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03-13-2007, 3:52 PM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep:  (10) Rep Power: 0
| Won't start... Hi, I just bought a crashed F4i, the headlights etc are missing and the bike wont start. It cranks... The only wires that are not connected are the ones on the picture... anybody know what am I missing to get it running ???? Kris | |
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03-13-2007, 5:32 PM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Is it me or is your gauge cluster missing? I haven't tried it but I hear that the F4i won't start without them |
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03-14-2007, 3:32 AM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Yes it is missing, but so far I heard that it should run without it... but not 100% sure... |
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03-14-2007, 7:20 AM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... I have heard both ways, depending on the weather tonight I'll try to go out to unplug mine and we'll both have a 100% positive answer |
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03-14-2007, 7:23 AM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
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03-14-2007, 7:38 AM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... The Bank angle box is also missing...maybe thats why... |
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03-14-2007, 8:02 AM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
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03-16-2007, 7:11 AM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Forgot all about this while I was out there last night. I'll be sure to go out and unplug the cluster tonight to see what happens |
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03-16-2007, 7:59 AM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
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03-17-2007, 5:41 PM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Okay, just unhooked the gauge cluster (both connectons) and it fired right up. I didn't unhook the bang angle sensor (pretty sure that will keep it from firing). So there we have it, proof positive that it will fire without the gauges hooked up |
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03-19-2007, 2:39 PM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Thanks for your time.... I borrowed a bank angle sensor from the local dealer and hooked it up... but still no fire.. after I hooked up the sensor I can hear the engine stop relay clicking when turning the key... I pulled one of the spark plugs out to see if there where any spark... but nothing... |
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03-19-2007, 2:42 PM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... may have fouled them during all the other trys to start the bike. Did you find out what those three connectors go to? |
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03-19-2007, 3:26 PM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... So far I think the 2 small ones goes in the gauge and the big grey one is for the bank angle sensor, turn lights, Head lights etc.. I found a service manual and that what I understand from the wriring diagram... I think it must me possible to cheat the engine stop relay... but I dont know how... |
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03-19-2007, 3:33 PM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Here is a pic of what the connections to the end of the cluster should go into, they are a square box one white one black, this pic is one off an 06. mine is an 02 and looks the same as these. put this link in your browser to see the pic http://i4.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/93/07/e004_1.JPG |
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03-19-2007, 3:55 PM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... The wire on the pic is the one I still have... The 2 small connector I have goes into the gauge... see the pic... |
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03-19-2007, 3:57 PM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... ................. |
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03-19-2007, 4:01 PM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Some days I'm much stupider than others.... |
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04-06-2007, 4:25 PM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... HI again.. the bike starts.. jahuuu The problem was the transponder...the thing that sends the signal from the key to the cdi box.. but also the bank angle sensor has to be there, wont run without it. Now I have to figure out how to avoid the bank angle sensor.. |
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04-06-2007, 7:29 PM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... just bypass the circuit by jumping the wires together |
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04-06-2007, 9:56 PM
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| Join Date: 06-03-2006 Location: Arizona
Bike(s): 95, CBR 900RR Posts: 1,719
Rep: (51) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Quote:
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04-06-2007, 9:59 PM
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| Join Date: 06-03-2006 Location: Arizona
Bike(s): 95, CBR 900RR Posts: 1,719
Rep: (51) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... In the UK the ignition assembly sends a signal to the ECU telling it... "hey I'm the right key for this bike and I'm not being stolen". The ECU is matched to the key and switch I believe. US bikes don't have that feature. |
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04-07-2007, 1:46 PM
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| Join Date: 02-21-2007 Location: seattle
Bike(s): cbr 929 Posts: 20
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... to jump the bank sensor jump the red/white (the signal wire) to the green(ground) and you should be good to go. |
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04-07-2007, 2:30 PM
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| Join Date: 01-23-2007 Location: Indiana
Bike(s): 2002 CBR600F4i Age: 27 Posts: 3,876
Rep: (98) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... More info here if needed Bank angle sensor |
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04-12-2007, 5:13 AM
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| Join Date: 03-13-2007 Location: Demark
Bike(s): CBR 600 F Posts: 11
Rep: (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: Won't start... Super.. I jumped the wires and it runs... thanks guys.... |
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