[daniel_welch07]

I am 17 and can get any 600cc bike i want when i graduate and i dont know what one is the best. The 07 cbr600rr, ninja zx-6, gsxr600, or the yamaha r6. Any info on any of them would be nice thank you.

[HondaGalToo]

See my reply in the other thread. For your first bike, you're gonna want something used, because you will drop it. More than once, most likely. See the other thread you replied to for my recommendations on a good first bike.
Welcome!

[ND4SPD]

None of the above. Way too much power for a beginner.

[RC51PilotDC]

If this'll be your first bike, and you choose a racing bike, it may be your last. Go with something more forgiving that you won't get bored with quickly. Consider a Suzuki SV650s Suzuki SV650(S - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Good Luck.

[Heavy-Dee]

SV 650 is a great bike for a beginner. However, since you probably have your heart set on a 600 middleweight I'm going to give you some honest, useful advice.

Buy a cheap ass, ugly ass all get out old honda CB350 or something for a few hundred bucks. and ride it around for a few months. Get good on it. Focus on skills like devensive riding and cornering and braking. Take a riding class. I took the MSF course when I was 16 and it was really helpful. I learned a ton.

Then buy the 600 that you want. With a little bit of practice, training, and a lot of respect, a 600 middleweight can be safely handled by a novice. Assuming of course that you aren't a stunna. In which case you're an idiot and I wasted my time typing all of this.

Good luck, have fun and be smart.

HD

[daniel_welch07]

I have been riding dirt bikes since i was 7 (never raced) but i rode a lot. I rode my dads cbr 929 when i was 14. It was way too big for me. but thank you guys for all the usful info

[CBRVFR]

SV's are also very adaptable to track and aggressive riding in the twisties, and a well-ridden one will more than keep up with a squid on a front-line 600 where it counts.
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Take the long-term view.. if you want to ride bikes your whole, long life, start small, take every class you can including track schools, and get a different one every year or two. That way, when you can affoird the latest and greatest, you won't embarass yourself when a 50-year old on an SV smokes your ass...

Spend your parents' money on great protective gear, and don't ride with idiots. Good luck, hope you stick around!

[daniel_welch07]

Thank you I will take great consideration in the sv650. I was just going for the looks i guess and wasnt considering my safety.

[CBRVFR]

Originally Posted by daniel_welch07

Thank you I will take great consideration in the sv650. I was just going for the looks i guess and wasnt considering my safety.

Kawasaki has a fully faired 650 twin that is pretty nice looking, if that's important to you.

[RC51PilotDC]

You can always throw lower fairings on the SV650s for a more sporty look. Do a google "image" search and you'll see a bunch of examples. V-twin's are fun bikes. Racers tend to love them for the track and they're great for around-town riding.

[CBRVFR]

I have to say, I like your attitude. Some 17 year olds would have a harder time listening to this...

[daniel_welch07]

Does anybody know where i could get lower fairings for the sv650.

Which would be recommended the kawi or suzuki

[CBRVFR]

Check on SVRider.com for those kinds of mods. The Kawi is a parallel twin, and is pretty comparable to the SV performance-wise, with slightly less power. The people I've seen at the track who have them say they're a lot of fun.

The SV has a huge community of enthusiasts and hop up parts are plentiful.

Someday Honda will pull their head out and will again make a bike in this class.


Kawasaki Ninja650R link

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[HondaGalToo]

Yay, he's listening! You have a good attitude, we like that! As I've said before, motorcycling can be a sport you enjoy for a lifetime, if you approach it intellegently. I have met so many great folks who's paths I wouldn't have crossed if it wasn't for motorcycles. I learned on 250 and 175cc bikes when I was 14. I didn't have the means to get my own till I was 26. When I did, it was an '82 Yamaha 650 special. A parallel twin. The SV and the Kawi 650 will be similar power-wise to learn on (probably a bit more power, actually), with sportier ergonomics. My Special was a standard with a more upright seating postion. The next bike was a "real" sportbike, a '92 FZR 600. It is very slow compared to the more modern 600s, but it still was scary fast. I'd been riding the '82 650 twin for 6 years, and hopping on the sportbike was like learning to ride all over again. Power delivery much quicker!
Start on the SV or Kawi 650. Get a used one, and use the money on courses and good gear. Wear the gear all the time. Once you have a year or two under your belt, take a track school, like Reg Pridmore's CLASS.

[BDA116]

If you lived closer, I'd strongly recommend you have mom and dad buy you the '07 600RR and keep in touch.
But, since you don't.............go with the above advice.

[CBRVFR]

You're pretty sarcastic for a 73 year old.

[CBR600King]

Have you considered a VFR400 NC30 or the CBR400 NC29 as a first bike? Both great bikes for beginners/smaller riders. Low seat height, low maintenance and super performance for little 'uns. I was in the same dilemma when i was looking to buy my first bike, looked at SV's and Bandits but just had to have some form of proper sports bike under me and couldnt get my head round the half faired 'all sorts' bikes like the SV.

I ended up spending my first 6 years with an VFR400 NC30, plenty of go to keep me happy in this time and BLOODY BRILLIANT on the track when your confident enough. The little 400's will have you feeling as good as Rossi in no time at all...

All the best,
Rob

ps - Did ride an SV once or twice since buying the VFR though and can say they are a great bike to ride and could be loads of fun!! Had me knee down on one at the first time of trying :-)

[OSIRIS]

Originally Posted by CBR600King

Have you considered a VFR400 NC30 or the CBR400 NC29 as a first bike? Both great bikes for beginners/smaller riders. Low seat height, low maintenance and super performance for little 'uns. I was in the same dilemma when i was looking to buy my first bike, looked at SV's and Bandits but just had to have some form of proper sports bike under me and couldnt get my head round the half faired 'all sorts' bikes like the SV.

I ended up spending my first 6 years with an VFR400 NC30, plenty of go to keep me happy in this time and BLOODY BRILLIANT on the track when your confident enough. The little 400's will have you feeling as good as Rossi in no time at all...

All the best,
Rob

ps - Did ride an SV once or twice since buying the VFR though and can say they are a great bike to ride and could be loads of fun!! Had me knee down on one at the first time of trying :-)

Those bikes are hard to find over on this side of the pond and if you do, they're usually expensive

[CBR600King]

Osiris thats sad news as these would be ideal bikes to start on for a youngster. Is it very expensive to get them imported from UK/Japan? Over here you can pick up a MINT VFR or CBR for around £1200 UK pounds. Guess by the time you've added import taxes etc etc its not economical to do so... Which as i say, is a shame

Rob

[Heavy-Dee]

Originally Posted by CBRVFR

Kawasaki has a fully faired 650 twin that is pretty nice looking, if that's important to you.

More on racing the Kawi 650. Pretty cool stuf.

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[HondaGalToo]

Originally Posted by CBR600King

Osiris thats sad news as these would be ideal bikes to start on for a youngster. Is it very expensive to get them imported from UK/Japan? Over here you can pick up a MINT VFR or CBR for around £1200 UK pounds. Guess by the time you've added import taxes etc etc its not economical to do so... Which as i say, is a shame

Rob

It IS sad news, because you're right, the 400cc bikes are excellent beginner bikes that look like, and are, real sportbikes. If we had good options like that here, maybe we wouldn't have so many guys killing/injuring themselves on 600 and 1000cc sportbikes that they've purchased as their first bike. Provided, that is, that the 400cc sportbikes became considered as "cool". Otherwise, no one would buy them anyway. That's precisely why we don't have them here. No one wants to buy a "little" bike and since we don't have tiered licensing, they are foolishly allowed to go out and buy whatever they want.

[Heavy-Dee]

Give up da rep to daniel peeps.

[CBR600King]

Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

Provided, that is, that the 400cc sportbikes became considered as "cool". Otherwise, no one would buy them anyway. That's precisely why we don't have them here. No one wants to buy a "little" bike and since we don't have tiered licensing, they are foolishly allowed to go out and buy whatever they want.

They would soon be considered as "cool" when the little 400's start stuffing it up the inside of the bigger bikes , my CBR600 is no doubt much faster than my NC30 was, but there's no way i can corner as fast on the CBR, the little VFR was on rails!

Rob

[Mojave954]

Originally Posted by daniel_welch07

Thank you I will take great consideration in the sv650. I was just going for the looks i guess and wasnt considering my safety.

You will love that bike. Welcome to the addiction