600RR Not Competitive--BS

Trackho · 11-19-2003, 1:16 PM

For all you guys that keep crying about the 600RR being non competitive

From Chris Siglin '03 R6 rider, winner of the Suzuki Cup(on 2 wheel tuesday last night):
'Chris Peris, young fast kid from Canada, came down with his 600rr honda and was going really good right off the bat on saturday and I knew he would be trouble for the races. Jason Perez and Chuck Graves were both in China for the Macau GP so no playing with those guys that weekend '

'So back to the first race, I got a great start, hole shot, and led around the first few turns and all of a sudden Chris Peris comes flying by me, I couldn't beleive he was pushing so hard on the first lap of the race with these temps, this might be where Michlins have a slight disadvantage, I just couldn't match his pace on the first 2 laps and he gained a nice little gap which I could never close. I ended finishing 3rd right behind Robbie Dowie. '

and the second race:
'I was angry that I let that happen so for the 2nd race I had to sack up and just do it on the first lap. I had the exact same guys again in this race to deal with, Peris and Dowie. Once again got the hole shot and once again Peris flew right by me into turn two as his bikes is sliding and just begging to let loose, I said screw that I can ride on the edge as well and twisted the throttle and was down his neck for the whole race, drafted by him into turn one but then he out braked me into 3 and just couldn't get by him, beat me to the line by half a bike length. HIs honda is sooo fast, that thing seriously hooks up and goes!'

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums....d=51240

luvtolean · 11-19-2003, 1:19 PM

And your point is?

Trackho · 11-19-2003, 1:22 PM

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luvtolean : And your point is?

That you guys keep saying that the 600RR is NOT competitive cuz it weighs too much---then you start whining about the 1000RR--seems that in amateur racing it is in fact quite competitive, specially when traction may be an issue, ie the 'weighty' mass centralization and new pro-link might actually give a bigger advantage than a few lbs

tigerblade · 11-19-2003, 1:23 PM

...and he would have been even faster on an R6!

No one is saying the 600RR isn't a great bike! But it's all relative!

QuikMike · 11-19-2003, 1:35 PM

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tigerblade : ...and he would have been even faster on an R6! *

No one is saying the 600RR isn't a great bike! *But it's all relative! *

TB, you'd better be careful saying good things about a Yamaha...some folks on this board might accuse you of not being loyal to Honda and consider you a turncoat!!

tigerblade · 11-19-2003, 1:37 PM

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QuikMike : TB, you'd better be careful saying good things about a Yamaha...some folks on this board might accuse you of not being loyal to Honda and consider you a turncoat!!

It must the the New R1 Fever. BDA knows. It just takes hold of ya and you get visions of dancing tuning forks in your head...

deez · 11-19-2003, 1:38 PM

He's not a turncoat, he's a got damn fieldworker http://misterb.speedyard.net/images/finger.gif

QuikMike · 11-19-2003, 1:44 PM

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tigerblade : Quote (QuikMike @ Nov. 19 2003, 12:35pm)TB, you'd better be careful saying good things about a Yamaha...some folks on this board might accuse you of not being loyal to Honda and consider you a turncoat!!

It must the the New R1 Fever. *BDA knows. *It just takes hold of ya and you get visions of dancing tuning forks in your head...

abtech · 11-19-2003, 2:05 PM

He should quit whining . . . Kevin Lacombe could have come down and handed everyone their collective asses . . .

Trackho · 11-19-2003, 2:16 PM

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abtech : He should quit whining . . . *Kevin Lacombe could have come down and handed everyone their collective asses . . .

Ab---What happened?

half · 11-19-2003, 2:18 PM

I was going to race a 600rr next year, but heard they had some suspension problems. Can anyone confirm this ?

soon2b954 · 11-19-2003, 2:22 PM

I have seen both Kevin and Chris race up here quite a few times. Both are very capable riders. We have some good young riders here.

And no the 600RR is not slow, look at World SuperSport!!

ND4SPD · 11-19-2003, 2:27 PM

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half : I was going to race a 600rr next year, but heard they had some suspension problems. Can anyone confirm this ?

Such as?

I've got no problems with mine after 3k miles

tigerblade · 11-19-2003, 2:35 PM

I haven't heard of suspension problems either. Only thing I'd heard was some smoke on deceleration as a problem?

QuikMike · 11-19-2003, 2:47 PM

and just in case anyone forgot, check this

I'd say that's pretty fast for a fat, slow, overweight bike

roadracer319 · 11-19-2003, 3:02 PM

not again.....

ND4SPD · 11-19-2003, 3:08 PM

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QuikMike : and just in case anyone forgot, check this

I'd say that's pretty fast for a fat, slow, overweight bike

abtech · 11-19-2003, 3:17 PM

Don't know what happened to Kevin, but here is some general info rider info (this guy is faasst&#33.Bio

fl-929 · 11-19-2003, 5:28 PM

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QuikMike : and just in case anyone forgot, check this

I'd say that's pretty fast for a fat, slow, overweight bike

* *

The bike clocked 179.4mph at the Monza round of the championship, but with the right gearing 185mph should easily be in reach.

Ten Kate have boosted the power of the stock bike by over 30 per cent at the rear wheel while retaining the usability of the road bike with ample torque and power, and a smooth drive from 3000rpm to the redline.

The result is a user-friendly race bike which is only four seconds slower than Neil Hodgon’s 999 around Valencia.

Trackfan · 11-19-2003, 6:34 PM

Isn't Chris Perris the dude that caused the $200,000 debacle in one of the last AMA races this season?

I saw him throw it away last weekend at Willow. I also saw him light that CBR on fire in T19 at a Fastrack date in Fontana.

Ahhhh...to be young again.....!

Siglin, Perris, Perez.....great DNA for future stardom!

RaggedEdge · 11-19-2003, 8:40 PM

From the www.canadiancyclist.com website, news page for Oct 11, 2003, regarding a bicycle race in which Lacombe was participating.

Lacombe Okay

Canadian Kevin Lacombe, who crashed on the first lap of the Junior Men's race this morning and was taken to hospital, is okay, according to a member of the CCA staff. He suffered a concussion, the staff member said. The official press release says that he is at Hamilton General Hospital with head injuries. Hamilton General is the trauma centre for south central Ontario. Right now, Lacombe is listed in critical condition. His family is with him.

roadracer319 · 11-19-2003, 9:09 PM

[quote]Isn't Chris Perris the dude that caused the $200,000 debacle in one of the last AMA races this season?

I think his drain plug fell out as he entered turn 3 at VIR. It was a big mess.

Trackfan · 11-20-2003, 12:46 AM

[quote=roadracer319,Nov. 19 2003, 9:09pm]Quote Isn't Chris Perris the dude that caused the $200,000 debacle in one of the last AMA races this season?

I think his drain plug fell out as he entered turn 3 at VIR. *It was a big mess.
Yeah....his dad is the wrench. And how the fooog did he get through tech? *

Pete · 11-20-2003, 7:31 AM

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Trackfan : Yeah....his dad is the wrench. And how the fooog did he get through tech? *

They wrenched on the bike after passing tech.

ccwilli3 · 11-20-2003, 8:12 AM

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QuikMike : Quote (tigerblade @ Nov. 19 2003, 1:23pm)...and he would have been even faster on an R6! *

No one is saying the 600RR isn't a great bike! *But it's all relative! *

TB, you'd better be careful saying good things about a Yamaha...some folks on this board might accuse you of not being loyal to Honda and consider you a turncoat!!
relax quikmike,

he's talking about the NEW R6, not that slagged out POS of yours!

QuikMike · 11-20-2003, 8:47 AM

ha, ha

don't quit your day job.....