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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

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Do the 08 blades come from the factory with synthetic in them?

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Can't use Synthetic to run a bike in..... Run in on Minerel oil
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

I think he's asking if some bikes are being delivered with full-synth already in them?

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

If I am to believe my dealer then YES mine has had silkolene fully synth in from day one. I do not understand why and if they feel its ok and they are prepared to cover the warranty then who am I to argue. I may just switch to Castrol after this investigation is finished.

I have about 200 miles (which I am hoping to do today) left to ride before I take it back to them for them to measure whats going on. I am hoping that it was just newness as to the reason why it burnt so much oil in one day and now the bike has 1700 miles on it maybe it has bedded in better ???? who knows.

more as I find out

UPDATE: I spoke to one of the mechies at my dealership and he told me out the factory the bike came with mineral oil, at the 600 mile service it was replaced with fully synth, I wish service and sales people would get their **** together.

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UPDATE: I spoke to one of the mechies at my dealership and he told me out the factory the bike came with mineral oil, at the 600 mile service it was replaced with fully synth, I wish service and sales people would get their **** together.
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In aircraft engines (Lycomings, Continentals) they always use straight mineral oil for the first 25 hours or so. My last two Corvettes (1992 and 2002) have had Mobil1 since they left the factory with no oil burning problems in either one. I guess it can go both ways depending on the manufacturer.

If I was buying an 08 Blade I would use mineral oil for the first 3k miles or at least through two oil changes. Just my .02...

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

I think it's more of a problem on plated aluminium bores.
I don't think cast iron liners are as big a problem as they're quite soft in comparison.
Do the LT5 and LS1 have iron liners or aluminium?

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

Just an update for those interested.

I did the 200 miles needed yesterday and took the bike back to the dealer and they basically filled it up with 430ml of oil for the 600 miles, meaning that it is less than hondas recommendation of 1000ml for 1000miles mine works out at 716ml for 1000 miles.

I am still not happy that its burning that much oil but there is feck all I can do about it at the moment so the fact its logged at the dealers I will see how it goes to the next service (4000 miles) and take it from there.

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Just an update for those interested.

I did the 200 miles needed yesterday and took the bike back to the dealer and they basically filled it up with 430ml of oil for the 600 miles, meaning that it is less than hondas recommendation of 1000ml for 1000miles mine works out at 716ml for 1000 miles.

I am still not happy that its burning that much oil but there is feck all I can do about it at the moment so the fact its logged at the dealers I will see how it goes to the next service (4000 miles) and take it from there.

Russ
Russ, i think that is high but acceptable, i know an 08 with 4500miles on and the oil consumption has gone down with the higher mileage hopefully yours will do the same. Mine does around 1ltr per 2000 miles, i did run it in hard to seal the bores (0-50 miles through the gears up to 12000 rpm) i think this helps seal the rings and aids consumption.

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I think it's more of a problem on plated aluminium bores.
I don't think cast iron liners are as big a problem as they're quite soft in comparison.
Do the LT5 and LS1 have iron liners or aluminium?

Gen 3s (LS1) use an aluminum block with cast-in-place iron liners.

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

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I'm new on here but I have been reading with interest of he oil burning issues. My wife has an 08 Blade which appears to have oil burning issues. Its covered just over 2000 miles & has dropped from the max to the min mark on the stick in 400 miles. It drank some before the 600 mile service & needed topping up at 1600miles too. We are using Castrol mineral at the moment.
When I follow her the exhaust smells like a smoky coal fire & it does puff a little but only occasionally.
It was run in hard with lots of variation in revs (no different to any of our other bikes)
Now heres the thing - we have very close contacts with our local dealer & 1 blade has been replaced as it drank all its oil & spun a bearing & two others are using excessive amounts. It appears to affect those that are ridden hard with lots of on/off throttle action most. The shop demo bike is fine!
UK bikes come ready filled from Japan with oil - we believe its mineral but cant be positive. It a lottery as to what you get at the first service as most dealers use bulk oil of varying manufacturers.
I am going to measure the amount needed to get back to max tomorrow & then try a change to Agip fully synthetic as its a known quantity for me & monitor the situation. Something isnt right about this though - we are talking Honda here. How did this bike meet Euro 3 emissions legislation like this?
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

Guys,

Just got back from a weeks fast road riding on the Isle of Man. One of the Instructors mentioned that there was a "fix" coming out for the excessive oil useage on the blade.

He said that it had been recognised that due to the fact that the engine is inclined forward, under "progressive" riding the oil pickup can be compromised & some of the oil is then burnt. There is no lasting engine damage, just a higher than normal usage.

Watch this space I guess........................
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

I noticed on my first Fireblade and the replacement one, if you are giving it some; that is when it burns oil. If you ride say .... speed limit everywhere then I am unsure if it would use any oil at all.

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

regarding oil and break in period. first 1.000 km (about 630 miles) you should not have synthetic oil in ur bike because it doesn't let parts to break in. second of all it is recomended to ride ur bike those first 630 miles as it is written in ur manual. if u ride it without any limitations parts are scracthing each other too much because they are not fiting in so good because they are new. also non-synthetic oil is not so resistant to high temperatures which are produced by high rpm's. on high temperatures non-synthetic oil becomes thiner (less thick) and it can't do it's job so good. that way u have even more ur bike's parts scratching. synthetic oil on the other hand is thick and high temperatures resisting and it doesn't let parts to break in properly.

i don't think ur bike is "eating"so much oil because of synthetic oil and maybe because of the "hard" breaking in. it probably has some problem from the first day but i would recomend u next time not to put synthetic oil in first 600 miles and not to ride it hard. in first 600 miles u can go up to 7.000 rpm's and don't rev it fast...rev it continously but without quick twist of the throttle.

i like new blade a lot but these oil stories are making me think...
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

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not to ride it hard. in first 600 miles u can go up to 7.000 rpm's and don't rev it fast...rev it continously but without quick twist of the throttle.
Not true not good advice mate
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what would be good advice then?
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

The rings are pressed against the bores by gas pressure behind the rings. You need hard revs to get that pressure.
Babying the motor just glazes the bore surface and the rings.
A.G. Bell's Four-Stroke Performance Tuning has a good in-depth look at the mechanics of running in an engine.

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