[Rich22]

The very latest today from Honda uk is, wait for it, ONLY USE SEMI SYNTHETIC castrol power1 GPS 10/30!!!!! my sticker actually on my bike said use fully synth power 1 racing, now honda tell me that's wrong and the sticker they put on the bike is wrong!! o My o yea and by oil accounts it will use less oil with the semi synthetic.

[Slippy]

Originally Posted by Rich22

The very latest today from Honda uk is, wait for it, ONLY USE SEMI SYNTHETIC castrol power1 GPS 10/30!!!!! my sticker actually on my bike said use fully synth power 1 racing, now honda tell me that's wrong and the sticker they put on the bike is wrong!! o My o yea and by oil accounts it will use less oil with the semi synthetic.

I changed to semi and consumption settled down

[chukky]

Demand a new Bike

[TheTrickster]

Originally Posted by Rich22

The very latest today from Honda uk is, wait for it, ONLY USE SEMI SYNTHETIC castrol power1 GPS 10/30!!!!! my sticker actually on my bike said use fully synth power 1 racing, now honda tell me that's wrong and the sticker they put on the bike is wrong!! o My o yea and by oil accounts it will use less oil with the semi synthetic.

Can you take a piccy of this sticker, my bike doesn't have a sticker?

[splatty]

First sticker I peeled off my bike and binned I'm afraid Trickster.

Although, tbf, the oil my dealer put in my bike is the one Rich22 is on about. I have done 700 miles since my first service now. When I check the oil how the manual says to, the oil level is still right on the max mark.

Now I may not ride as hard as some, and rarely go above 10000rpm on the road, but I am happy with my bike and can't complain about anything.

Oh wait...........yeah. Where the F**K are the colour coded huggers Honda

[TheTrickster]

Originally Posted by splatty

Oh wait...........yeah. Where the F**K are the colour coded huggers Honda

Honda UK can't fulfil your order? Do you know if they use 'Honda Access' in Belgium for their spares/accessories? (Honda Accessory Car and Motorcycle) I know my dealer has direct access to the spares/accessories stock system in Belgium and orders directly.

On the above site, it says the White hugger will be available second half of 2008.

Rich

[splatty]

My dealer just keeps saying that they have been delayed and they have no delivery date. It was supposed to be summer 2008, then second half of 2008.

Who knows !!!!

[mad117]

Hi all!
Well this is my introduction cause I just became a member so I can exchange information on this thread.
Unfortunately I am in the same boat, or more specifically, on the same bike as many of you! I am not going to go into all of the details cause they have all been covered so far but to make it short, between 5000K and 6200K (my total up to date) the oil level on my dip stick went from the full line to well below the low line! The stick came out nearly dry except for a little drop on the very bottom! My dealer is saying the same as everyone elses-1 litre in 1000 miles is normal. My reply was basically: So you are trying to tell me that it is normal that if I go over land (remember I live in Malta ) for 2 days, I have to pack oil under the seat? That is total crap!!!!!!!
I would like if Hoody can tell me the tel. number of the person he spoke to from Honda. My 08' Blade's condition is definately as bad as his was.
You out there Hoody??

[mad117]

Oh, and by the way, I have been using Bel Ray fully synthetic from the start. I just went by what the mechanic recommended. Now I know in hind sight that it would have been better to start with a semi synthetic but when my dealer called up a technical person from Honda they told him that at this point, (6200K) switching to a semi synthetic would be for nothing since the running in is well past.

[fischRS]

A late post, but I hope relevant. I bought my 'Blade in August and have put about 4000 km on it. I have kept an eye on the oil usage, and didn't notice anything unusual until I did a few track days recently. Halfway through the second day, I thought I might check the oil, and found it to be on the low mark - needed about 500ml to get it back up to full. I don't spare the bike at these events (Phillip Island) and I'm not too concerned if it burns a little when run hard. However, if it begins to use that quantity regularly, I'll have to take it up with the dealer...

[mad117]

Just wondering fischRS, are you on a semi or a fully synthetic oil? This seems to be the latest argument, although it shouldn't be consuming either at the rate that it is. I can understand if you gave it hell on the track, but mine did all of it's drinking on the road. -normal use.

[ton304]

My blade 08 had its first oil change at 1,000 km and now it has 3,000. I had never topped it up! always on the max mark of the dip stick I ride it like crazy and keep all other liter bikes in mirror. I think the oil problem is not all on engines

[fischRS]

Originally Posted by mad117

Just wondering fischRS, are you on a semi or a fully synthetic oil? This seems to be the latest argument, although it shouldn't be consuming either at the rate that it is. I can understand if you gave it hell on the track, but mine did all of it's drinking on the road. -normal use.

On the first oil change, the workshop put a Mobil fully synthetic oil in - Mobil Extra 4 HT or something... I've now put in a Motul 5100 synthetic oil that they recommended. Haven't had it out since, but will watch closely. I don't recall it using any until after the 3000 km point.

[fischRS]

Originally Posted by ton304

My blade 08 had its first oil change at 1,000 km and now it has 3,000. I had never topped it up! always on the max mark of the dip stick I ride it like crazy and keep all other liter bikes in mirror. I think the oil problem is not all on engines

Let's hope so.... Mine didn't use any until after the 3000 km point either.....

[sb1000rr]

Originally Posted by Slippy

I changed to semi and consumption settled down

i have used semi sinthetic since my first oil change, and the last 2000kms ive used 500ml of oil. i have now been told by honda here to put in the genuine honda oil gn4 i think, which is a mineral oil and ride it for 1000kms and check the consumption. i was also told by the guys at phillip island gp who prepare the asbk race bikes not to use motul oil, apparently everyone who has been using motul have had burning issues. as for the cruising and racing question, mine only seems to smell like it is burning oil when giving it a hard time.....

[ton304]

I know who used belrail, honda oil, silcolene who had buring issues so its not just Motul, there is a problem with the bile and not with the oil

[splatty]

Took her in for the water pump clamp recall on Friday. Lovely day so went for a hard(ish) ride after for about 150 miles. No faster than 120mph, sorry guys but I need my license.

Gave her a good clean on Saturday morning and checked the oil. She has about 1400 miles on the clock now, so 800 since the service. Oil level still on the maximum mark.

Mentioned the oil "issue" at the dealer on Friday, and they have heard about it and agree with 1000ml to 1000 miles Honda stance, but have only heard about a couple of their bikes burning oil. One guy did run his really low, but didn't check it for 3000 miles or something !!

Picked a bottle of top-up while I was there anyway. They confirmed to me to buy what they put in at the service "Castrol GPS Power 1 Racing 10/30W Semi Synthetic".

The issue does still worry me, but for the moment, mine still seems fine

[gavinarber]

Hi all i am a new member and just bought an 08 fireblade a little over a month ago. just had 600 mile service and dealer did not say anything was wrong with oil consumption. I am worried , how do you know if your bike is losing oil ? are all the owners out there experiencing problems getting a light on the speedo indicating low oil? or are you checking every 5 mins with dip stick. The feedback on this site is very negative about what in my opinion is a fantastic bike.

[setanta]

Oh dont think its all negative, little problems yes.
I check mine every other day, when I remember, no real problem with it up till now, see manual on how to.

[mad117]

Originally Posted by gavinarber

Hi all i am a new member and just bought an 08 fireblade a little over a month ago. just had 600 mile service and dealer did not say anything was wrong with oil consumption. I am worried , how do you know if your bike is losing oil ? are all the owners out there experiencing problems getting a light on the speedo indicating low oil? or are you checking every 5 mins with dip stick. The feedback on this site is very negative about what in my opinion is a fantastic bike.

Some are and some aren't. Don't get me wrong. I agree that this is an exceptional bike and you should be very happy with it. Just a shame that some seem to be faulty. Hope yours is not included! I would recommend that you do not go more than 300km without checking the oil. At least until you know whether or not you have a problem or how severe it is if you do. I sincerely hope that Honda will look after those of us who do. My dealer sent in an official report about my bike to Honda last week. Will let you all know the reply when I get it.

[curvoolico]

Hello guys!

I'm from Portugal and a Honda addicted as well.. i agree with the post that said "it passed from dream bike to nightmare one"

I had, in the past, one CB600F Hornet, one CBR 954RR and one 1000RR '04.
None of them ever consumed oil!! All of them made at least 30.000 kms!
Now i made the first change of oil at the 6K kms and it appears thar burns oil as well!!
I'm going crazy with this and I'll write to everyone, including local bike magazines complaining about this, even if I have to go against my "old" talk that Honda bikes never consume oil like i used to joke with Yamaha friends that were used to travell with oil cans with them!!

[Mor]

Originally Posted by fischRS

I've now put in a Motul 5100 synthetic oil (...)

It's not synthetic, it's semi-synthetic oil, but with ester base

Originally Posted by sb1000rr

i was also told by the guys at phillip island gp who prepare the asbk race bikes not to use motul oil, apparently everyone who has been using motul have had burning issues.

In the past, I used Mobil oil in motorcycles and now I use Motul 300v 4t 10W40. Don't notice any oil loss. So it's not becouse of oil manufacturer. And I'll never use Castrol even if I would put 2 litres of oil for 1 kkm.

[SPICEBURGER]

Dont think the problem is in them all as I am now on my second.My first bike was burning a litre every 300 miles.Mr Honda took it back in and after five weeks and alot of tests the gave me a new one.The new one has not burnt a drop of oil.

[fischRS]

Originally Posted by SPICEBURGER

Dont think the problem is in them all as I am now on my second.My first bike was burning a litre every 300 miles.Mr Honda took it back in and after five weeks and alot of tests the gave me a new one.The new one has not burnt a drop of oil.

There seems to be a pattern here - this is the second bike replacement I've heard of, and the oil burning problem seems to be relatively common. Does anyone have data on when they start to burn oil (mine didn't start until 3000km point), what percentage of the fleet is affected, or the cause - faulty parts etc? If some burn and others don't then there must be a reason. I can feel a recall coming on....

[mad117]

Originally Posted by SPICEBURGER

Dont think the problem is in them all as I am now on my second.My first bike was burning a litre every 300 miles.Mr Honda took it back in and after five weeks and alot of tests the gave me a new one.The new one has not burnt a drop of oil.

How is iy that they changed the whole bike and not just the engine? They usually do as little as possible. How many kms so far? What oil?

[mad117]

I would be overjoyed if they would change my bike but have heard it is not possible.

[Rich22]

Originally Posted by mad117

I would be overjoyed if they would change my bike but have heard it is not possible.

Talk to Honda direct and make reference to this forum quoting fischRS experiences with getting a new bike, they may help you

[splatty]

I understand the worry about early bikes, but to me still, this problem has no pattern.

I had one of the first few Blades that my dealer had, and she was registered on the about 10th March. Approximately 5 had gone out before I took delivery of mine.

Mine hasn't burnt a drop of oil, and from what my dealer tells me, 99% of the Blades they have sold haven't either. I know the guys there pretty well, and trust them. I know they won't be giving me any BS.

[coombehouse]

I too have oil consumption problems. From what I can see it seems to affect UK & european bikes more than others.

See 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

for my current position.

Honda have been very unhelpful up to now although my dealer has been supportive there is little he can do.
Owners of affected bikes need to get together so that we can make the motorcycle press aware of the problem. That way Honda may respond to prevent adverse publicity.
Any other suggestions?

Nick

[fischRS]

I think we have to resist getting overly worried or panicked like the financial markets with this problem. Honda make a good product, and if there's a real problem with burning oil, I'm confident that they'll do the right thing. So far, I've had problems with a poorly fitted cowl (dealer mucked it up so dealer replaced it) and a cracked nose cone (around the RH mirror area, nose cone replaced under warranty), and the dealer has always had my interests at heart. I went out for 6.5 hours the other day and probably did 400 km of combined highway and fast spur riding, and my bike didn't appear to burn any more oil (I had noticed oil was low at a track day previously) - that's good..... If my bike continues to burn oil, I will keep detailed records of when I went riding, how far, what sort of riding, what oil, when I replaced it and topped it up, and with how much etc. If your bike is burning oil now, I would recommend you do the same, so that when you approach Honda or the dealer, you have the facts to back you up. The bottom line is that all our bikes should still be under warranty, and if Honda has made and sold a faulty product, then they are required by contract/consumer law to address the problem.

Anyhow, I had a good weekend, and am awaiting the arrival of a new Taylormade exhaust to make it go and sound better.....