2007 Honda CBR 600RR

kawboy69 · 08-17-2006, 12:13 AM

Has anyone heard anything??

Originally Posted by Mario Sobral
According to french magazine MotoRevue, the 2007 CBR 600 RR will be a completely radical MotoGP race replica, and will be aimed at the new R6. It will have a slipper clutch and, may even have some sort of electronic traction control (on a 600?). It seems it may just be a fuel mixture change if ity detects wheel spin, for instance, but impressive it it does have some sort of attempt to bring that type of technology to the common rider. The magazine also states one of the aims will be to reduce the weight down to 190 Kg(419 lbs) when fully "wet" (all fuel, liquids, lubricants, etc). Still according to MotoRevue, the engine will be completely new and should top the revs achieved by the current 600 bikes (although the tiny article mentions 19,000 rpm, I doubt it). I do believe it may try to go to the 17,500 (real rpm) just to throw dust on Yamaha's face after the marketing mess of the new R6 announced rpms...

Here's the scanned reference, with an edited photo of what the new CBR 600 RR COULD look like:

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ConqSoft · 08-17-2006, 12:16 AM

(Converted it out of the word doc so more people could view it.)

kawboy69 · 08-17-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ConqSoft

(Converted it out of the word doc so more people could view it.)

Thanks ..

phobiaphobe · 08-17-2006, 12:59 AM

I'm sure it'll be a blockbuster. I really believe Honda want to shake their perceived "staid" image... We all know they have the engineering and development chops to do it.

There'll be plenty of speculation over the next few weeks, but one thing you can be guaranteed of is that it will look a LOT like a RC211V. (that's a terrible photochop though

)

booracer · 08-17-2006, 1:04 AM

pretty impressive stuff. any info on power and $$$?

Repeater · 08-17-2006, 1:09 AM

They'll just add a banana seat to it.

bwhip · 08-17-2006, 1:29 AM

I'd love to see that kind of technological advancement, but let's hope it's not as butt-ugly as that photo...

Repeater · 08-17-2006, 3:47 AM

SomeStrangeGuy · 08-17-2006, 4:08 AM

you trust the french for anything more then fried potatoes, what are you thinking

If it looks anything like that photo, they will be sure to sell exactly zero.

Thanks for the info

SomeStrangeGuy · 08-17-2006, 4:09 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

but one thing you can be guaranteed of is that it will look a LOT like a RC211V.

I'm holding you to this.

MACI4LIFE · 08-17-2006, 8:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeStrangeGuy

you trust the french for anything more then fried potatoes, what are you thinking

If it looks anything like that photo, they will be sure to sell exactly zero.

Thanks for the info

Fried potatos and michelin pilot powers

Heavy-Dee · 08-17-2006, 10:22 AM

Whatever they do, rest assured that it will be a colossal disapointment.

HD

BDA116 · 08-17-2006, 10:29 AM

There is a long running thread on the 600rr forum about the next bike. There are 6 or 7 different photoshopped pics, including the one above.
A few more weeks and we'll know all about it anyway.
And yes, I'm sure it will be a huge disappointment, just as the initial '03 and re-done '05 were.
Such huge disappointments to the other teams in World SuperSport, that is. Especially disappointing to that laughingstock known as the GSXR600 in pretty much all 600 series.

Heavy-Dee · 08-17-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Especially disappointing to that laughingstock known as the GSXR600 in pretty much all 600 series.

Yea, got me there.

My next bike will be an already race prepped 2006-7 R6. Well, my next race bike anyway. But that won't be for awhile.

Need to pay for the following first:
Undergraduate Tuition
Graduate School Tuition
Payoff my car
Buy my wife a car
take a vacation
buy a new truck
buy a toyhauler
save a boatload
take a vacation

did I mention a vacation?

HD

BDA116 · 08-17-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

did I mention a vacation?

HD

I didn't see it in your list.

Oh, and you may want to really look into that R6 plan. Talk about overhyped disappointments.

Really though, unless you plan to be top points man in your region there is no point in trying to chase down the latest hypemobile.
Even then it is all about the rider.

luvtolean · 08-17-2006, 11:16 AM

We'll see....Honda hasn't released anything radical for the unwashed masses...well....ever.

The RC 30/45s were radical, but very pricey and limited homologation models.

And the NR of course, the most radical streetbike ever made, but I don't see that coming for the 600RR....

Pete · 08-17-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

I really believe Honda want to shake their perceived "staid" image...

The last time they did anything remotely related to shaking that image was the '93 Fireblade. Truth it, it is us that want them to shake it, but they don't seem to be listening.

You can take the BDA approach (see his post above) all day long, with good cause and solid basis, but as I have said in the past, it sure would be nice to see a Honda blowing away all the others in the moto-mags and online reviews.

And what LTL said.

Heavy-Dee · 08-17-2006, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Really though, unless you plan to be top points man in your region there is no point in trying to chase down the latest hypemobile.
Even then it is all about the rider.

werd. That's why there are a bunch of other things on my list before another race bike. God willing I'm keeping this one for a while.

If Fasttrax goes under it may be on the block.

BDA116 · 08-17-2006, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete

The last time they did anything remotely related to shaking that image was the '93 Fireblade. Truth it, it is us that want them to shake it, but they don't seem to be listening.

You can take the BDA approach (see his post above) all day long, with good cause and solid basis, but as I have said in the past, it sure would be nice to see a Honda blowing away all the others in the moto-mags and online reviews.

And what LTL said.

Agree. I'm another that would love to see an earth-shattering, bleeding-edge 600 (actually a 650) out of Honda, but to be honest I bet all we get is something that just pips the others by a hair.
Honda doesn't really have to do much to the bike in order for that to happen, as none of the other three are really that much better. I'm sure we'll see the slipper clutch, electronic throttle, ~10 lbs lighter and a few more ponies, but not the 350lb wet, 120bhp 600RR monster Honda has the resources to make (and so does the aftermarket

).

phobiaphobe · 08-17-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

We'll see....Honda hasn't released anything radical for the unwashed masses...well....ever.
..

Careful meow.

CB750
CBX
original VFR
Hurricane
Aluminum CR250
900RR
98 VFR
GL1800
RC51
VTX
Rune
600RR (ready for replacement now, but way ahead of the pack in '03 with 8 injectors, GP style design)

I'm sure your version of radical is different than mine.

phobiaphobe · 08-17-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

Agree. I'm another that would love to see an earth-shattering, bleeding-edge 600 (actually a 650) out of Honda, but to be honest I bet all we get is something that just pips the others by a hair.
Honda doesn't really have to do much to the bike in order for that to happen, as none of the other three are really that much better. I'm sure we'll see the slipper clutch, electronic throttle, ~10 lbs lighter and a few more ponies, but not the 350lb wet, 120bhp 600RR monster Honda has the resources to make (and so does the aftermarket

).

One thing's for sure, they will leave some room for upgrades which will appear in the '09.

luvtolean · 08-17-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Careful meow.
Aluminum CR250
900RR
I'm sure your version of radical is different than mine.

I came back to add 93 900RR (after Pete mentioned it I remembered it), but on these two bikes you list I'll agree, all were very radical, change the industry, average consumer priced bikes.

phobiaphobe · 08-17-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Careful meow.

CB750 world's first superbike
CBX 6 cylinders
original VFR v4 superbike
Hurricane first modern middleweight
Aluminum CR250 WAY ahead of its time
900RR open class power in a middleweight package
98 VFR stroked fuelly RC45 motor, gear drive up the side, ELF swinger, pivotless VTR frame
GL1800 ultimate ultimate ultimate luxury tourer
RC51 homologation vtwin superbike for cheap
VTX first of the huge-ass metric power cruisers
Rune ok not for the masses but show me 1 other bike like it
600RR (ready for replacement now, but way ahead of the pack in '03 with 8 injectors, GP style design)

I'm sure your version of radical is different than mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by luvtolean

I came back to add 93 900RR (after Pete mentioned it I remembered it), but on these two bikes you list I'll agree, all were very radical, change the industry, average consumer priced bikes.

My rationale in bold above

luvtolean · 08-17-2006, 12:09 PM

Yes, I know what the bikes were. I won't retort to each one, but they were also basically dead end bikes, except the 900 and the aluminum perimeter frame CR. Both of these were leaps ahead, and changed the industry.

The Goldwing is close maybe, but it was a slow, logical evolution...

kawboy69 · 08-17-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by booracer

pretty impressive stuff. any info on power and $$$?

Not that I have heard this was all I could find on the 600RR but in sure it will be around 10 grand easy..

phobiaphobe · 08-17-2006, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by luvtolean

Yes, I know what the bikes were. I won't retort to each one, but they were also basically dead end bikes, except the 900 and the aluminum perimeter frame CR. Both of these were leaps ahead, and changed the industry.
..

I will respectfully disagree.

tigerblade · 08-17-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Heavy-Dee

My next bike will be an already race prepped 2006-7 R6.
HD

I've read that those burst into flame too easily on a lowside.

QuikMike · 08-17-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tigerblade

I've read that those burst into flame too easily on a lowside.

it's interesting you should mention that, TB, b/c I am beginning to wonder if the manufacturer's are starting to teeter on the bleeding edge/performance vs. dependability/reliability line....I mean, if a race-prepped R6 will burst into flames on a routine lowside, geez, what does that say about how close the Yamaha is the reaching the point of diminishing returns?

Heavy-Dee · 08-17-2006, 12:27 PM

I've heard the same, but not of many instances. Besides. No more crashing for me.

smoothrideronli · 08-17-2006, 1:05 PM

I am late I know....but Honda has no reason to make a top performance class leading sportbike...we ask for one but we still buy what they give us anyway...