Which to get for first bike???

Baketech · 08-16-2004, 10:07 AM

Doesn't everybody...

929_Nupe · 08-16-2004, 10:08 AM

no matter what you start off on ... you can trade it in weeks later

for something else , ride that for a few more months and tade up again .... keep doin this and you'll be on a 1000rr in a year and a half tops

Holeshot · 08-16-2004, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by literbike

Have you thought about insurance yet? I'd be scared to death to see what an insurance bill would be on a 16 year-old on a gixxer 750(im assuming you want full coverage?). Id have to agree with CBR929RE, older model bike would be better and cheaper, with still enough power to have fun on.

Look into a dual-sport bike as a learning. My wife is learning on our DR250S and it seems pretty easy to learn on plus you have to be pretty spastic to really f*ck upon a 250 (unless you are trying too).

I can't imagine trying to learn to ride sport-bikes on the street at age 16. I don't care how much dirt experience you have. Sure.. shifting, braking and controls basically translate but not much else (I rode and XR600 long before I got my first street bike and I damn near put myself into a tree on the fooker first day riding it

)

Good luck. I'd start off in a cage but if you just can't do that.. try out a 250 mini-cruiser or a dual sport and BE CAREFUL! Cagers are lame.

Holeshot · 08-16-2004, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrider69

how can you crash it and sell it for what you bought it for?

Easy.... unlike street bikes dirt bikes are built to crash...

HondaGalToo · 08-16-2004, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrider69

i checked out the permit deal. in pa you can ride with your permit only so im good for that. as for a job after school, im going to try to look for something, but most of the jobs are either at 2 gas stations, a dairy bar, or a small grocier(is that spelled right??

), and all of thoes jobs are already taken by older students that can drive.

this is why i cut grass.

That's cool, but you don't want to ride around on a permit forever. Take the MSF, which is free in PA, and get your license. Plus you'll learn a lot of good stuff at the MSF. Statistics show that most motorcycle accidents happen to those who are self-taught, as compared to those who have taken formal training.

TGZ13 · 08-16-2004, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

That's cool, but you don't want to ride around on a permit forever. Take the MSF, which is free in PA, and get your license. Plus you'll learn a lot of good stuff at the MSF. Statistics show that most motorcycle accidents happen to those who are self-taught, as compared to those who have taken formal training.

I am with Hondagal on this one. MSF is key to starting out and I recommend it to all people I talk to that ask about how to get started.

In the weekend that I went I watched people who didn't know what a clutch was or how to use it to actually being able to pass the test and keep it under control. Now don't get me wrong MSF doesn't mean you will never crash but it is a great starting point

Once you do that the more seat time you put in the better you will become

redrider69 · 08-16-2004, 12:41 PM

i planed on taking a msc eventually but i was just saying that you are aloud to ride alone with only your permit. also doesnt a licence cost money?? even when you get it re-newed?

TGZ13 · 08-16-2004, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrider69

i planed on taking a msc eventually but i was just saying that you are aloud to ride alone with only your permit. also doesnt a licence cost money?? even when you get it re-newed?

Yes but I didn't know permits were free

929_Nupe · 08-16-2004, 1:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGZ13

Yes but I didn't know permits were free

Maybe in PA they are .....

HondaGalToo · 08-16-2004, 2:25 PM

Isn't there a limit as to how long you can hold a permit? Isn't there a certain amount of time it's good for before you get the license? C'mon, licenses aren't THAT expensive, and you have to do it eventually. I really don't think you can ride on a permit indefinitely, they do expire.

redrider69 · 08-16-2004, 2:40 PM

im sure you can keep you permit as long as you want in pa.

929_Nupe · 08-16-2004, 2:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrider69

im sure you can keep you permit as long as you want in pa.

I'm sure you have to pay to renew each year

TGZ13 · 08-16-2004, 2:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrider69

im sure you can keep you permit as long as you want in pa.

Nothing is free forever youngster

redrider69 · 08-16-2004, 3:00 PM

that just may be true!!!!

redrider69 · 08-16-2004, 3:01 PM

that just may be true!!!!

HondaGalToo · 08-16-2004, 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrider69

im sure you can keep you permit as long as you want in pa.

No, a permit is valid for one year from the date of issue, according to this, read section d

CBR929RE · 08-16-2004, 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redrider69

i checked out the permit deal. in pa you can ride with your permit only so im good for that. as for a job after school, im going to try to look for something, but most of the jobs are either at 2 gas stations, a dairy bar, or a small grocier(is that spelled right??

), and all of thoes jobs are already taken by older students that can drive.

this is why i cut grass.

well sounds like where you live sucks so a bike would make life much more enjoyable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGZ13

That might not be the same kind of grass that he is talking about

hahahahaha

if he was dealing with that type of grass he'd have a brand new bike sitting in the garage waiting for him when he gets his license

TGZ13 · 08-16-2004, 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBR929RE

hahahahaha

if he was dealing with that type of grass he'd have a brand new bike sitting in the garage waiting for him when he gets his license

Or he would be so toasted he would forget he ever wanted a bike in the first place

Conan · 08-16-2004, 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ND4SPD

i agree.
but the best bike to learn on if you havent riding before is a dirt bike. Get your hands on one of those and learn on that first, so that you get the whole concept of riding before you go out with an expensive bike and were there are alot of cars around and there is no room for mistakes. your less likely to hurt yourself or the bike or anyone else. Then jump on a cbr250, for your first road bike. they're quick enough. When i had a 250 i was keeping up with all the 600's and 1000's in the mountains.
do it smart the first time, because you might not get another go at it if u dont

redrider69 · 08-17-2004, 8:51 AM

not quite the same grass but thats ok, i only cut that kind every once in a while.

as for dirt bike ive been riding them as well as quads since i was 8.

figment · 08-18-2004, 10:59 AM

expect to get hurt.

then you will ride more within your abilities. Dont become over confident. You can get just as dead on a dirtbike as a street bike. Be careful, be patient. (I know, this is almost impossible for most 16yo

)

A "sport" bike is an absolute disaster waiting to happen for a person with little or no experience. Any bike with a standard riding postion will be better. A dualsport would be a great starter bike that could last you through school if need be. You can pick up used KLR, DR or XR bikes pretty resonably and the insurance might be a lot cheaper too.

psubond · 08-25-2004, 4:45 AM

i'm sure you've heard this before, but take these words to heart. if you do start riding on the street (you should do this in the dirt also) WEAR YOUR GEAR. gloves, helmet, boots....all that stuff. it'll save your life if you end up needing it...trust me i speak from experience ***ouch***. another thing, ride within your abilities. you don't need to be doing 3rd gear wheelies a week after you get the bike. just chill and learn to ride and enjoy it. it comes with time no matter how much "natural talent" you have. PA has some kick ass twisties...have fun and take it easy, you don't always have to be dragging a knee to have fun. just my .02

oh, and i'd reccomend a used F4 or F4I...VERY forgiving bikes and they're still plenty fast.