No Respect

*kf4mtw* · 01-24-2005, 7:27 AM

Why is the XX performance so under rated? People are shocked when I go by them and say they never saw one run that fast. All I did was bolt on a Two Bro's full system, dyno before and after, 130 to 141 hp. full dyno said fuel burn was perfect and no need for power commander's or anything. A well tuned Busa with a 170 lb rider is a dead even match for me from 0-rev-limiter in 6'th gear unless one of us hit's the limiter. 2005 gxxr's and cbr1000's will pull away a little until I get in 5th then I go by in 6th. Many Busa and ZX12 owner's have told me after I beat them they were gonna buy an XX but the salesman talked them out of it, said it wasn't as fast

Couple month's ago was playing with the speed gun in West Palm and made a pass 11000rpm past the gun 178mph, speedo said 195, had another 500 rpm's to go

I have never even seen another XX with a full system around here except one with a turbo. Do I have an extreme 2002 bike or are they all this fast?.

Chain · 01-24-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kf4mtw

A well tuned Busa with a 170 lb rider is a dead even match for me...

What sort of race we talking about bro?

A stock busa is putting down about 20 hp more to the rear tire than your modded XX is (and I'm guessing the Suzook still wins the torque battle too).

CBRBob · 01-24-2005, 12:01 PM

In the end, the XX will outlast the Bugly.

BeachGuy · 01-24-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chain

What sort of race we talking about bro?

A stock busa is putting down about 20 hp more to the rear tire than your modded XX is (and I'm guessing the Suzook still wins the torque battle too).

I'd think that the aerodynamics of the busa would be an advantage too, at least at the top end, considering that kf4mtw is talking about running to the top of 6th gear.

*kf4mtw* · 01-24-2005, 1:49 PM

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I'd think that the aerodynamics of the busa would be an advantage too, at least at the top end, considering that kf4mtw is talking about running to the top of 6th gear.

Another misconception that confuses me about Busa's aerodynamics. Park an XX next to a Busa, walk across the street and look at them side by side, the Busa is visably wider and has a larger opening for the radiator intake behind the tire not to mention ugly as hell. I can run a Busa off the line and stay side by side till we hit the rev limiter in 6th gear and be a dead even race most of the time if it's stock, well tuned, with a full exhaust. If he's got factory pipe's there's no race for me. I have never met a ZX12 I couldn't beat unless he had motor work.

I weigh 165 lbs.

cbr99xx · 01-24-2005, 2:02 PM

*kf4mtw* · 01-24-2005, 2:40 PM

I guess that answers it, If none a ya'll can outrun an Eyeabuser, I reckon them little fella's was feelin good when they built mine,

Intimidator · 01-24-2005, 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cbr99xx

So true.

Intimidator · 01-24-2005, 2:45 PM

At the track, (dragstrip) all of the XX's I've seen are better competitors for the pumped up Hardley's. I've never seen one come close to a busa.

Baketech · 01-24-2005, 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cbr99xx

Don't hog it all....jeez...

Chain · 01-24-2005, 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kf4mtw

Another misconception that confuses me about Busa's aerodynamics. Park an XX next to a Busa, walk across the street and look at them side by side, the Busa is visably wider and has a larger opening for the radiator intake behind the tire not to mention ugly as hell.

There is no misconception whatsoever about the Hayabusa's areodynamics. Its bodywork was designed in the wind tunnel; it is (and remains) the motorcycle with the world's lowest drag coefficient.

Here's an article you might find useful in gleaning of some solid information on the subject:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0106_aero/

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Originally Posted by kf4mtw

I guess that answers it, If none a ya'll can outrun an Eyeabuser, I reckon them little fella's was feelin good when they built mine,

That must be the answer then, because I fail to grasp the notion of a Honda XX which weighs more, is less slippery through the wind, and makes about 20 less hp at the rear wheel outrunning a Hayabusa in virtually any contest of acceleration.

Sorry, but until I get down to your neck of the woods and we can plot out a suitable location to settle our little grudge match, I gotta flag ya for this one mate.

ConqSoft · 01-24-2005, 3:01 PM

The XX is a nice bike, and was the fastest in its time. I still miss mine and wish I had kept it. But a Busa killer it is not.

CBR929RE · 01-24-2005, 3:12 PM

if you put a ninja 500 next to a busa you'll see it's skinner also. doesn't mean it has less drag.

*kf4mtw* · 01-24-2005, 3:41 PM

Okay, either I got a good Blackbird or the few dozen Busa's I raced were pig's.
The Blackbird was built in a wind tunnel too before the Busa was, the Busa was built to beat the Blackbird, remember?. Suzuki needed 200 more cc's to do it. This year's A.M.A. Prostar Street Bike Shootout ended up with Kent Stotz 1100cc Blackbird turning a 7.256 et at 200.49 mph against Barry Henson's 1300 cc Busa turning 7.254 et at 197 mph. Both bike's are 500 lbs with 500 horsepower, they go at it every race like that, same turbo's. One would think the "aerodynamically supreme" Eyeabuser would have more mph than that. Right now as we speak, engineers from Kawasaki and Suzuki are dreading the next Honda Hot Rod to be released in this country, remember, Honda set's the standards for them wannabe's. When the 750 was winning Daytona 35 years ago they were making radio knobs for Datsun's.

*kf4mtw* · 01-24-2005, 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

The XX is a nice bike, and was the fastest in its time. I still miss mine and wish I had kept it. But a Busa killer it is not.

I said the same speed, side by side, not killer.

l'timbré · 01-24-2005, 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kf4mtw

Okay, either I got a good Blackbird or the few dozen Busa's I raced were pig's.
The Blackbird was built in a wind tunnel too before the Busa was, the Busa was built to beat the Blackbird, remember?. Suzuki needed 200 more cc's to do it. This year's A.M.A. Prostar Street Bike Shootout ended up with Kent Stotz 1100cc Blackbird turning a 7.256 et at 200.49 mph against Barry Henson's 1300 cc Busa turning 7.254 et at 197 mph. Both bike's are 500 lbs with 500 horsepower, they go at it every race like that, same turbo's. One would think the "aerodynamically supreme" Eyeabuser would have more mph than that. Right now as we speak, engineers from Kawasaki and Suzuki are dreading the next Honda Hot Rod to be released in this country, remember, Honda set's the standards for them wannabe's. When the 750 was winning Daytona 35 years ago they were making radio knobs for Datsun's.

Pete · 01-24-2005, 3:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kf4mtw

Do I have an extreme 2002 bike or are they all this fast?.

They are all that fast and you are a god-like rider.

So, now that you have finally heard what you obviously wanted to hear, will you please shut your phucking mouth from spewing any more senseless, idiotic, and ignorant bullshit that nobody here gives a rat's ass about?

CBR929RE · 01-24-2005, 3:51 PM

the ubberfast extremely high top speed thing started in the late 80s early 90s when Kawasaki developed the ZX11, right?
(someone correct me if I'm wrong on this)

Baketech · 01-24-2005, 3:53 PM

I fuggin knew I shoulda got the big bucket....

Red Rider · 01-24-2005, 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete

They are all that fast and you are a god-like rider.

So, now that you have finally heard what you obviously wanted to hear, will you please shut your phucking mouth from spewing any more senseless, idiotic, and ignorant bullshit that nobody here gives a rat's ass about?

Pete's back...

Going to have to make a double batch for this one.

Baketech · 01-24-2005, 3:55 PM

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*kf4mtw* · 01-24-2005, 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete

They are all that fast and you are a god-like rider.

So, now that you have finally heard what you obviously wanted to hear, will you please shut your phucking mouth from spewing any more senseless, idiotic, and ignorant bullshit that nobody here gives a rat's ass about?

shut up you Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader Wanna-be this is the blackbird section. I thought a good one at that since all the other one's I found only discuss tank bra's and handlebar risers. I was asking a serious question and got an answer so crawl your porch monkey ass back up the tree you fell out of and be nice.

Serial Thriller · 01-24-2005, 5:40 PM

Don't mind "Pete." He's just not very good at flirting.

Intimidator · 01-24-2005, 5:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chain

There is no misconception whatsoever about the Hayabusa's areodynamics. Its bodywork was designed in the wind tunnel; it is (and remains) the motorcycle with the world's lowest drag coefficient.

Here's an article you might find useful in gleaning of some solid information on the subject:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_0106_aero/

That must be the answer then, because I fail to grasp the notion of a Honda XX which weighs more, is less slippery through the wind, and makes about 20 less hp at the rear wheel outrunning a Hayabusa in virtually any contest of acceleration.

Sorry, but until I get down to your neck of the woods and we can plot out a suitable location to settle our little grudge match, I gotta flag ya for this one mate.