The only time I don't like LBS...

Baketech · 05-09-2006, 7:30 PM

Had to bleed em today so I can go play with the VFRista this weekend...

ConqSoft · 05-09-2006, 7:32 PM

In that case, the next time you tour over this way, you can change my fluid for me.

LUCIDDREAM57 · 05-09-2006, 7:33 PM

How is it different for bleeding the brakes on a car??? A car definatly has a linked brake system........with abs too. Are vrfs equiped with abs?

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According to the title that means you like the system. I would think it would take away some of the intamicy with the road. Is there some sort of proportioning valve to the rear brakes to reduce pressure?
If not, I would think heavy trail-braking would induce rear lock up due to the shifting weight. I really don't know how it's different.

Red Rider · 05-09-2006, 7:36 PM

I remember bleeding them on my '98. Took a lot of fluid and a lot of patience...

Repeater · 05-09-2006, 8:11 PM

I thought car breaks were somewhat seperate systems that only fed off the same brake fluid reservour.

How are linked breaks at the track?

Baketech · 05-09-2006, 8:31 PM

SEVEN bleeder screws...

LUCIDDREAM57 · 05-09-2006, 8:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

SEVEN bleeder screws...

hmmm.......I'm no mathematictian but if one devides 7/3 that makes 2.5 bleeder valves per brake caliper??? huh??? Is there an extra bleeder valve at the pipe joint from front to rear?

sheepofblue · 05-09-2006, 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Repeater

I thought car breaks were somewhat seperate systems that only fed off the same brake fluid reservour.

How are linked breaks at the track?

Slow

Baketech · 05-09-2006, 8:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Repeater

How are linked breaks at the track?

Fast guys tend to find them limiting...but don't tell Reg Pridmore...

Red Rider · 05-09-2006, 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Fast guys tend to find them limiting...but don't tell Reg Pridmore...

I never had a problem with the LBS on the track or street. When you pulled the front brake the bike just seemed to squat down and stop. Some guys have gone through the hassle of delinking the system...

Baketech · 05-09-2006, 9:15 PM

It for sure has never limited me...

..and I actually think it works pretty well on the road...

OSIRIS · 05-09-2006, 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

It for sure has never limited me...

..and I actually think it works pretty well on the road...

Unless you're a noob, which seem to make it a little easier to lock the wheel...don't ask how I know

phobiaphobe · 05-09-2006, 9:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LUCIDDREAM57

hmmm.......I'm no mathematictian but if one devides 7/3 that makes 2.5 bleeder valves per brake caliper??? huh??? Is there an extra bleeder valve at the pipe joint from front to rear?

You'll have to read up on how the LBS works... Correct me if I'm wrong here:

It's pretty elaborate. 2 front calipers each have 3 pistons. Rear caliper has 2 pistons. Front brake lever activates 4 of the 6 front pistons. Rear brake pedal activates 1 of the 2 rear pistons, 2 of the 6 fronts. THe other rear piston is activated by the cantilever-mounted left front caliper pushing against a 3rd master cylinder when the drag from braking moves it on its pivot. Something like that anyway.

CBRVFR · 05-09-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LUCIDDREAM57

According to the title that means you like the system. I would think it would take away some of the intamicy with the road. .

Reducing intimacy with the road is the whole point..

LUCIDDREAM57 · 05-09-2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

You'll have to read up on how the LBS works... Correct me if I'm wrong here:

It's pretty elaborate. 2 front calipers each have 3 pistons. Rear caliper has 2 pistons. Front brake lever activates 4 of the 6 front pistons. Rear brake pedal activates 1 of the 2 rear pistons, 2 of the 6 fronts. THe other rear piston is activated by the cantilever-mounted left front caliper pushing against a 3rd master cylinder when the drag from braking moves it on its pivot. Something like that anyway.

oh, ok. So, the braking bias isn't 50/50, I was just curious.

gt702 · 05-10-2006, 10:50 AM

Bleeding was a pain, but I disliked them most while "adventure touring".

Going down steep, rut and gravel filled, dirt roads (more like fire trails) in the mountains were quite nerve racking when you knew the front could lock up and wash out if you weren't really careful with the back brake. Much nicer with non-linked brakes where you could drag and slide the rear to keep you pointed in the right direction.

luvtolean · 05-10-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Baketech

Fast guys tend to find them limiting...but don't tell Reg Pridmore...

Yeah, he can hustle one of those LBS bitches around the track.

I was out riding around the outside edge of Laguna (out lap) when he came around the outside of me on the tiger teeth, and then threw a roost when he hit the dirt, in turn 4...with a student on back.

We had a laugh about it in the class session afterwards.