2008 Fireblade

06CBR1KMFNRR · 08-06-2007, 3:31 PM

I like the fact that I don't have to replace my pipe everytime I crash!

06CBR1KMFNRR · 08-06-2007, 3:45 PM

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And it stopped being a fireblade when the engine went to 1000cc.
Last of the proper blades was a 954

That's twice I've heard that on this forum. Anyone care to qualify it? I'm by no means the resident expert when it comes to Hondas. I'm just curious if there is any validity to the claim or if it's more rhetorical nonsense in the urinary olympics.

If it is valid Honda obviously didn't get the memo, because they keep puting Fireblade stickers on the plastic. Maybe they're just leftovers from '03.

Phadreus · 08-06-2007, 3:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 06CBR1KMFNRR

That's twice I've heard that on this forum. Anyone care to qualify it? I'm by no means the resident expert when it comes to Hondas. I'm just curious if there is any validity to the claim or if it's more rhetorical nonsense in the urinary olympics.

If it is valid Honda obviously didn't get the memo, because they keep puting Fireblade stickers on the plastic. Maybe they're just leftovers from '03.

It's just semantical word games to get hung up on. My CBR954 doesn’t even say Fireblade anywhere on it, that name is not used in the US by Honda. Is mine a "true" Fireblade? Eh, who cares, it put's a smile on my face, call it what ever you like.

bettingpython · 08-06-2007, 3:57 PM

Babba Tadeo was the engineer who first sought to decrease the weight of the motorcycle while other manufacturers were increasing it along with displacement. His design aim was to create the fastest handling lightest weght litre class displacement bike on the market. At one point in time the Gixxer 1100 weighed in somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 pounds. A friend of mine used to ride one and that was his greatest complaint about it.

Babba did not design the 1000 and the additional 46cc displacement actually came with a signifigant weight increase. The 1000's are are actually quite portly in comparison to the 954.

I hope Honda returns to it's aim of having the best handling big bore bike with the 2008 superbike roll out.

silver1 · 08-06-2007, 4:00 PM

Honda Fireblade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maholli · 08-06-2007, 7:02 PM

The 1000RR is still a fireblade.. Having grown up with my family owning a Honda Motorcycle dealership. I have had the lucky chance of having just about every honda sportbike.. they all are great bikes but my 2007 RR is the best one yet.. Im sure the 08 will be just awsome.. the 07 RR is only 18lbs heavier compared to the 03 954 and is a much better bike in every way, and compared to all the 07 1000's the honda RR is the lightest of the group..
Kaw-451.5
Honda 450.0
Yam 459.0
Suz 465.5

07Repsol · 08-06-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nedro

Underseat exhaust are for style only and add wieght on inline fours. The sooner they're gone, the better.

I live in Seattle, it's generally cold and cloudy here so I'll take any extra heat I can get and especially that generated by the underseat exhaust. Frankly, I prefer the exhaust underseat...sick and tired of those little annoying burns from pipes. Different strokes...

vin · 08-06-2007, 11:51 PM

I have an 06 Busa right now. I love my bike for the long haul and it doesn't do too bad in the twisties either. I can generally keep up with most of the 1K'ers in the canyons, but when I'm up against seasoned track riders... I'm hosed. Later this year I will be purchasing a dedicated canyon carver. I just haven't decided on one yet... waiting to see what Honda offers for their CBR1000RR upgrade. I believe I have it narrowed down to the CBR1K or the the ZX10. Although I did hear that the ZX10 can get kinda squirly coming back to two wheels.

vin · 08-06-2007, 11:57 PM

If the 08 CBR looks anything like the one at the top of the first page of this topic... I'm sold. I will be selling the fridge, the dishwasher, and the kitchen table to get it...

scud · 08-07-2007, 7:29 AM

i definately hope that honda goes to a v4 for the fireblade, it would make upgrading to a newer blade, even more exciting for me

.OrgOwner · 08-07-2007, 7:49 AM

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Originally Posted by scud

i definately hope that honda goes to a v4 for the fireblade, it would make upgrading to a newer blade, even more exciting for me

Looking at the exhaust patent drawings in this thread would suggest you might be out of luck.

scud · 08-07-2007, 7:55 AM

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Originally Posted by .OrgOwner

Looking at the exhaust patent drawings in this thread would suggest you might be out of luck.

never mind, its still exciting

bettingpython · 08-07-2007, 11:38 AM

I will be glad to see the end of the undertail personally.
Aesthetically it is not pleasing to me.

06CBR1KMFNRR · 08-07-2007, 12:25 PM

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I hope Honda returns to it's aim of having the best handling big bore bike with the 2008 superbike roll out.

Seeing as how I have never ridden a 900-954, I have no frame of reference for the older Honda's. I will say that everyone I know said even the '04-'05 1KRR had the lightest handling in the class, generally attributed to mass centralization. I can say that coming from an '05 ZX10R, my 1KRR feels like a 600. I guess I'm saying I didn't know Honda ever abandoned it's goal of building the best handling liter bike.

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Honda Fireblade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good info.

slickwill · 08-07-2007, 12:30 PM

The argument is just that all previous "fireblades" were designed or influenced by Babba Tadeo and the 1KRR has none of his influence. I don't think anyone is arguing the capabilities of the current bike, just the history behind all of the others.

06CBR1KMFNRR · 08-07-2007, 12:41 PM

I'm interested to see how many people feel that the 1KRR doesn't rate the name. Any chance we could get that as a pole for the forum?

.OrgOwner · 08-07-2007, 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 06CBR1KMFNRR

I'm interested to see how many people feel that the 1KRR doesn't rate the name. Any chance we could get that as a pole for the forum?

Your more than welcome to setup a poll

06CBR1KMFNRR · 08-07-2007, 7:26 PM

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Your more than welcome to setup a poll

Is there a process for doing that around here? I'm sure it's right in front of me, but I'm bad at looking for stuff.

Maholli · 08-07-2007, 11:54 PM

2008 Fireblade 1000RR and yes its still a fireblade.. Just not called that in US.. Will not be a V4.. and that is the right pic, probally differant color for US market but not sure on that one... not sure i like the suzuki looking exhaust.. When asked why the Suzuki looking exhaust I was told it seems to be best set up for the track.. and all i needed to do was look at the GSXR1000 for proof.. More ponies for RR too.. was told by dealership General Manager that he would have spec sheet in a few weeks..

lanbrown · 08-08-2007, 12:10 AM

I don't trust a word from a dealership; they are the last to know anything. The second to last to know are the reps.

I get information from friends that know people at Honda of America on the motorcycle side. They are not saying a word about what will happen for '08.

Suzuki makes a lot of power, it is not the exhaust that makes them the HP. It may help, but not the only factor.

Maholli · 08-08-2007, 1:23 AM

I was told by some people who should know what there talking about.. Not just dealership people who work there. These people where involved with HRC. Which they happen to own the dealership too.. Doesnt mean there right either I know.. All im saying is when I showed them the pic that .Orgowner posted they told me that was the 081KRR.. Also I know the placement of the pipe has nothing to do with hp but i bet the 08 setup is lighter than the undertail one..

vin · 08-08-2007, 10:15 AM

Ever read "Roadracing World" magazine? They have a very interesting shootout between all the 1k'er manufacturers. According to them, the Zook takes top honors for highest HP and "overall user friendliness" on the track. Yamaha takes top honors for overall track rideability (3 out of 4 riders got their fastest lap on the R1 - I really don't know what that is supposed to mean). The Kwak took top honors for 2nd most HP and the most HP feel. However, they scored way low for handling (apparently the front end plows easily). Honda got top honors for handling. They said that the RR handles better than anything out there, and has for years. Problem is, its been a few years. I believe that Honda has a golden opportunity to really stomp the sh#! out of the others for 2008. In my very unprofessional opinion... if they give the 08 RR a few more horses (anywhere in the 160's) and keep or better the handling that they have become famous for... its gonna be a really fun year in Latigo Canyon on my new 08 RR! BTW... the magazine stated that professional track riders performed the rides/reviews and, according to them, for the average rider the differences are so subtle that you cannot go wrong with any of the bikes... excepting the Kwak's front end push... apparently that can lead to problems even for the average canyon rider (such as myself).

olio_i · 08-15-2007, 1:02 PM

I guess we'll just have to wait for the Paris motor show which will be held from the 29-th of September till 7-th October! It has been rumored that the new 1000RR will be featured there! CAN'T WAIT!!

olio_i · 08-15-2007, 1:36 PM

Here's a new pic I found....

tikki50 · 08-15-2007, 2:11 PM

if that truely is the new fireblade Honda really ****ed it up, because that thing looks nasty. tiny headlights, chromed plastic, yuk!

Maholli · 08-15-2007, 2:15 PM

The new models will be released @ the Dealers PowerSports Convention in Orlando Sept 7th... At least thats what they have done in the past.. Here is the one from last year...
Honda Announces 2007 Powersports Models at Dealer Convention in Las Vegas

I will have pics from it.. Cant wait..

Phadreus · 08-15-2007, 2:15 PM

Huh? Where's the Chromed Plastic?

olio_i · 08-15-2007, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maholli

The new models will be released @ the Dealers PowerSports Convention in Orlando Sept 7th... At least thats what they have done in the past.. Here is the one from last year...
Honda Announces 2007 Powersports Models at Dealer Convention in Las Vegas

I will have pics from it.. Cant wait..

It seems to me that they got it wrong about the CBR600RR!

but hey, only one month + 13 days to go!

Maholli · 08-15-2007, 5:43 PM

what do u mean got it wrong with the 07 600RR.. That bike just got bike of the year in one publication.. As far as I know in every bike shoot out its finished #1... Its an animal from what I have read...

Maholli · 08-15-2007, 5:51 PM

Could the 2008 Fireblade be the last CBR1000RR, before an all-new RVF1000 takes over?!

Solomoto even say that the current Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade may give way to an all-new RVF1000 by 2009! Instead of the Fireblade’s inline-four, the RVF1000 will use a 200bhp, 1000cc V4 and styling would mirror Honda’s MotoGP bikes. Should be worth waiting for!!