt51 Rocky Mountain Radar | Radar Detectors, Radar Scramblers Very affordable when you think about the tickets they save you from. Saved me on a buddies R1 from Midland Tx to Dallas Tx 3 times in 1 ride. 100 mph in a 70 would have been my @$s!

Here is the first suggestion.

Originally Posted by lanbrown Some people swear by the H.A.R.D. system.

The second suggestions.

Originally Posted by Red Rider Try doing a search here on "radar detector"...

The last suggestion.

You are not the first, nor the last to ask about radar.

[phantom45]

Bravo...

[On The Road]

Originally Posted by submaniac honestly, (and I am no expert) but I do not know how effective the radar detector would be, considering that I don't think that a motorcycle gives that much of a radar signature that they could get an accurate radar lock to know your speed to begin with. On a car, a cop is trained to shoot the detector at the front license plate, and a car is big and metal and reflects radar waves. A rider/human being does not reflect radar waves, it absorbs it. Plastic fairings don't reflect radar, and neither do the rubber on the tires...they absorb it. The frontal profile of a motorcycle is very small (at least compared with a motorcycle), so it is a small target to begin with. Radar is not the only way that cops get you on the freeway. The main way they do it is by 'pacing' you (following and gauging their speedo with your speed). I also think that if the cop thinks you are going too fast, I think they will just give you a ticket and make up a number. I know I have been pulled over for speeding when there was no physical/possible way that the cop could have got a radar lock on me (like he was coming the other way and there was a car in front).

Hard to lock on with Radar, especially if there's other traffic nearby.
Radar is unchanged in principle from WW2.
It uses a wide band of frequency that floods out and needs to bounce back to the device, it needs an extremely steady hand to get a lock on bike, the bike needs to be heading towards the operator, not at a sharp angle.
In addition, in bad weather like rain, it won't give an accurate reading if at all. Mind you, using you're bike going fast in the rain isn't a wise option all the time.

The real 'danger' is from laser targetting readers that give a precise speed of a vehicle.
These are the ones that'll get you a lot easier. Some of them resemble an assault rifle and can be used at long range and kept steady.
I think in rain you'll also still be at risk although fog will prevent it from getting a hit.
On cars that have tilted numberplates and aerodynamic shapes it's tougher.
On motorbikes I'm not sure, like someone said headlights are a place they can target.

[bladeracer]

Originally Posted by On The Road On motorbikes I'm not sure, like someone said headlights are a place they can target.

I've spoken with a few cops here and they aim the laser at your helmet.
Can get you at 600+ meters no problem at all.