Dirt Bike bound...

showmethebombs · 04-17-2006, 12:05 PM

I am looking in the world of off road now...and then the beg question comes to my mine - 2 stroke, or 4 stroke?

I am looking to be doing mostly woods/trial riding, but I will want to go out and rip up the sand pits...

what direction should I go, and why?

Also - I am about 6'0" 200Lbs, last dirt bike I owned was a KX 125 when I was in the 8th grade!

BDA116 · 04-17-2006, 12:09 PM

Get a CRF450. I happen to know where an '06 is in pretty decent condition. The owner may or may not have enough garage space so you would be able to pick it up in the middle of the night.
All it would take is a quick trip to Texas.

RRWANTR · 04-17-2006, 1:26 PM

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Get a CRF450. I happen to know where an '06 is in pretty decent condition. The owner may or may not have enough garage space so you would be able to pick it up in the middle of the night.
All it would take is a quick trip to Texas.

BACK OFF! I all ready have dibs on that one.

showmethebombs · 04-17-2006, 2:24 PM

Is the CRF450 too heavy to toss around quick like?

Pete · 04-17-2006, 2:33 PM

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Get a CRF450. I happen to know where an '06 is in pretty decent condition. The owner may or may not have enough garage space so you would be able to pick it up in the middle of the night.
All it would take is a quick trip to Texas.

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BACK OFF! I all ready have dibs on that one.

LMFAO!!!

Pete · 04-17-2006, 2:34 PM

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Is the CRF450 too heavy to toss around quick like?

Uh, J, you obviously haven't kept up with Motocross or Supercross lately.

BDA116 · 04-17-2006, 3:21 PM

Yeah, the CRF450 isn't much heavier than the CR250. It is a blast to ride, but it can definately toss you around quick like.

showmethebombs · 04-18-2006, 9:34 AM

You're right Pete! I have been out of the loop for a bit!

I really want to go 4 stroke...so I am really happy to hear it is not air heavy!

Pete · 04-18-2006, 10:03 AM

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You're right Pete! I have been out of the loop for a bit!

I really want to go 4 stroke...so I am really happy to hear it is not air heavy!

A great bike to run trails and do occasional motoX tracks would be the 450X. It's a bit milder than the R model, but still runs like a banshee. And that electric start sure is nice. It's what I would have gotten had I not stumbled across such a great deal on this '06 R.

SomeStrangeGuy · 04-18-2006, 12:43 PM

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A great bike to run trails and do occasional motoX tracks would be the 450X. It's a bit milder than the R model, but still runs like a banshee. And that electric start sure is nice. It's what I would have gotten had I not stumbled across such a great deal on this '06 R.

The man is correct, 450x is the shizdizzle. I think the MSO states 53hp and weight somewhere in the mid 230's?

Though if your looking for something street legal out of the box...it may take a little bit of work, but not much - being in Vt. and all

RRWANTR · 04-18-2006, 12:52 PM

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Though if your looking for something street legal out of the box...it may take a little bit of work, but not much - being in Vt. and all

Not tough at all. Buy an 06 Husky TE450 (or TE250 or their SM models) and it's 50 state DOT street legal out of the box.

luvtolean · 04-18-2006, 3:37 PM

A CRF450 is NOTABLY heavier than a CR250. Not one CR450F rider that's tried it has neglected to talk about how light and flickable it felt.

If you can, get out on a CR250F. I haven't tried one, but several very experienced riding buddies prefer them on trails due to the lighter weight.

Out here in the dez, it's all about HP, and no doubt, the 450 is king. (though I still prefer my antique 2 stroke)

tuffy6969 · 04-18-2006, 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by showmethebombs

I am looking in the world of off road now...and then the beg question comes to my mine - 2 stroke, or 4 stroke?

I am looking to be doing mostly woods/trial riding, but I will want to go out and rip up the sand pits...

what direction should I go, and why?

Also - I am about 6'0" 200Lbs, last dirt bike I owned was a KX 125 when I was in the 8th grade!

I currently own a 1999 CR250 and I wouldn't own ANYTHING else. The CR250 is a fantastic handling bike. It's light on it's feet and it's got power through low, med, and high. I have owned 125's, and I even owned a CR500...too heavy and not enough power.

Four strokes - you have to buy more bikje to get the same output as a two stroke. It's up to you. There is nothing a four stroke can do that my CR250 can't do. In fact - I usually win.

Good luck in your decision -

.....OMT - - I am 6' 0" and weigh 195lbs.

Pete · 04-18-2006, 6:07 PM

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I usually win.

Your post lost all credibility with just those thee words.

tuffy6969 · 04-18-2006, 6:54 PM

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Your post lost all credibility with just those thee words.

Okkkkk.........??????? Coming from the owner of a CRF450R.......you are bias.

SomeStrangeGuy · 04-18-2006, 9:02 PM

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Okkkkk.........??????? Coming from the owner of a CRF450R.......you are bias.

Just winning is never enough, is the point. You must show them to truly win.

Then rep them.

Mojave954 · 04-18-2006, 9:43 PM

450's are the way to go out here with all the openess.

tuffy6969 · 04-18-2006, 9:49 PM

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Just winning is never enough, is the point. You must show them to truly win.

Then rep them.

Oh...I agree. I think my message was taken out of context. It's up to the person buying the bike. All I can say is do your homework. If you do that - you will be happier with what you own. In MY opinion - I couldn't have a better bike than a CR250R. Then again - it's a Honda!

G-Force Junkie · 04-19-2006, 12:43 AM

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There is nothing a four stroke can do that my CR250 can't do.

Bet you cant go 175 miles on 4 gallons like my 4 stroke 250

firebladetoronto · 04-19-2006, 1:40 AM

Would you guys still recommend the CRF450 for a new dirt bike rider, but experienced street and track rider?? 6.1, 260lbs+?

tuffy6969 · 04-19-2006, 10:35 AM

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Bet you cant go 175 miles on 4 gallons like my 4 stroke 250

Bet you're right!

Mileage is not a 2-stroke's best feature!

MrX954 · 04-19-2006, 10:40 AM

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Would you guys still recommend the CRF450 for a new dirt bike rider, but experienced street and track rider?? 6.1, 260lbs+?

Maybe if it was someone I really didnt like.

Starting with a CRF450 on dirt is like starting out with a blade on the street, it can be done but isnt the smartest of choices.

My

is its better to start on a CRF250 and learn some more aggressive riding techniques then bump up to a 450 when you're ready.

Pete · 04-19-2006, 10:42 AM

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Okkkkk.........??????? Coming from the owner of a CRF450R.......you are bias.

My point was that it's pretty lame to claim to be a "winner" while you're sitting behind a keyboard.

Nowhere did I claim that a 4-stroke would be better than a 2-stroke for SMTB. I'm very new to dirtbike ownership, so I don't have a wealth of knowledge to share on the subject, and don't pretend to.

Pete · 04-19-2006, 10:49 AM

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Starting with a CRF450 on dirt is like starting out with a blade on the street, it can be done but isnt the smartest of choices.

I tend to agree, based on the fact that I know I am "in over my head" with my 450.

RRWANTR · 04-19-2006, 11:47 AM

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I tend to agree, based on the fact that I know I am "in over my head" with my 450.

Just send it to me...I'll trade ya for an xr50 that would be more your style.

Pete · 04-19-2006, 11:54 AM

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Just send it to me...I'll trade ya for an xr50 that would be more your style.

tuffy6969 · 04-19-2006, 12:00 PM

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My point was that it's pretty lame to claim to be a "winner" while you're sitting behind a keyboard.

Nowhere did I claim that a 4-stroke would be better than a 2-stroke for SMTB. I'm very new to dirtbike ownership, so I don't have a wealth of knowledge to share on the subject, and don't pretend to.

You are lame for making a big deal out of NOTHING. Good God. I NEVER said a 2 stroke would be better. I gave my opinion and let THE RIDER decide. I have owned dirt bikes all my life and have rode all types - that's why I gave him my honest opinion. If that's not enough to satisfy you.....oh well.

Pete · 04-19-2006, 12:24 PM

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I gave him my honest opinion.

What do you "usually win" at?

EDDIE110171 · 04-19-2006, 12:39 PM

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What do you "usually win" at?

Not this argument.

RRWANTR · 04-19-2006, 1:00 PM

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I'll even toss in the training wheels for it so you don't get in over your head.