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BT016 tyre wear ?

My tyres seem to get eaten around the middle, they don't tend to get mad hot to the touch and I'm running 36psi hot, which after some trial and error seems to be a nice pressure for the roads I ride and there are no problems with grip.



Trouble is i'm only getting around 800miles per tyre, ie. about 5 or 6 good runs before they're shot, which is slightly ridiculous, or is it? is that normal for a 2008 fireblade ?

I was thinking of running a slightly harder compound BT021 but don't want to sacrifice (much) grip, or should I just get the suspension checked out instead ?
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

I'd be interested to see what other people have to say about this. I had an 016 fitted last Monday and I've done around 200 miles on it and the left side of the tyre is starting to look like your photo. Pressure is ok at 36psi and the suspension was setup last year by HM Racing. I hope I get more than the 800 miles you say you've got from yours!
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

800 miles?? out of a triple compound tire? are you on the track? Hell, I got 5k out of 012s. Just got 016s and already have 600 miles on them, they look brand new and believe me, I have run them.
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

**** dude i was thinking off gettin them not now.... had 208rrs on 954 and got 2500 miles outta them and thats divin da bag outta da have 209gp racers on now savage tyre 1000 miles donethe look to be okay for another 1000 ...
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

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My tyres seem to get eaten around the middle, they don't tend to get mad hot to the touch and I'm running 36psi hot, which after some trial and error seems to be a nice pressure for the roads I ride and there are no problems with grip.



Trouble is i'm only getting around 800miles per tyre, ie. about 5 or 6 good runs before they're shot, which is slightly ridiculous, or is it? is that normal for a 2008 fireblade ?

I was thinking of running a slightly harder compound BT021 but don't want to sacrifice (much) grip, or should I just get the suspension checked out instead ?
Have you tried the manufacturer's specified 36/42psi cold?
How much mileage is on the tyre in the photo?
If you can find Dave Moss's videos they're the best I've seen explain how to read your tyre wear. Feel The Track! Tire unusual markings and wear patterns

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Have you tried the manufacturer's specified 36/42psi cold?
How much mileage is on the tyre in the photo?
If you can find Dave Moss's videos they're the best I've seen explain how to read your tyre wear. Feel The Track! Tire unusual markings and wear patterns
Larry there was a an article in Fast Bikes magazine were they said this type of tyre ware could be from riding the tyre to hard from COLD
The pic below looks very similar

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Larry there was a an article in Fast Bikes magazine were they said this type of tyre ware could be from riding the tyre to hard from COLD
The pic below looks very similar

Sorry wrong problem, just checked out the mag again, and they were pointing this problem in the way of too SOFT suspension.

Also good link Larry, just the way I was heading

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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

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Have you tried the manufacturer's specified 36/42psi cold?
How much mileage is on the tyre in the photo?
If you can find Dave Moss's videos they're the best I've seen explain how to read your tyre wear. Feel The Track! Tire unusual markings and wear patterns
That was the link I was looking for Looks like he has some hot tear and maybe rebound issues

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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

Have/had a tendency to put weight over the front (to stop wheelies) which I'm told could lead to wheel spin in the lower gears have now firmed up the suspension now also.

Anyone run race tyres on the road? Dunlop 209GP or BT003 the best ?
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

I'm running BT016 on the back, BT003 on the front.
No problems at all.
run 42psi rear and 36 front on the road, have 4000klm's on the rear, including a trip to Phillip island(2000k round trip), which is just easy riding due to world superbike w-end.
got a little bit of life left in them yet.
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

just got a set of bt016s so we'll see what I get out of them. I have about 6k on the 2cts that are on there now and they are done. I can see from your pic the tire is getting eaten up badly. Looks like lots of hard acceleration and cornering. Mine never work that hard.
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Anyone run race tyres on the road? Dunlop 209GP or BT003 the best ?
Do slicks count :-)
I've done many, many thousands of kms on the road on slicks.
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

Use Michelin's CT2 tyres, last long and grips like hell and in wet. I have this one line running down the right hand side of the tyres but this abrasiveness is due to a 220kmh turn to the right (ride the road everyday). To be expected, but still not seriously damaging the tyre.

My friends 09 R1 came out with the Dunlop D210 qualifier's and they also had same problem, and now after 3000km he needs to start thinking of replacing them.
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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

My feeling is you are really turning up the wick fast or shifing like mad up & down the cogs. For that will be the reason for wear in the center. I am still with BT-014 on my bike, but next for the rear will be BT-016 unless I change to a different make.

Thing of accelleration to also gearing down fast & using the motor as part of the stopping power--------that means a lot of strain on the rear tyre.

Personally with a 180 on my Honda 929 or 954 I only use 34lbs of cold air pressure.

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Re: BT016 tyre wear ?

It looks like your suspension is too soft, which is probably causing those lips in the tread grooves.

It's the July09 issue of FastBike which has the "Tyre Talk" spread, some good information in it.
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