[.OrgOwner]

If it goes to a V4 is it not still a CBR?

[Quick 26]

no. the cb designator is supose to be a designator for the in-line 4 motor

[ace929]

In Tests How did they rate the GSXR 1000 to the Cbr1000 in terms of horsepower? Cause the Cbr has a lower rate of compression. Does the CBR make up for the compression loss somewhere else?

[.OrgOwner]

There is a new CBR 1000RR for 2008... patents have been submitted for a road-going chassis based upon the RC211V MotoGP bike and a road version of the V5 engine. The new flagship honda being the new CBR1000RR will sport a V4 engine with motoGP technology and a limited edition production run with the V5 engine. The new CBR1000RR will also be homologated as a WSBK racer....

Just found this on another thread, don't know how much is fact or fiction..

[MentalFacility]

damn i wish there was more info. Im actually saving up for a 2008 model, but if it turns out not so well, then i might get something else. All this TCS and ABS and V4 is good, but wouldnt that rocket up the price?

[ace929]

I guess we will have to go somewhere else for information??

[PartsGenius]

Originally Posted by Fastrr

Yeah that has to be a bad Photoshop job.

Honda needs to get away from underseat exhaust systems.. nothing good about them.. they add an extra 2 feet of exhaust piping and serve only to heat up the riders back side.

You know you gotta expect Honda IS going to follow yamaha's design of the small side exhaust can. It's an effective way to drop weight and clean up the bikes' overall appearance.

Don't care-it's still butt ugly! And what are you really gaining in weight savings-2 or 3 pounds? Don't see it making that nuch difference. Lower center of gravity? Guess that's true, but again-in real world terms-is the average rider going to notice?

[VFRLuke]

all I'm worried about is the trunk. I would hate to get rid of my 954 just for lack of any trunk what so ever. I hope the new blade doesn't have the undertail and a V-4 would be icing on the cake.

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by Red Rider

From Motociclismo

Artist rendition. Honda won’t go with Suzuki pipes.

To answer the question of the new site owner, it will be all new. So everything will get changed. Honda typically has a 4-year cycle with a makeover for the third year. The bike was new in 2004, the makeover in 2006. That means 2008 is all new.

[lanbrown]

Originally Posted by .OrgOwner

Just found this on another thread, don't know how much is fact or fiction..

Fiction. You can’t patent a V5 engine. Honda was not the first to go with that configuration. You can patent technology that is in it though. They won’t go with a V4 either. It will be cost prohibitive and add weight. It will continue to be an inline-4. I’m sure it will have some MotoGP technology in it like previous versions have.

[Stevo from Oz]

This from the latest Australian Motorcycle News;

"A new Fireblade is expected from Honda this year and its extremely likely that it will be a V4 as it seeks to get the upper hand in the battle against 1200cc twins in Superbike Racing.
With looks akin to the offspring of the current Fireblade and a RC212V MotoGP machine, the new 'Blade will be the first mass production V4 superbike since the Honda RC45.
AMCN sources have said that the new "Blade will receive a completely new exhaust system, which will see it hidden in the belly pan. Similar to the Hornet 600, the new exhaust is likely to snake back and forth under the engine with the outlet just in front of the rear wheel.
It is also tipped that Honda will release an up spec version that will serve as a more competitive template for Superstock racing as well as a homologation model for world superbike.

The up spec machine will have top of the line chassis components and exotic materials and components-like carbon fibre bodywork, magnesium engine covers, lightweight internals and a close ration gearbox".

Interesting stuff and I'm sure there will be lots of speculation until something firm is announced! I for one, am up for an upgrade this year and will be watching the release very closely as to whether I stay on a Honda or not. So far, 50/50.

Stevo

[2woody]

Go Stevo good to see some aussie imput,and may I add updated info on the newest BLADE......I'm excited!!!!

[CbrRydah]

I hope the actual release looks better than the artist's rendition. The bodywork of the '06-'07 bike looks MUCH better than the artist's mental image. Not sure how I feel about the stubby exhaust. I think its ugly, but it could grow on me, so I don't wanna count it out. (Note: I still think the 'Busa is the ugliest pig-snout-looking thing to ever gather a following. In fact, it would be the ugliest bike PERIOD, if it weren't for the ZX-14 taking its title!) So, we'll see. One more thing... I hope they offer it in some form of yellow other than "canary".

[jackhammer]

Originally Posted by .OrgOwner

Just found this on another thread, don't know how much is fact or fiction..

V5!!!!!!! pure fiction

[deezak]

I hope they follow the slipper clutch trend...

[.OrgOwner]

The other information I have been reading goes along the lines of "significant weight reduction"

[bumble blade]

last week in our local mcn rag they showed a picture of what was supposed to be the 08 fireblade. they claim it will use roughly the same engine not the v4. the exhaust will exit from the belly pan to centralize the weight.
there will be traction control similar to the one used on jt bike in wsb racing.
bike looked good but it was only inside info.nothing confirmed.

[.OrgOwner]

if these exhaust patents are "real" then the 2008 cbr1000 will not be a V4. Looks like the undertail is history......

[Phadreus]

Originally Posted by .OrgOwner

if these exhaust patents are "real" then the 2008 cbr1000 will not be a V4. Looks like the undertail is history......

Is it me, or does that bike in the patent picture look and awefull lot like a 954? Do you think they used that picture because the 954 is the archetype for performance bikes or just because it's the best sportbike ever built? Tough to say...

[.OrgOwner]

From what I have read your correct - they used the 954 for the purpose of illustration only.

[DUX]

They'll move the exhaust, change the colors, maybe add a slipper and some kind of selectable mapping like the Suzuki (although I'd LOVE to see TC.)

If you want to see what it will look like, just go to the Honda website and look at the 2007 CBR600.

[gg2wheel4me]

Definately will be changes. Look at the new R-1 (ecm,ycct glitches
not withstanding) and the new GSXR1K. Those are cutting edge openbikes.
While the current 1kRR is a terrific bike, and I may be about to replace my
VFR (just sold today) with another RR, would be my 4th. The house of
Soichiro needs an open bike the likes of the 07 600. Ive been tempted
by that new Gixxer. If you don't want to buy one, dont sit on
one. Down right comfy. All Im gonna say.

C'mon big red, I need a bike!

Will be interesting to see what they do with the VFR too..

[lanbrown]

I still think that Honda will continue with the underseat exhaust. The belly pan exhaust is Suzukish. The Honda Hornet does have that exhaust though. With the 600RR new for this year, Honda kept the undertail.; it will be around for 3 more years.

[slickwill]

Originally Posted by lanbrown

I still think that Honda will continue with the underseat exhaust. The belly pan exhaust is Suzukish. The Honda Horney does have that exhaust though. With the 600RR new for this year, Honda kept the undertail.; it will be around for 3 more years.

I think they will keep it but I wish they would get rid of it. Like the others said it uses a lot of extra tubing and leaves no room for a trunk. I like the small GP style exhaust. I would also like to see the V-4 but don't think it will happen. I think that just to keep up with the others they will have to put a slipper clutch on it, maybe traction control, and separate high and low speed compression on the suspension, maybe adjustable ride height on the shock.


Anyway we should know in a couple months or so and then we can all stop guessing and then start talking about what we like and don't like about it for real.

[Dr DRFT]

seriously I dont know what the big fascination with a slipper is......

I bought into the hype and bought one for my 2006 1000rr and paid like 1500Aus for it....

But after I got it installed I was like .. whats the big deal... cause when I come in hot, my hand just feathers the clutch without me thinking anyway...so my hand does the job of a slipper....

The only reason peps want them is cause all the other companies have them...

In all honesty I reckon that with all the extra gizmos it make for a lazy if not worse rider..cause if it ever failed, the rider would not know what to do...

[Phadreus]

Originally Posted by Dr DRFT

seriously I dont know what the big fascination with a slipper is......

I bought into the hype and bought one for my 2006 1000rr and paid like 1500Aus for it....

But after I got it installed I was like .. whats the big deal... cause when I come in hot, my hand just feathers the clutch without me thinking anyway...so my hand does the job of a slipper....

The only reason peps want them is cause all the other companies have them...

In all honesty I reckon that with all the extra gizmos it make for a lazy if not worse rider..cause if it ever failed, the rider would not know what to do...

Freddie Spenser was just talking about this on one of the last SBK Racers. His comment was that as the control systems on the bikes evolve, the bike becomes more forgiving and requires less finesse and precise control inputs from the riders. Roger Hayden made the same type of comment regarding the GP bikes, where he would go wide open throttle in the middle of the corner and could not do that on his SBK or he would end up on his head.

So on one hand, these things like traction control, slipper clutch, ABS an so on makes the bikes easier to ride and more safe for the less experienced rider, but on the other hand, the more experienced rider looses some connection to the bike. I guess the question is "which is the greater good for the masses"?

[lanbrown]

A slipper clutch is old technology and are not found on GP bikes.