Honda Cruisers: Discussion of the Honda Rebel, Honda Shadow, and Honda VTX Motorcycles.
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08-11-2006, 1:04 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 4 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 34
| 1984 V30 Magna Anyone know anything about these things? I just picked one up for a winter project. It's in pieces, so at this point it doesn't run and I don't know any of its history. If nothing more, it'll be a learning experience  |
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08-11-2006, 1:21 PM
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#2 | | Blow me.
Join Date: 05-23-2004 Location: Omnipresent
Bike(s): 998RR4 Age: 26 Posts: 11,500
Rep Power: 32
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Cams could be a problem.
Sure it isn't a V45 or V65? I haven't heard of a V30. |
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08-11-2006, 1:30 PM
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#3 | | Mr. Brownstone
Join Date: 02-07-2002 Location: UT
Bike(s): 05 600RR Posts: 10,531
Rep Power: 35
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna I don't understand. |
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08-11-2006, 1:47 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 4 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 34
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by phobiaphobe Cams could be a problem.
Sure it isn't a V45 or V65? I haven't heard of a V30. | It's a V30 for sure. I think they only made them one year. |
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08-11-2006, 1:48 PM
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#5 | | Blow me.
Join Date: 05-23-2004 Location: Omnipresent
Bike(s): 998RR4 Age: 26 Posts: 11,500
Rep Power: 32
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna what displacement? |
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08-11-2006, 2:01 PM
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Join Date: 06-10-2004 Location: MI
Bike(s): Enough for now Posts: 1,279
Rep Power: 7
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by phobiaphobe what displacement? | The 500? I guess I missed they did one off of the baby-intercepter motor. Cool.  Should be a fun project.
As mentioned those years had some issues with lubing the cams correctly.
Here is a good source of info, though mostly V45 based. Motorcycling -- The Honda V4 Files and More http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~rblander/V4_info.html
many other sites have good information too. |
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08-11-2006, 2:02 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 4 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 34
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by phobiaphobe what displacement? |
500cc |
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08-11-2006, 4:22 PM
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Join Date: 05-29-2001 Location: New Jersey
Bike(s): '99 VFR, '06 Warrior Age: 46 Posts: 1,384
Rep:  (75) Rep Power: 8
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by BDA116 I don't understand. |  Maybe he's just decided to putter around on cruisers. |
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08-11-2006, 4:24 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 4 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 34
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by BDA116 I don't understand. | Quote:
Originally Posted by HondaGal  Maybe he's just decided to putter around on cruisers. | Nope, just wanted to rebuild so I can have something to fiddle with this winter. It'll go up for sale in the spring. |
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08-11-2006, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: 01-27-2003 Location: Rosamond, CA
Bike(s): YAMAHA R-1, WR450F Age: 43 Posts: 5,397
Rep Power: 16
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Do a search for Super Magna Owners Group . Place was just awesome for information.
Miss my magna sometimes.  |
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08-11-2006, 10:14 PM
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#11 | | Blow me.
Join Date: 05-23-2004 Location: Omnipresent
Bike(s): 998RR4 Age: 26 Posts: 11,500
Rep Power: 32
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna |
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08-12-2006, 5:40 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 4 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 34
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Well, I picked it up today. Having bought it without ever seeing it I was a little nervous, but I came away a little relieved. Don't get me wrong, the thing needs a lot of work. Fork seals are gone, rear shocks need a rebuild as well, needs tires, chain, brakes, carbs are in pieces, seat is torn. The nice thing is all the major pieces are there. Most surprising discovery was that it only has 2100 miles on it  Still has the original tires, and probably the original oil in it. Time to go looking for a service manual  |
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08-12-2006, 7:10 PM
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Join Date: 05-26-2001 Location: Concord, NH, USA
Bike(s): 2001 929 Age: 32 Posts: 4,717
Rep Power: 19
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna They're awesome little cruisers and actually have a big following. You should be able to seel it fairly easily when you get it back together...
...speaking of.... Have fun with those carbs.  |
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08-12-2006, 7:13 PM
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Join Date: 07-07-2002 Location: Cleveland
Bike(s): '84 Magna V30 Age: 4 Posts: 16,528
Rep Power: 34
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13 They're awesome little cruisers and actually have a big following. You should be able to seel it fairly easily when you get it back together...
...speaking of.... Have fun with those carbs.  | The only part of the whole thing that scares me...the carbs  Is there an idiots guide somewhere? |
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08-12-2006, 11:14 PM
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Join Date: 05-26-2001 Location: Concord, NH, USA
Bike(s): 2001 929 Age: 32 Posts: 4,717
Rep Power: 19
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by ND4SPD The only part of the whole thing that scares me...the carbs  Is there an idiots guide somewhere? |
Not really. You should see the looks on the faces of our mechanics when we get a Magna in that needs a carb clean.  You should also hear them when they're working on em... "    "  |
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08-13-2006, 3:52 PM
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Join Date: 07-11-2004 Location: Here
Bike(s): A few Posts: 1,000
Rep Power: 11
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna V4 carb removal and installation is bad enough even with a straight shot (removing them straight up and off the bike). The Magna carbs have to be lifted up then slid out the side. Other than the carbs, the rest of the bike should be pretty straightforward to work on. |
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09-05-2006, 6:48 PM
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#17 | | MSF/CMSP
Join Date: 06-15-2006 Location: Southern California
Bike(s): CBR1k, V45 & V65 Magna, KLR, KLX, Mojave Posts: 330
Rep:  (63) Rep Power: 2
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01-21-2007, 6:53 PM
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Join Date: 12-11-2006 Location: Long Island NY
Bike(s): 05 CBR1000RR, Supercharged V65 Magna Posts: 24
Rep:  (14) Rep Power: 0
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna great bike. only 500cc's, but still lots of fun.
i have a V65 Magna (1100) with an Eaton M62 supercharger installed, and Megasquirt Fuel Injection in progress. |
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01-21-2007, 7:24 PM
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#19 | | Doorbell broke, please sound fog horn!
Join Date: 09-02-2006 Location: lee county, FL
Bike(s): 06 FJR1300 Posts: 1,242
Rep Power: 6
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by ND4SPD The only part of the whole thing that scares me...the carbs  Is there an idiots guide somewhere? | 4 carbs scare you?
How about 6 on the Valkyrie!  |
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01-25-2007, 10:12 AM
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Join Date: 06-10-2004 Location: MI
Bike(s): Enough for now Posts: 1,279
Rep Power: 7
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna Quote:
Originally Posted by leelover 4 carbs scare you?
How about 6 on the Valkyrie!  | The carbs them selves aren't the problem. Fitting them onto their little rubber boots in the V (as a unit of 4 carbs) is the problem. Very difficult to get everything to pull off, and can take a long time to get back on, especially if you can't work straight down, don't know the "tricks", or the rubber is stiff. Once out they work just like any other carb. I've actually used crowbars to get them off.  |
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01-25-2007, 10:54 AM
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Join Date: 12-11-2006 Location: Long Island NY
Bike(s): 05 CBR1000RR, Supercharged V65 Magna Posts: 24
Rep:  (14) Rep Power: 0
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna with new boots and a little practice, it's a piece of cake. i can have a rack out and back in in 45 minutes, start to finish.
a few tricks :
-as soon as you have the carbs free from the boots, slide the rack just about all the way out the left side of the bike. supporting the rack, use a 90* screwdriver to remove the throttle cable bracket (not the individual cables) from the #1 carb body
-if you don't know how old the carb boots are, just save yourself the trouble by cutting the old ones off and buying new ones. even if you do get the old hard brittle ones installed, they will leak and cause headaches
-just before you're ready to install, boil the boots in water for about 10 minutes. makes them soft and super pliable.
-install the boots fully on the rear head, and at a 15* angle (facing aft) on the front head. insert the carbs fully into the rear boots, then push the front down while sweeping around the top of the boot with a small regular screwdriver. they'll drop right in. a little silicone spray works wonders.
-excessive force is not necessary. best case, you'll crush/tear a boot. worst case, you'll crack the airbox or a carb body.
some tips for the bike in general:
-locate the stator connector. it's a 3-prong plug on the 3 yellow wires coming from the stator. cut this connector out, splice in an extra 6-8" of heavy wire, solder, heatshrink. this connector is prone to melting.
-the V30 responds very well to gearing (short gearing)
-use a high quality oil and change it often. avoid extended periods of idling.
it's a Magna, not a Sabre, so keep it clean and shiny  |
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08-12-2007, 4:11 PM
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Join Date: 08-12-2007 Location: Blackburn
Bike(s): minted honda v30 magna(500cc)1984 Posts: 4
Rep:  (10) Rep Power: 0
| Re: 1984 V30 Magna WHAT DO YOU NEED TO KNOW |
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08-12-2007, 4:15 PM
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