what Fuel do you use ?

bladeracer · 08-17-2009, 5:20 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

BP ultimate unleaded 97ron = 47 mpg

bp 95ron unleaded = 45.4 mpg

Tesco's 95ron unleaded = 54.6 mpg

Sainsburys 95ron unleaded = 57.9 mpg

45-58mpg is a hell of a variance - is it all during similar riding and weather?

brendan · 08-17-2009, 5:35 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

i've been doing a lot or riding recently so i've now desided the i'm just going to get fuel when i need it at what ever garages is closest

so here's what i've been getting

BP ultimate unleaded 97ron = 47 mpg

bp 95ron unleaded = 45.4 mpg

Tesco's 95ron unleaded = 54.6 mpg

Sainsburys 95ron unleaded = 57.9 mpg

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

45-58mpg is a hell of a variance - is it all during similar riding and weather?

i know it is a big difrance in consupsion but it is on simaler riding

i've got texaco in the tank at the moment so after that i'm going to try Sainsbury's fuel again

bladeracer · 08-17-2009, 6:17 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

i know it is a big difrance in consupsion but it is on simaler riding

i've got texaco in the tank at the moment so after that i'm going to try Sainsbury's fuel again

Certainly is an interesting spread.
Does the bike feel any different on the different fuels?
We almost always buy from two BP's near us and occasionally a Shell station so our fuel doesn't vary much in quaility or mix.
The last tank of 98 I bought was last week at A$1.51 per litre (US$1.24) but it hasn't normally been that high recently.

brendan · 08-17-2009, 6:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

Certainly is an interesting spread.
Does the bike feel any different on the different fuels?
We almost always buy from two BP's near us and occasionally a Shell station so our fuel doesn't vary much in quaility or mix.
The last tank of 98 I bought was last week at A$1.51 per litre (US$1.24) but it hasn't normally been that high recently.

wall on the regular bp it fill slower and the bike seams to miss fires on it

i don't like bp fuel anyway as i've always got Sh*t mpg from it

i do like Shell thought and the bike dose run very wall on it and i think the acceleration is better on the V-power

but there's not that mean shell fuel stations around so i just started fuel when i need it at what every garages thats closest to me
Tesco's sale some 99 octane fuel so i'm going to give that a go soon

bladeracer · 08-17-2009, 6:58 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

wall on the regular bp it dose fill slower and the bike miss fires on it as wall

i don't like bp fuel anyway as i've always got pore mpg from it i do like Shell thought and the bike dose run very wall on it and i think the acceleration is better on the V-power but there's not that mean shell fuel stations around so i just started fuel when i need it so it could be any garages i get my fuel from

Tesco's sale some 99 octane fuel so i'm going to try that some when

I think you need to really edit that so we can understand it ;-)

brendan · 08-20-2009, 8:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

I think you need to really edit that so we can understand it ;-)

i did is that ok for you ??

setanta · 08-20-2009, 9:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

i've been doing a lot or riding recently so i've now desided the i'm just going to get fuel when i need it at what ever garages is closest

so here's what i've been getting

BP ultimate unleaded 97ron = 47 mpg

bp 95ron unleaded = 45.4 mpg

Tesco's 95ron unleaded = 54.6 mpg

Sainsburys 95ron unleaded = 57.9 mpg

Sorry but cant help thinking how anal that is

Surffrog · 08-20-2009, 9:23 AM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Sorry but cant help thinking how anal that is

Well thanks for adding that highly valuable piece of information, Set.

bladeracer · 08-20-2009, 9:26 AM

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Originally Posted by setanta

Sorry but cant help thinking how anal that is

I have always kept track of my mileage as it's a good indicator of potential engine problems.

LoopyLee · 08-20-2009, 2:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

I have always kept track of my mileage as it's a good indicator of potential engine problems.

I keep an eye on mine so I can budget my fuel allowence for work each month..

setanta · 08-20-2009, 2:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LoopyLee

I keep an eye on mine so I can budget my fuel allowence for work each month..

Now that I can understand totally, need to say no more on the others

brendan · 08-21-2009, 6:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

i've been doing a lot or riding recently so i've now desided the i'm just going to get fuel when i need it at what ever garages is closest

so here's what i've been getting

BP ultimate unleaded 97ron = 47 mpg

bp 95ron unleaded = 45.4 mpg

Tesco's 95ron unleaded = 54.6 mpg

Sainsburys 95ron unleaded = 57.9 mpg

Texaco 95ron unleaded = 49.4 mpg

Sainsburys 95ron unleaded = 53.9mpg

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

45-58mpg is a hell of a variance - is it all during similar riding and weather?

the 57.9 mpg was mainly motorway mileages

i've tried the Sainsburys fuel again on A roads and i got 53.9 mpg

i've now got there 97ron fuel in the bike to see what that dose

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Originally Posted by setanta

Sorry but cant help thinking how anal that is

LoL

so do you just put fuel in when it needs it and not even know what mileage you get from the tank

bladeracer · 08-21-2009, 6:53 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

LoL
so do you just put fuel in when it needs it and not even know what mileage you get from the tank

Yeah, with a bike you would pretty much have to deliberately try to avoid knowing what your mileage is :-)

setanta · 08-21-2009, 7:02 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

LoL

so do you just put fuel in when it needs it and not even know what mileage you get from the tank

Couldnt give a monkies tbh, I have a general idea how much I get to the tank (130 to tank riding dependant) thats good enough for me. CHecking for .5 .3 .4 absolutely baffles me. I have a 1ltr bike that goes from 50mpg to 7ishmpg depending on my wrist, also theres a little gadget on the dial that tells me how much Im using and how much is left before I need to fill up again.

brendan · 08-27-2009, 1:58 PM

update

Esso 95ron unleaded = 52.9mpg

Shel V-power 98ron unleaded = 53.9 mpg

Nitro · 10-15-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by brendan

I don't know

but mine Loves the high octane fuel (97/98RON)

yesterday i got 213km's to 12.6 litres = 47.9MPG

Hi Brendan,

surprisingly low....I usually got min 280km on the 98RON from Exxon Mobil before I have to turn reserve...I think mayb because our speed limits are at max 90km/hr...

Anywayz I just changed from RON 95 to 98 1 tank and Im not sure whether it is the cause of my irregular idling...haha... sometimes I start the bike in the morning and even after maintaing throttle for 5 min it will die of...rpm was set at 1.2 -1.3 when warm...

Nitro · 10-15-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Twincam

107.9 Per Litre!

Down here we have wars to see who can stay under a pound! Morrisons and Asda started off the war, Sainsburys followed but Tescos are not really getting the hang of the whole thing

I run standard unleaded/regular (Tried a higher octane one once but she started pinking*)

Every little helps

* Detonation (Pinking)

Pinking usually occurs when ignition timing is over advanced or when the octane number of the fuel is inadequate for the engine. The octane requirement of the engine will increase over time due to carbon and deposit buildup in the combustion chamber. The octane requirement normally varies cyclically as the combustion chamber deposits build up and then flake off. This is why many cars stop pinking after a high speed/high load run.

Hi Twin,

is pinking like the sound of a gunshot or backfire they call it that comes out of the exhausts?? if you can elaborate more, it would be great...

JohnnySpeed954 · 10-15-2009, 10:33 AM

I used to run regular in my 03' 954 ..... I later made several mods and had the bike dyno tuned on high test 93. Since then if I run anything other then high test it pings and runs rough.

bladeracer · 10-15-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitro

Hi Twin,

is pinking like the sound of a gunshot or backfire they call it that comes out of the exhausts?? if you can elaborate more, it would be great...

No, that's backfiring.
Pinking is a rattly sound like pebbles in an aluminium can.
Often evident when you try to accelerate hard from very low RPM in too high a gear.

jazzy · 10-15-2009, 1:07 PM

95ron in mine, although if i use 98ron it 'pinks' or 'pings' as some say. Mileage wise, light comes on...put fuel in. If I ride it like an old lady I get 190kms otherwise, well lets just say its a LOT less

Nitro · 10-16-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

No, that's backfiring.
Pinking is a rattly sound like pebbles in an aluminium can.
Often evident when you try to accelerate hard from very low RPM in too high a gear.

I somehow got the idea of what it is...Nevertheless I'll try look in youtube for a video...thanks for the elaboration blade..

Nitro · 10-16-2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

No, that's backfiring.
Pinking is a rattly sound like pebbles in an aluminium can.
Often evident when you try to accelerate hard from very low RPM in too high a gear.

Hi Everyone,

check out this link I think this is the sound that you all are referring to..

YouTube - Matts engine making odd sound

bladeracer · 10-16-2009, 2:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitro

Hi Everyone,

check out this link I think this is the sound that you all are referring to..

YouTube - Matts engine making odd sound

Nope, that noise is hydraulic lifters pumped dry.

bladeracer · 10-16-2009, 2:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitro

Hi Everyone,

check out this link I think this is the sound that you all are referring to..

YouTube - Matts engine making odd sound

I couldn't see any videos there of actual pinking.
These guys have a recording through their software but I'm not sure the pinking is obvious to an ear that doesn't know what it's listening for.

Wolf Engine Management - Engine Knock Detection and Knock Sensor Kits

Nitro · 10-16-2009, 3:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

I couldn't see any videos there of actual pinking.
These guys have a recording through their software but I'm not sure the pinking is obvious to an ear that doesn't know what it's listening for.

Wolf Engine Management - Engine Knock Detection and Knock Sensor Kits

haha cant hear anything due to lack of experience...anyways if anyone has got pinking going on at the moment can just take a short video...and post...thanks

bladeracer · 10-16-2009, 5:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitro

haha cant hear anything due to lack of experience...anyways if anyone has got pinking going on at the moment can just take a short video...and post...thanks

One of my cars pinks on low-octane fuel but we just filled it with 98 and it won't do it on 98 at all. I tried just now to make it happen with no luck.
If you get an aluminium Coke can and drop some small pebbles in and shake it around that's the sound you're listening for, but many people don't hear it over the normal engine noise even when it's really bad.

On The Road · 10-18-2009, 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Surffrog

I used the same for my NC29 and I'm still using it for my ZX10r Kawasaki. It's the best stuff available here in Thailand.

Sorry I can't help on the size of tank for the NC23. I've never owned one.

95 Benzene wherever I can get it in Thailand...
95 Gasohol if I can't avoid it.

Surffrog · 10-19-2009, 6:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bladeracer

One of my cars pinks on low-octane fuel but we just filled it with 98 and it won't do it on 98 at all. I tried just now to make it happen with no luck.
If you get an aluminium Coke can and drop some small pebbles in and shake it around that's the sound you're listening for, but many people don't hear it over the normal engine noise even when it's really bad.

Pretty good description if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by On The Road

95 Benzene wherever I can get it in Thailand...
95 Gasohol if I can't avoid it.

Except I really wouldn't use gasohol on a 400 CBR. Not no way, no how. It wrecks the carb rubbers, fuel pumps and hoses. When I couldn't get 95 benzene I used 91 benzene. The '04 Kawasaki is a different ball game but even then it would only be a last resort and I wouldn't leave it in there.