Honda CBR400RR: Discuss the Honda CBR400RR in this section. This part of fireblades also covers the Honda CBR 250 and CBR 125.
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Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23
07-22-2009, 8:54 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Folks,
I would like to introduce myself and a little bit my background
im from INdonesia and never had a bike before...and now, lately i just curious to rebuild a "treasure" that i had a CBR 400_NC23.
With condition of that bike, not been using for about 5 years. With my less experience in motorcycle, i encourage myself try to fix of course as far as i can doing such as take off fairing, tank, spark...according to latest user that bike had problem with CDI.
I try to looking for the engine number, which i can't found...can any one help me to show where it is?
here's my new toy
where is the best way to start to make this bike on again?
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07-22-2009, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: 01-31-2006 Location: Johannesburg
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 its very much worth it - even if its for the experience - I would recomend you find yourself a manual first then tackle the task, take loads of photos as you strip - and try place nuts and bolts in little plastic bags (labeled).
Parts are very cheap for smaller bikes like that - you need a bit of pateince and you will find everything on ebay.
Good luck.
Last edited by Surffrog : 07-24-2009 at 3:32 AM.
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07-22-2009, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 experience....i like that sir
sir, do you mean including a manual might found at ebay? thanks for your advice about plastic bags
PS:does anyone had a manual for CBR 400_N23? beside ebay, where can i get it?
Thanks
Last edited by tryer : 07-22-2009 at 10:22 AM.
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07-22-2009, 3:24 PM
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Join Date: 07-30-2008 Location: England
Bike(s): CBR400RRR Posts: 63
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Hi, the engine number can be found near the clutch lever on the engine, going across the engine, very hard to see.
Last edited by Twincam : 07-22-2009 at 6:25 PM.
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07-23-2009, 3:57 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by davez Hi, the engine number can be found near the clutch lever on the engine, going across the engine, very hard to see. two links for you, one parts fishe, the other manuals. Better if you can to buy a Haynes as its nice to have a hard copy while working on the bike. dave |
thanks dave, i'll try to look after the number |
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07-23-2009, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: 07-30-2008 Location: England
Bike(s): CBR400RRR Posts: 63
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Sorry for linking to the manuals, some sites dont mind, others do. You dont know till you try. At least the parts sites ok even though it shows the fiche.
sorry twincam |
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07-23-2009, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 still haven't found the engine number  |
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07-23-2009, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 is it true from this picture we can trace what year of production the bike:
Front wheel
Brake pipe
PS : what is the aero mean for CBR? |
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07-23-2009, 1:42 PM
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#9 | | Out Of Many, We Are One
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 I think the Aero is a specific model (different fairings) but not 100% sure.
I've seen a few members on here with them...
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07-23-2009, 10:28 PM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 I'd information that this bike was having a problem with the CDI. Is it true that this bike had 2 CDI type on it? & is it possible to had different CDI than the original on it?
By the way, is 23 y-o bike wouldn't be to tired to build&ride it? |
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07-24-2009, 3:10 AM
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Join Date: 09-07-2007 Location: Currently in Guelph, Ontario, Canada
Bike(s): '88 Hawk GT; '98 Blade (now sold) Age: 57 Posts: 1,235
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by tryer By the way, is 23 y-o bike wouldn't be to tired to build&ride it? | My '88 Hawk GT just gets better and better  as it receives improved parts, like custom pipe, uni-pod air filters, 900RR shock, fork srings and valve kit, etc.
So yes, as long as it is a nice machine to start with, there is no reason not to rebuild it |
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07-24-2009, 3:40 AM
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Join Date: 01-27-2007 Location: Thailand
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by tryer still haven't found the engine number  | It's probably in the same place as the NC29. If you look at the right side of the bike (like when you are sitting on it) you can see the clutch lever pivot into the gearbox. The number will be under that lever running toward the centre of the bike. Once you have seen part of the number (and the direction in which the number is written) the best way to get at it is to place a piece of masking tape over it and rub it down with a soft leaded pencil. When you pull the tape off you will have the number etched on it. Otherwise you'll have to take everything off that area of the bike to read it. |
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07-24-2009, 5:13 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by ghbzorro My '88 Hawk GT just gets better and better  as it receives improved parts, like custom pipe, uni-pod air filters, 900RR shock, fork srings and valve kit, etc.
So yes, as long as it is a nice machine to start with, there is no reason not to rebuild it | well, then it's a lot home work for me to find out wheter the machine are that good or not
PS : Is that your baby on avatar? cool bike |
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07-24-2009, 5:16 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by Surffrog It's probably in the same place as the NC29. If you look at the right side of the bike (like when you are sitting on it) you can see the clutch lever pivot into the gearbox. The number will be under that lever running toward the centre of the bike. Once you have seen part of the number (and the direction in which the number is written) the best way to get at it is to place a piece of masking tape over it and rub it down with a soft leaded pencil. When you pull the tape off you will have the number etched on it. Otherwise you'll have to take everything off that area of the bike to read it. |
is the clutch lever under the air filter box? thanks for your tips mate....it's remind and helping me to look after that number  |
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07-24-2009, 7:43 AM
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Join Date: 09-07-2007 Location: Currently in Guelph, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by tryer well, then it's a lot home work for me to find out wheter the machine are that good or not
PS : Is that your baby on avatar? cool bike | Saya pekir motor anda bisa bagus telau and kerja sedikit. Motor NC23 bagus sekali.
Sorry if there are a lot of mistakes, but it's been 9-1/2 years since I left Jakarta and Bontang (East Kalimantan)
Yes, that is my current pride and joy.  |
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07-24-2009, 8:12 AM
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Join Date: 01-27-2007 Location: Thailand
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by tryer is the clutch lever under the air filter box? thanks for your tips mate....it's remind and helping me to look after that number  | No, you should be able to see the clutch lever coming out of that right side of the bike about 10-20 cm's above the brake pedal. Just above the word Honda on the engine cover. |
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07-24-2009, 1:05 PM
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Join Date: 07-30-2008 Location: England
Bike(s): CBR400RRR Posts: 63
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 pull your clutch lever in and you will see it move in the spot where surffrog mentions |
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07-25-2009, 4:08 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by ghbzorro Saya pekir motor anda bisa bagus telau and kerja sedikit. Motor NC23 bagus sekali.
Sorry if there are a lot of mistakes, but it's been 9-1/2 years since I left Jakarta and Bontang (East Kalimantan)
Yes, that is my current pride and joy.  | wah...senangnya ada yg bisa berbahasa melayu...its ok, masih bisa di mengerti konteksnya
i used to birth, grew and work in Jakarta till August 08 i moved in to Padang, Sumbar.....still look for CDI mate  |
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07-25-2009, 4:18 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by Surffrog No, you should be able to see the clutch lever coming out of that right side of the bike about 10-20 cm's above the brake pedal. Just above the word Honda on the engine cover. | hmhmhm, i'll try again then on that right side  |
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07-25-2009, 4:23 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 ok dave.....i'll try to look after again then i'll let u know |
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07-26-2009, 4:29 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Good news guys...I've already found it the engine number...thx to surffrog&dave in this
Now, I can move to the next crutial step...checking those number wheter might be registered/not at the police, because that bike doesn't registered before |
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07-27-2009, 3:54 AM
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Join Date: 01-27-2007 Location: Thailand
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by tryer Good news guys...I've already found it the engine number...thx to surffrog&dave in this
Now, I can move to the next crutial step...checking those number wheter might be registered/not at the police, because that bike doesn't registered before | You're welcome, Tryer. That's a good start. Tell us, what is the law in Indonesia regarding registration and motorbikes? Is it expensive? |
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07-27-2009, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Hmhm, if the bike are sold from the authorized(main dealer or imported by those whom paid the tax) they're free to ride cause they alredy paid the taxes & had registered by the police...mostly 100-150cc bike, it still rare for cc above 250.
So, mostly the big cc bike(400 ² ) are come to indonesia by those whom didn't paid taxes, so the bike wouldn't registered by the police.
Mostly they join the bike club or use fake identity to had the SLOB(signed Letter number vehicle) but still don't had the 'ownership' letter...back again coz not following the prosedural term...so this kind of bike had unfaired price..so yup, I it expensive
Hehe, it's kinda difficult to understand huh?
Yup, that's what happened here  |
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07-27-2009, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
Bike(s): CBR 400R_AERO_NC23 Posts: 62
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Not to mention the very rarely the seller who sell part for this kind of bike,even they had..to be compared with the resale value of this bike is doesn't make sense... |
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07-28-2009, 7:57 AM
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Join Date: 01-27-2007 Location: Thailand
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Quote:
Originally Posted by tryer Hmhm, if the bike are sold from the authorized(main dealer or imported by those whom paid the tax) they're free to ride cause they alredy paid the taxes & had registered by the police...mostly 100-150cc bike, it still rare for cc above 250.
So, mostly the big cc bike(400 ² ) are come to indonesia by those whom didn't paid taxes, so the bike wouldn't registered by the police.
Mostly they join the bike club or use fake identity to had the SLOB(signed Letter number vehicle) but still don't had the 'ownership' letter...back again coz not following the prosedural term...so this kind of bike had unfaired price..so yup, I it expensive
Hehe, it's kinda difficult to understand huh?
Yup, that's what happened here  | Thailand's quite similar unless the bike is over ten years old (then it avoids official import duty), but there are still costs involved. To register a bike without a book (and if you've just imported it the bike won't have one) will cost 80,000 baht on anything over 250cc, which means we have many bikes riding around illegally because people don't want to pay the registration fee. |
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07-28-2009, 11:09 PM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Well, at least there's something more sure about the regulation, in thai is over 10years even there's also a cost but for sure the amount are clear  |
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07-29-2009, 12:41 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Guys, I've already found the cdi@ebay..still wait. For reply from theseller it Is suitable for mine.
Is cdi for cbr400aero nc 23 1989 are suitable for 1986?
When we change cdi, is there any additional change following the cdi? Such as cable or etc?
Considering the efficiency shiping cost
Thanks |
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07-29-2009, 3:24 AM
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Join Date: 01-27-2007 Location: Thailand
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Tryer, someone else will have to help you with that question as I have no idea. You could ask the guy to take clearer pictures from every angle and try to match them to your cdi. Good luck and let us all know what the outcome was.  |
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07-29-2009, 3:28 AM
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Join Date: 07-22-2009 Location: indonesia
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| Re: Is it worth to try to rebuild a 'dead' CBR 400_NC23 Ok mate..for sure I'll reported every progress I've made till I ride this bike  |
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07-29-2009, 3:29 AM
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