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post #1 of 130 Old 07-13-2008, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
 
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2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

My bike has been burning oil since I got it. Just on yesterday's ride alone, at 384 miles, it lost ~2/3 quart. With 2464 (slightly optimistic as I put some miles on before installing my Speedo-Healer), it has now lost 3 quarts of synthetic 10w-30 & 10w-40). No leaks of any kind/ no oil in airbox/coolant. But the can tip is black & other riders commented on smelling burnt oil when I get on the gas & seeing smoke.

I called Honda & complained & they basically said some BS about 1 quart per thousand miles is within tolerance, but agreed that should not be happening. Bottom line, take it to the dealer.

I spoke to the head mechanic at Powersports where I bought it, and he agreed something is wrong. I will take the bike in this week.

I don't want my bike torn apart & fixed though if they find a problem (I'm betting a leakdown will reveal problems in one or more cylinders). Once the cases get opened, the bike will never be the same (speaking from experience). What are my options? Has anyone dealt with this before. Someone on one of the CBR forums got the dealer to take their bike back after he had a myriad of problems (they sold him another make).

As far as power, I've got it geared -1F +3R & the bike won't power wheelie in 2nd unless the tank is near empty (was trying to get a dyno pull before going into the shop). It basically feels slower than my 96 GSX-R750 racebike. I'm pretty bummed.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

My read is that the rings didn't seat properly. I assume you unfortunately followed the Honda-recommended break-in procedure. Therefore you need new rings and freshly honed cylinders. Take a look here for a possible explanation, and modified recommendations: Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

I would also follow those recommendations if they give you a new bike!

I have never had a new bike or one with a newly rebuilt engine, so I have not used the modified procedures. But, for what it's worth, i definitely WILL use them if I ever get a new bike.

I have also read stories that seem to suggest that some dealers have mistakenly filled the new bikes with synthetic oil, thus preventing proper break-in.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

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My read is that the rings didn't seat properly. I assume you unfortunately followed the Honda-recommended break-in procedure. Therefore you need new rings and freshly honed cylinders. Take a look here for a possible explanation, and modified recommendations: Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

I would also follow those recommendations if they give you a new bike!

I have never had a new bike or one with a newly rebuilt engine, so I have not used the modified procedures. But, for what it's worth, i definitely WILL use them if I ever get a new bike.

I have also read stories that seem to suggest that some dealers have mistakenly filled the new bikes with synthetic oil, thus preventing proper break-in.
I rode it just as I would ride it normally; i.e. I did not follow any 'break-in' procedures per se.

The shop manual says 174psi is normal cylinder pressure, and less could be a blown head gasket (unlikely since there is no oil in the coolant), bad rings, or bad valve guides.

It will be interesting to see what the leakdown shows, but I am going to push hard for a new bike, or at the very least, a new engine.

As far as synthetic goes, many new vehicles come from the factory with it (i.e. my Corvette)...
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

something seriously wrong if it wont power wheelie in 3rd and maybe 4th full of fuel with that gearing.......
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something seriously wrong if it wont power wheelie in 3rd and maybe 4th full of fuel with that gearing.......
Ahhhhhh............You should have a serious problem keeping the front down!

You can't go through life dragging your a55 so I drag my knees!
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

My 08 burns oil as well, but not that much... Seems like alot of other people have had similar problems.. I did read where someone got a brand new bike because of it..
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Ahhhhhh............You should have a serious problem keeping the front down!
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

Hi, just reading you post and noticed you mentioned the thread I started about oil, I have received a new bike but I would think that every case is individual. My replacement is going in tomorrow for first service, so I do not have any info yet. Here is a link to the thread;

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

We have bike night on wed. and met someone with a 081k and when he reved it in neutal it smoked like a fogger. He was an older gent and said he has not beat on it. He is quite upset. This probly doesnt help you but you are not the only one who has this problem im afraid. Good luck and keep us informed.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

Do you have Lemon Law in your state? You need to start logging all the trips to the dealer and keep your receipts. You might be able to take Honda to abitration and get a replacement bike (or even your money back).

I sucessfully did this with my POS 2000 Corvette Coupe when I lived in Michigan. Due to an admitted faulty PCV system in the LS1, in 11 months, the car used 13 quarts of oil ---- amongst other issues such as inconsistent paint, poor panel gaps, broken stitching on the seat, a leaking hatch, cracked radio buttons and electrical issues. Not slagging off American product, but this particular 'vette was a real POS.

Through a good attorney who specialises in Lemon Law, I was able to get back my money and return the car....all at no cost to me (GM paid the attorney costs).

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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

I am getting ready to purchase an 08 CBR1000rr, but after reading all of the issues about them burning oil and smoking, some even after the break-in period, I'm not sure what to do. Anyone know what type of oil the factory puts in the engines before they ship to the dealer? What oil is recommended for the break-in period? I've read motoman's break-in method and it makes sense to me, but the oil consumption issue seems to be so random, it doesn't necessarily seem to be related to how the bike was broken in. This would be my 4th bike in 10 years, and I have never had a bike that used/burned oil. Any additional information would be helpfull.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

I have not had any issues with burning oil little over 5300 miles on the bike..And that it running it to red line in 2nd and 3rd gear for about 200 miles a weekend.

I break all my bikes in the same way for first 300 miles constantly running different gears and constantly changing RPM's have done 5 bikes this way and never had an issue with burning oil.

It does burn a little oil between changes but not as much as you...So I wuold say you have an issue.

Only major problem I had with my 2008 was the paint issue..After my low slide on the first of June I got all new plastics and they seem to hold up well and don't chip as easily.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

My 08 does not burn oil or smoke.
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Re: 2008 CBR1000RR is burning oil like mad - options?

My replacement bike has done about 1500 miles, it has used a little oil but nothing to worry about.

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I am getting ready to purchase an 08 CBR1000rr, but after reading all of the issues about them burning oil and smoking, some even after the break-in period, I'm not sure what to do. Anyone know what type of oil the factory puts in the engines before they ship to the dealer? What oil is recommended for the break-in period? I've read motoman's break-in method and it makes sense to me, but the oil consumption issue seems to be so random, it doesn't necessarily seem to be related to how the bike was broken in. This would be my 4th bike in 10 years, and I have never had a bike that used/burned oil. Any additional information would be helpfull.
I'm sittin on the fence right next to ya buddy! I was hot to get one of these bikes but am not willing to risk it until Honda get's this oil consumption thing sorted out. It is not synthetic oil or break in procedure that's causing the problem, there's another underlying cause IMHO! I'll probably wait until the '09s come out and see if things are improved.

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