Sato rear brake switch.

jaim · 01-30-2005, 5:52 AM

I recently purchase some Sato rearsets. (Check out parts411 ) They have a pretty good price on their Sato rearsets. Give them a call. The listed price is not the price. Oh, I will post some pics when I get them installed.

Anyway, it came with a rear brake switch with appears to be activated by the brake hydraulic system. Does anyone have instructions on how to install this switch?

Also, I will be moving my footpeg higher from stock position but is moving the peg backward or forward usual better?

TIA

66droptop · 01-30-2005, 6:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jaim

I recently purchase some Sato rearsets. (Check out parts411 ) They have a pretty good price on their Sato rearsets. Give them a call. The listed price is not the price. Oh, I will post some pics when I get them installed.

Anyway, it came with a rear brake switch with appears to be activated by the brake hydraulic system. Does anyone have instructions on how to install this switch?

Also, I will be moving my footpeg higher from stock position but is moving the peg backward or forward usual better?

TIA

Can't help you on the wiring part. Electricity and I are like Palestinians and Israelis.

As for which is better: mounting them front or back? Comfort is what matters. Being as comfortable and as in harmony with your machine as possible is what will get you to ride quicker. More so than some very minor mechanical advantage you might be able to gain with forward or back mounting. Gauges are mounted in a racecar to allow for the greatest driver ease, not for what looks the coolest or some unnoticable gain like shaving 3 inches off of some wiring.

So just play with it and set it to be as comfortable as possible for you, your body, your riding style, and your personal preferences.

HondaGalToo · 01-30-2005, 1:53 PM

I adjusted mine about an inch up and an inch back from stock.

For the wiring, you replace the banjo bolt that's in there with the one you got with the wires sticking out of it. When you remove the stock rearsets you'll see a spring by or attached to the brake pedal. That spring is attached to a piece of plastic that's a kind of switch that slides back and forth, activating the brake light. Once you remove all that, you'll be left with 2 wires. Connect these wires to the wires coming out of the banjo bolt. Obviously, one wire to one, one to the other. It doesn't matter which one, there's no positive and negative. I used some regular Radio Shack electrical connectors. I wrapped them up with electrical tape after ensuring that they worked, and just tucked the extra back behind the swingarm, in a spot where it wouldn't rub or anything.

I bled the system out before doing this and then refilled it, but if you're careful you may not need to. Just cover everything to keep brake fluid off. Bleed the rear brake, make sure the light works, and you're good to go.

jaim · 01-30-2005, 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

I adjusted mine about an inch up and an inch back from stock.

For the wiring, you replace the banjo bolt that's in there with the one you got with the wires sticking out of it. When you remove the stock rearsets you'll see a spring by or attached to the brake pedal. That spring is attached to a piece of plastic that's a kind of switch that slides back and forth, activating the brake light. Once you remove all that, you'll be left with 2 wires. Connect these wires to the wires coming out of the banjo bolt. Obviously, one wire to one, one to the other. It doesn't matter which one, there's no positive and negative. I used some regular Radio Shack electrical connectors. I wrapped them up with electrical tape after ensuring that they worked, and just tucked the extra back behind the swingarm, in a spot where it wouldn't rub or anything.

I bled the system out before doing this and then refilled it, but if you're careful you may not need to. Just cover everything to keep brake fluid off. Bleed the rear brake, make sure the light works, and you're good to go.

Cool, thanks.

jaim · 01-31-2005, 1:39 AM

Holy crap. Just finished putting on the right side (brake side) Sato rear set. Talk about a project. It literally took me 5 hours to do the job. Granted I had to figure some stuff out since the instructions were next to nill. Thanks for the info on the brake light banjo bolt hookup HondaGalToo. But even with that cleared up it still took me a long time. I think maybe the thing that took the longest was bleeding the brake system after draining it. Thankfully it was still middle of the day when I found I didn't have a spring washer tool. So I had to go get one of those. Then deciding where I wanted the peg and brake lever. Sigh. Later this week some time I will tackle the left side (shifter side). I wonder what surprises await me. Actually when I started the install I figured both sides would take me about 5 hours. Was I wrong. When I get them both installed I will post some pics.

HondaGalToo · 01-31-2005, 6:13 AM

Yeah, it took me awhile too, as I recall, since there are no directions to speak of! What's a spring washer tool? I don't recall needing anything special?

Oh, and don't forget to use blue locktite on all bolts!!

jaim · 01-31-2005, 7:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HondaGalToo

Yeah, it took me awhile too, as I recall, since there are no directions to speak of! What's a spring washer tool? I don't recall needing anything special?

Oh, and don't forget to use blue locktite on all bolts!!

I am using locktite. What I am calling a spring washer is actually a snap ring. Hate those things. I have always needed a tool for getting those things on and off. So now I have one.

HondaGalToo · 01-31-2005, 8:54 PM

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I am using locktite. What I am calling a spring washer is actually a snap ring. Hate those things. I have always needed a tool for getting those things on and off. So now I have one.

Huh, I don't remember having to put any of those on mine, but maybe mine came more partially assembled than yours? Dunno. But I know what you mean about that tool. After years of fussing with those damned things, I finally purchased one of those tools also!

jaim · 02-01-2005, 4:30 AM

Worked on installing the left side (shifter side) rearset tonight. I have it installed but have a question. What is the best way to keep the shift bar assembly from working its way loose? Should I locktite the threaded shafts? Or is there a slicker way to make it stay put? And yes pictures are coming.

HondaGalToo · 02-01-2005, 6:17 AM

There's locknuts on the shifter assembly, but I think I put loctite on that, too. HG's fell off on the track once!

jaim · 02-01-2005, 5:41 PM

Yeah, there are lock nuts but the thread pitch and number of theads used on the threaded shafts are not very good for the nuts to hold. Just with a bit of shaking of the shift bar I can get them to lossen a little. I guess I will just have to locktite them. No biggie. Was wondering what others do to keep them from moving.

The Sook · 02-01-2005, 7:39 PM

Haha. It's funny that what takes you guys 5 hours to do, takes a mechanic about 1/2 hour. Haha Guess that comes with doing stuff like that all the time. But I'm sure you like them MORE now coz you did it yourself. Certain satisfaction that comes with that huh.

HondaGalToo · 02-01-2005, 7:58 PM

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Haha. It's funny that what takes you guys 5 hours to do, takes a mechanic about 1/2 hour. Haha Guess that comes with doing stuff like that all the time. But I'm sure you like them MORE now coz you did it yourself. Certain satisfaction that comes with that huh.

Ok, stop gloating!

I don't think it took me 5 hours per side. It did take longer than I thought, probably a few hours at least, because there were no directions and I wasn't sure how to hook up the brake light. If I had to install another set, or install some on a friend's bike, I'm sure it would take me 1/2 hour now! And, yes, there is a certain satisfaction in having done it myself, not to mention the $$$ saved by not taking it to the shop. Actually, my 929 hasn't been to the shop yet. I figure I'll have them do the valve adjustment, but that's about it!

CBRBob · 02-01-2005, 8:09 PM

Hmm, my Woodcrafts took about 10mins a side

jaim · 02-02-2005, 4:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sook

Haha. It's funny that what takes you guys 5 hours to do, takes a mechanic about 1/2 hour. Haha Guess that comes with doing stuff like that all the time. But I'm sure you like them MORE now coz you did it yourself. Certain satisfaction that comes with that huh.

And if a mechanic had to rebuild a server from scratch he would give up and call me.

If I had to do it again I could definitely cut the time down significantly. The shifter side took about 1/2 hour and most of that time was spent adjusting the shift lever height. As HondaGalToo has pointed out there really are no instructions. A couple of pictures and a parts list. And I was not expecting to take apart the rear master cylinder as part of the install. But now I know and am that much wiser.