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voltron · 04-26-2006, 8:32 PM

whats up. i recently posted in the 1000 forum for a friend but i'm back.
i live in NYC and 2 weeks ago i was cut off by a cab and hit on to the sidewalk and plowed my ducati monster900 into a fire hydrant. the bike got most of it (its totaled) and i will be alright soon. as soon as i get the money that bastard owes me. i only had that bike for 2 months and i was loving it.
but now that i have a chance to get a new bike i was thinking about the 06 CBR600. i wanted to see if you could shed some light on the power characteristics of this bike. i really liked the low end torque of the monster but handling wise, it was lacking. how is the 6 off the line and does gearing help. i have never owned a sport bike, i have a supermoto and had the monster.

G-Force Junkie · 04-26-2006, 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron

whats up. i recently posted in the 1000 forum for a friend but i'm back.
i live in NYC and 2 weeks ago i was cut off by a cab and hit on to the sidewalk and plowed my ducati monster900 into a fire hydrant. the bike got most of it (its totaled) and i will be alright soon. as soon as i get the money that bastard owes me. i only had that bike for 2 months and i was loving it.
but now that i have a chance to get a new bike i was thinking about the 06 CBR600. i wanted to see if you could shed some light on the power characteristics of this bike. i really liked the low end torque of the monster but handling wise, it was lacking. how is the 6 off the line and does gearing help. i have never owned a sport bike, i have a supermoto and had the monster.

If you liked the low end grunt of the Duc, you'll be dissapointed with the 600. They are just made to be wound up, and not alot down low.

CBR929RE · 04-26-2006, 8:44 PM

600F4i or 600RR. I say go with the RR.

and dude your name rules. That was my favorite cartoon when I was a kid.

voltron · 04-26-2006, 8:46 PM

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600F4i or 600RR. I say go with the RR.

and dude your name rules. That was my favorite cartoon when I was a kid.

yes the RR. mine too, i still have the original voltron toy.

voltron · 04-26-2006, 8:49 PM

the duc that i had, has 77 HP and 53Foot L/B of torque. will i be that disappointed.

CBR929RE · 04-26-2006, 8:50 PM

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yes the RR. mine too, i still have the original voltron toy.

if its the metal one I hate you. I only have the black and yellow lions left. no idea where the rest of them went. someday I'm gonna break down and buy the damn thing on ebay.

the 600rr has more HP but less torque MotorCyclist says 106.9 and 44.6. I haven't ridden one but I don't think you'll be dissappointed.

voltron · 04-26-2006, 8:51 PM

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if its the metal one I hate you. I only have the black and yellow lions left. no idea where the rest of them went. someday I'm gonna break down and buy the damn thing on ebay.

i've seen them for around 100 bucks.

voltron · 04-26-2006, 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron

the duc that i had, has 77 HP and 53Foot L/B of torque. will i be that disappointed.

anybody.

CBRVFR · 04-26-2006, 9:28 PM

Well, since you specified that torque was the thing you liked most about the duc, it's clear that this is a different animal altogether. Pretty much all the front line 600's need to be ridden at very high revs. The 2 exceptions that readily come to mind are the Kawi 636 and the Triumph 675, for obvious reasons.

The goods news is that they rev up really fast, and they're very agile. You see bikes all the time in your environment, which ones seem to do the best? Talk to other NYC / Boston / Chicago riders.

A literbike has more torque, but it might be frustrating to ride where you live..

Welcome to the .org.. we really don't care what you ride.

voltron · 04-26-2006, 9:35 PM

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Well, since you specified that torque was the thing you liked most about the duc, it's clear that this is a different animal altogether. Pretty much all the front line 600's need to be ridden at very high revs. The 2 exceptions that readily come to mind are the Kawi 636 and the Triumph 675, for obvious reasons.

The goods news is that they rev up really fast, and they're very agile. You see bikes all the time in your environment, which ones seem to do the best? Talk to other NYC / Boston / Chicago riders.

A literbike has more torque, but it might be frustrating to ride where you live..

Welcome to the .org.. we really don't care what you ride.

do you mean " a lighter bike" and what is the torque spec on the the new RR.

CBRVFR · 04-26-2006, 9:47 PM

No. I actually spell better than that, usually.

there are 1000 cc's in a liter.. therefore a literbike refers to a thousand- like the CBR1000RR, GSXR1K, R1, etc.

Roadracingworld did a comparison this month of the front line 600's and pegs the Honda at 43.2 ft-lbs at 10,450 rpm. the Kawi 636 has 47 at 11,000, the GSXR 600 has 44.3 at 11,000, the R6 has 42.9 at a CLAIMED 11,250.

The ZX14 has 113.5 ft-lbs at 7500....

voltron · 04-26-2006, 9:54 PM

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No. I actually spell better than that, usually.

there are 1000 cc's in a liter.. therefore a literbike refers to a thousand- like the CBR1000RR, GSXR1K, R1, etc.

Roadracingworld did a comparison this month of the front line 600's and pegs the Honda at 43.2 ft-lbs at 10,450 rpm. the Kawi 636 has 47 at 11,000, the GSXR 600 has 44.3 at 11,000, the R6 has 42.9 at a CLAIMED 11,250.

The ZX14 has 113.5 ft-lbs at 7500....

thanks. i think the new RR is like 50 something pounds lighter than my duc.
and it has only 10 ft-lbs of torque less. will that balance it out.

seamus · 04-26-2006, 10:00 PM

If you want "grunt" like the Duc, stick with a V twin (RC51, SV1000). You're not going to find it in a 600, and it'll take a big I4 to get anywhere near the lowend torque you're talking about

BDA116 · 04-26-2006, 10:04 PM

The biggest difference with the engine characteristics is that you are comparing a v-twin to an inline four.
The v-twin will feel MUCH torquier down low, becuase it is. It has a lower redline and the power comes in lower. The torque on the CBR600 comes in a few thousand RPMs higher than the Monster's redline.
They are just plain different. More different than comparing apples to oranges.
Yes, you the difference in torque feel will be very noticable.
However, the difference in overall power feel, bike weight and handling will be even more noticable.
The answer to your question is just another question: Which would you prefer?

voltron · 04-26-2006, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

The biggest difference with the engine characteristics is that you are comparing a v-twin to an inline four.
The v-twin will feel MUCH torquier down low, becuase it is. It has a lower redline and the power comes in lower. The torque on the CBR600 comes in a few thousand RPMs higher than the Monster's redline.
They are just plain different. More different than comparing apples to oranges.
Yes, you the difference in torque feel will be very noticable.
However, the difference in overall power feel, bike weight and handling will be even more noticable.
The answer to your question is just another question: Which would you prefer?

i need a test drive.