1984 V30 Magna

ND4SPD · 08-11-2006, 2:04 PM

Anyone know anything about these things? I just picked one up for a winter project. It's in pieces, so at this point it doesn't run and I don't know any of its history. If nothing more, it'll be a learning experience

phobiaphobe · 08-11-2006, 2:21 PM

Cams could be a problem.

Sure it isn't a V45 or V65? I haven't heard of a V30.

BDA116 · 08-11-2006, 2:30 PM

I don't understand.

ND4SPD · 08-11-2006, 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Cams could be a problem.

Sure it isn't a V45 or V65? I haven't heard of a V30.

It's a V30 for sure. I think they only made them one year.

phobiaphobe · 08-11-2006, 2:48 PM

what displacement?

gt702 · 08-11-2006, 3:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

what displacement?

The 500? I guess I missed they did one off of the baby-intercepter motor. Cool.

Should be a fun project.

As mentioned those years had some issues with lubing the cams correctly.

Here is a good source of info, though mostly V45 based.
Motorcycling -- The Honda V4 Files and More
http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~rblander/V4_info.html

many other sites have good information too.

ND4SPD · 08-11-2006, 3:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

what displacement?

500cc

HondaGal · 08-11-2006, 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

I don't understand.

Maybe he's just decided to putter around on cruisers.

ND4SPD · 08-11-2006, 5:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BDA116

I don't understand.

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Originally Posted by HondaGal

Maybe he's just decided to putter around on cruisers.

Nope, just wanted to rebuild so I can have something to fiddle with this winter. It'll go up for sale in the spring.

Mojave954 · 08-11-2006, 11:13 PM

Do a search for Super Magna Owners Group . Place was just awesome for information.

Miss my magna sometimes.

phobiaphobe · 08-11-2006, 11:14 PM

The Compleat® SabMag Links

ND4SPD · 08-12-2006, 6:40 PM

Well, I picked it up today. Having bought it without ever seeing it I was a little nervous, but I came away a little relieved. Don't get me wrong, the thing needs a lot of work. Fork seals are gone, rear shocks need a rebuild as well, needs tires, chain, brakes, carbs are in pieces, seat is torn. The nice thing is all the major pieces are there. Most surprising discovery was that it only has 2100 miles on it

Still has the original tires, and probably the original oil in it. Time to go looking for a service manual

nhfirefighter13 · 08-12-2006, 8:10 PM

They're awesome little cruisers and actually have a big following. You should be able to seel it fairly easily when you get it back together...

...speaking of.... Have fun with those carbs.

ND4SPD · 08-12-2006, 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nhfirefighter13

They're awesome little cruisers and actually have a big following. You should be able to seel it fairly easily when you get it back together...

...speaking of.... Have fun with those carbs.

The only part of the whole thing that scares me...the carbs

Is there an idiots guide somewhere?

nhfirefighter13 · 08-13-2006, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

The only part of the whole thing that scares me...the carbs

Is there an idiots guide somewhere?

Not really. You should see the looks on the faces of our mechanics when we get a Magna in that needs a carb clean.

You should also hear them when they're working on em... "

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evl_twn · 08-13-2006, 4:52 PM

V4 carb removal and installation is bad enough even with a straight shot (removing them straight up and off the bike). The Magna carbs have to be lifted up then slid out the side. Other than the carbs, the rest of the bike should be pretty straightforward to work on.

MSGT-R · 09-05-2006, 7:48 PM

This ought to keep you busy for awhile...
DODGE RACING PRODUCTS
Eric's Magna Home Page !!
Holeshot Performance Products, Inc.
Honda Sabre, Magna, Interceptor BBS (Powered by Invision Power Board)
The SabMag High-Tech & Customization Page
Motorcycle Parts - For Vintage & Classic Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha & Suzuki - Old Bike Barn
SMSoCal2006
The Compleat® SabMag Links
Western Hills Honda
All sites with V4 goodies in them.

Been there, done that, own two V4 Magnas:
1983 V45
1984 V65
All basically the same motor with slightly different specs.

C420sailor · 01-21-2007, 7:53 PM

great bike. only 500cc's, but still lots of fun.

i have a V65 Magna (1100) with an Eaton M62 supercharger installed, and Megasquirt Fuel Injection in progress.

leelover · 01-21-2007, 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

The only part of the whole thing that scares me...the carbs

Is there an idiots guide somewhere?

4 carbs scare you?
How about 6 on the Valkyrie!

gt702 · 01-25-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by leelover

4 carbs scare you?
How about 6 on the Valkyrie!

The carbs them selves aren't the problem. Fitting them onto their little rubber boots in the V (as a unit of 4 carbs) is the problem. Very difficult to get everything to pull off, and can take a long time to get back on, especially if you can't work straight down, don't know the "tricks", or the rubber is stiff. Once out they work just like any other carb. I've actually used crowbars to get them off.

C420sailor · 01-25-2007, 11:54 AM

with new boots and a little practice, it's a piece of cake. i can have a rack out and back in in 45 minutes, start to finish.

a few tricks :

-as soon as you have the carbs free from the boots, slide the rack just about all the way out the left side of the bike. supporting the rack, use a 90* screwdriver to remove the throttle cable bracket (not the individual cables) from the #1 carb body

-if you don't know how old the carb boots are, just save yourself the trouble by cutting the old ones off and buying new ones. even if you do get the old hard brittle ones installed, they will leak and cause headaches

-just before you're ready to install, boil the boots in water for about 10 minutes. makes them soft and super pliable.

-install the boots fully on the rear head, and at a 15* angle (facing aft) on the front head. insert the carbs fully into the rear boots, then push the front down while sweeping around the top of the boot with a small regular screwdriver. they'll drop right in. a little silicone spray works wonders.

-excessive force is not necessary. best case, you'll crush/tear a boot. worst case, you'll crack the airbox or a carb body.

some tips for the bike in general:

-locate the stator connector. it's a 3-prong plug on the 3 yellow wires coming from the stator. cut this connector out, splice in an extra 6-8" of heavy wire, solder, heatshrink. this connector is prone to melting.

-the V30 responds very well to gearing (short gearing)

-use a high quality oil and change it often. avoid extended periods of idling.

it's a Magna, not a Sabre, so keep it clean and shiny

markduffy · 08-12-2007, 5:11 PM

WHAT DO YOU NEED TO KNOW

markduffy · 08-12-2007, 5:15 PM

I NEED A V30 MAGNA PDF MANUAL DOES ANYBODY HAVE ONE TO SEND TO ME

schnogg · 04-19-2008, 4:18 PM

I just recently came into possession of one of these. It looks pretty nice, but doesn't run like anything yet. I'm also having the worst time getting any information on it.

I took it to the salvage yard to match up some parts. We are lucky to have Slicks Cycle Salvage in Mason by the way. I got a new fuel pump, which wasn't functioning, but it still just starts up and dies. I think that I need a vacuum diagram for the carbs, but I haven't found one. If someone has a pdf manual or a place to buy a hard copy, I would welcome such information.

DanWar79 · 04-19-2008, 9:25 PM

Mines a 1984 Magna V30 (capacity 500cc, Californian import - apparently the V30 relates to 30 cubic inches of capacity) with nearly 40,000 miles on it - in which time rear original brake shoes were still fine for reinstallation on dismantlement and inspection last summer - these things will look after you if you look after it. The Magna V30 has been described to me as a chain driven V4 version of Honda Shadow with which it shares lots of parts. I've experienced higher than expected chain wear despite renewal of sprockets and suspect electrics to rear tail light (both problems also occured with 500cc Interceptor I once owned which were slightly more common round here - hopefully not pilot error!). I would agree with previous poster advising changing engine oil at high frequency with quality - easy maintenance job for avoidance of much grief.

cbreric · 07-14-2008, 10:05 AM

my father has an 85, its a pretty damn decent little bike. stock shocks make it ride like it is on a cloud, and progressive rear and front make it a lot more corner freindly and a bit more stiff. the 500 has a lot less issues with cam oiling from what I have heard and seen. check that front for brace for cracks, death wobbles happen when it breaks lol! and once you get it together try it out for a while, you may be surprised how well it pulls right around redline

pretty good for a little motor

Kevork · 08-13-2008, 2:17 AM

Maybe we can compare notes. Got an 45 I'm planning to learn about. Little different, but prolly similar enough to curse about together

Oh, and I found an online manual at *** for 15 bucks. Wouldn't be surprised if they have one for the V30 too.

philhne07 · 02-20-2009, 6:50 PM

i acquired a v30 this may with 19000 on it and got 6000 more untill my cams gave out due to oiling issues. they'll be replaced by spring as well as an oil modification