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Fireblade 2008 - oil

Hi, I have a 2008 Fireblade. It is 2 months old and nearly done 4,000 miles, since it had the 600 miles service it has used oil. I reported it to the dealer who sold me the bike, they said they will monitor the oil consumption and report to Honda. So I rode round with my dad while he was running in his 2008 R1, we did 700 miles and it used 250 ml of oil, but this was really taking it easy. Honda say this is within the 'normal' tolerance. I have spoken to a couple of friends who have the same bike and they say theirs does not use oil. I have spoken to other lads who have had many new bikes, they say they have never had the problem of oil usage, I relayed this information to the guy I am in communication with at the dealers.

It has already used a noticeable amount of oil in about 100 miles since they measured what it has used, they are having it in for the 4000 mile service next week and they will measure again.

The dealers are playing it down and saying it is normal usage, I on the other hand is not F-ing happy and would not of spent that much cash on a bike to have to carry oil round with me in case it needs it when I go touring

So anyone else using oil, am I fussing over nothing, or what would you do?

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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

yet to do my service for the 600 miles (been away working too damn much) but I will keep an eye on it and let you know if anything arises.

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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

Anybody else got any info

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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

It is not uncommon for a new engine to use some oil while it is in the break-in stage. Once you get to 7,000 or 8,000 miles if it still continues, then I would start to push the dealer.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

I had to take my Fireblade back to the dealer today to top up with oil.....'again'
It is using 700ml per 1000 miles, I think that is extreem. It is having its 4000 mile service on Thursday so at least it will be topped up again
The dealer said they have been on to Honda, Honda say it is still within the 1L per 1000 mile specification that they give, not sure where it says it but I will investigate. So the dealer gave me the Honda phone number to ring to talk to them about it, I gave details and they said they will ring back tomorrow.
So anyone got any opinions, suggestions ..... anything you would say or want doing, or would you just accept what they say

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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

im no expert but 1L per 1000 miles, seems like its burning way too much oil,i had a new cbr600 few years ago that burnt pretty much no oil,
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

Good luck with Honda. Hopefully they will be willing to give you the re-hone and ring job that you probably need.

Now before you say "But I followed their break-in recommendations to the letter", let me mention that if I am ever lucky enough to buy a new bike, I will definitely be following the suggestions given here: Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

Having said that, I still think it is disappointing to get that kind of oil consumption and Honda oughta fix it.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

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Good luck with Honda. Hopefully they will be willing to give you the re-hone and ring job that you probably need.

Now before you say "But I followed their break-in recommendations to the letter", let me mention that if I am ever lucky enough to buy a new bike, I will definitely be following the suggestions given here: Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

Having said that, I still think it is disappointing to get that kind of oil consumption and Honda oughta fix it.
is is such a secret that the manufacturers dont know this method,
or is there a reason they dont recommend it.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

Well, the reason he gives for the manufacturers keeping it a "secret" is basically that if they gave them these recommendations there could be an implied liability if some noobies killed themselves while following them.

If you read through the whole website info it makes for a pretty compelling argument.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

Hoody,

Go to the dealler more often for the oil check and check the oil with a rag before you go.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

I have had 6 different bikes in the past 3 and a half years (all purchased new except the '03 CBR954RR and all Hondas but one) and never had a problem with any of them burning oil. Currently I have an '06 ST1300A and an '08 CBR1000RR. I have put more than 36,000 miles on the ST1300 without ever having burned any oil. But in the 2500 miles I have put on the CBR I have already had to add a total about a liter of oil (Honda full synthetic HP4s used at 600 mile change and since then). I am very concerned about this. I bought Honda because of their reputation for quality engineering but looks like I may have a problem with this one. This is a new engine with a nickel silicon coating on the heads instead of sleeves like the previous engines. I knew this when I bought it but figured if it was good enough for Honda it was good enough for me, but maybe the use of the nikasil in this engine wasn't as well tested as it should have been. Guess I'm gonna have to fork over the extra $$ for the extended warranty to make sure I'm covered past the initial year. Would love to know more about what the dealers and Honda say in response to oil burning on others' bikes. Watch for oil on your exhaust - I get specks there after every ride.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

kthrockm - I am sorry to hear you are having the same trouble as me, Honda are suppose to be phoning me to discuss this two days ago, they had an excuse for not, then someone phoned me today to say they will be phoning tomorrow? 'What a load of shite'. I wish I had kept my ZX6RC1, it did not cost £10k, did not burn oil and was a hoot to ride, just not as fast and as refined

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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

Its a 2 stroke.....

Thanks for the heads up on this and will keep a close eye on this.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

Hoody, I have an 08 blade with the first service well and truly over. I have to say its not burning oil. In any case ask the dealer does he actually know what he's talking about??????? Burning almost a litre of oil every 1600km thats something to really complain about . Good luck.
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Re: Fireblade 2008 - oil

Just a bit of a heads up, just had my 600 mile service done and asked them what oil was in it, 10w30 fully synthetic, Don't get me wrong Honda must know what they are doing but it surprised the hell out of me that they used a fully synth from day one, in my experience its normally a mineral or semi synth up to the first service then flush and change it afterwards, being that mineral or semi synth being thicker to cling on to all the **** in the engine after that your good to go.

It also explains the clunky gearbox as there is no viscosity to quieten it down.

Hoody I will keep an eye on the oil consumption and let you know if I have the same problem.

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