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Old 06-21-2004, 8:47 PM   #1
 
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bike wont hold a charge

I was running the bike today and it just died. Thought it was maybe the fuel, but when I tried to start it again, it just clicked.

Pushed it back home, put the charger to it, started it later, let it run, and it just died again. tried to start it and NOTHING. not even a click.

Then I put it back on the charger for a lil bit longer, started the bike and it chugged like it was miss firing and Died again.

So im not getting a charge. battery reads fine, Stator reads fine. Do ya think it could be the rectifier?

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Old 06-21-2004, 8:51 PM   #2
 
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

Yes it very well may be. R/R's last 20-40k depending on the use of a battery tender. At the age of your bike, that could very well be the culprit. In most owners manuals there is a process to test everything with a voltmeter.
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

Testing a battery with a voltmeter alone, is not accurate. You need to test the battery under load. Ther are devices that test batteries specificly. They might be a little pricey but it is a nice tool to have if you do a lot of work on your own vehicles. If you cannot afford this, try metering the battery when you try and start the bike. This puts a drain on the battery and might give a correct volt meter reading when under load.
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

well, i took the battery to autozone to get checked because I dont have the tool, and well like most places the tool was junk and couldnt read it under the load. but did read 13v which is because I fully charged the battery Before I took it in for testing. So I took the battery out and opened the DO NOT OPEN flap to only find out that people have to Fill the batteries before you install in the bike. well i got this bike with this battery and dont know much what dude did to it. I looked in the wells and noticed it was DRY!. nothing. no fluids at all, I mean I tilted it to see if something would come out and it didnt. So I went and got distilled water and filled the passages up and recapped. Im waiting on my 20 mins to recharge the battery again and see if that fixes the problem. I only have 9400 miles on my bike. being a 95 i know thats hard to believe but dude before me hardly rode it and was always on business.

Also on that note, I have a pinging noise in the motor. I know its hard to tell where at but its only during acceleration. which means wrong octane, poor fuel, wrong heat range plugs, or carbon build up in the combustion chamber.

Now I know 94 octane wouldnt hurt the bike, but ya think the higher octane would help break up that carbon that could be in there? I dont want to add that carbon build up cleaner that you put in the fuel for cars, I have no idea what that would do to a bike. lol

Just a thought.

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Re: bike wont hold a charge

Good luck on the battery. I wish I could help you on the pinging noise. Motorcycle engines are untraveled territory for myself. I am sure the smart people of the .org can help though.
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

wow thats weird..i have the same exact problem..when i ride my bike hard it seems to vharge the battery..i know this because my battery died..i push started it..took a half hour run on the highway and then went home..went out the next day and it started fine. The only time my battery dies if if im stuckin traffic for a long period of time..if i go fast its fine..if i go slow or idle for a long time then she dies. I would love to know if you found a solution to this problem. Im tired of having to push start my bike out in public..lol. by the way my bike is 96 900rr. Also the pinging noise you mentioned..i have that too..lol
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

my advice to the both of you would be to buy new batteries because you'll kill them by draining it and recharging all the time, if it dies after putting the new one in then go from there, try the rectifier like you said. as far as the pinging try a higher octane, that never hurts. I can't imagine the fuel system cleaner or carbon cleaner, whichever you're talking about hurting the bike, all that stuff is just meant to burn anyway and since a car and a bike both have internal combustion engines there can't be too much difference in how it burns what is put in it.
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hey just wondering if you came up with a solution to the charge problem.
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

sup everyone. Ive got almost the same problem. The bike will stay on fine and after a day of riding, if i turn the bike off it wont start up. And ive got a new battery that was tested and its fine. So what do you guys think? im gonna check my voltages today and also see if the charging system is workin and see if theres a draw. Any help would be good though.
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

wow..I thought it was just me. SAME PROBLEM.

The bike would not start after 24 hours. Even after a full day of riding. Then I would push start it and one day it died in traffic. Lucky I was at a red light and could safely roll it into a parking lot.

I figured...change the battery so I at least its not that....the bike runs perfect. I have let it sit for a week...7 days straight and it starts right up. It MUST OF BEEN the battery right? I dunno for sure...but so far my bike runs perfect since the new batt. So...
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

i bought a new battery and it happned again. But i had the battery tested and im not sure if the inital charge i got it with was low or not becasue it was one they had been charged fora while so im afraid to put it back in the bike till i get a chance to check the circuits but i hope its not my RR who knows lol thanx for responding though
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

Originally Posted by Archer CBR 900R
So I took the battery out and opened the DO NOT OPEN flap to only find out that people have to Fill the batteries before you install in the bike. well i got this bike with this battery and dont know much what dude did to it. I looked in the wells and noticed it was DRY!. nothing. no fluids at all, I mean I tilted it to see if something would come out and it didnt. So I went and got distilled water and filled the passages up and recapped.
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For future reference, you should never open the battery cover. Batteries are filled with sufuric acid, not distilled water - so you are potentially exposing yourself to a lot of danger when you open a battery. If it has run dry, the plates are probably contaminated and re-filling with acid wont help. There are places that can recycle dead batteries for you - not a DIY job IMO.
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

There is an excellent troubleshooting chart here that's much more helpful than the one in the manual. It helped me diagnose my bad stator when the factory manual's diagnostic procedure pointed to a bad R/R.
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Re: bike wont hold a charge

I had similar problem with my XX, and it was fixed by cleaning main fuse connection. Oxidized connections will not pass current only voltage. so that why you see good voltages with multimeter, but still your battery wont charge.
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