Honda Off-Road: Discussion of Honda Off-Road Vehicles, including Honda Dirt Bikes, Honda ATVs, Honda 4-Wheelers, and Honda Watercraft.
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01-20-2004, 5:08 PM
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Join Date: 08-01-2001 Location: Lost
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| CR 250 Tear Down Well, I decided my bike was kinda "ratty feeling" after riding Boomer's new CRF this past weekend. I decided since I'll be traveling the next few weeks it was time to tear it down and do some work. It's never had a new top end, so I started with that. I pulled the jug last night.
I have run race fuel with Mobil MX2T since about the third tank of fuel in this bike. This motor is fairly sensitive to jetting (and can be made to predetonate easily) and I got sick of having to rejet every time I bought fuel out of a different batch of pump premium. With the good fuel it carburetes well, doesn't predetonate (and consequently overheat) and is consistent. Perfect for a lazy bastard like myself. I set it slightly fat to keep it conservative as it's a playbike, and I don't need the last 1Hp.
Well, when I tore it down last night I couldn't believe my eyes. Everything had a very slick feel, but there was practically no carbon build-up on anything. I've never seen the inside of an engine, 4 or 2 stroke, look so clean after more than a year's use, including my 929. (Hell I've seen rebuilt motors that didn't look this nice) The RC valve (power valve) was blackened, but had absolutely no fouling or build-up. All a very pleasant surprise since my plugs usually come out brown to very dark brown on the insulator. The cylinder wall still had the final hone marks from honda, and a very light mark from the center of the rear skirt as the only indicator it had been used. It was visible with a maglight, but I couldn't feel it with my fingernail.
Honda's new bikes are famous for leaking dirt around the boot to airbox seal. People sell all kinds of kits to fix it. I pulled mine apart when new and applied some tacky gasket maker to the stock foam gasket. It certainly worked good enough. People also say the stock air filter is bad. I used it with No-Toil the whole time. It worked good too. And it's plenty dusty out here in Kali to test it....
Anyways, big fan of Mobil MX2T, No Toil, and race fuel! YMMV 
Last edited by luvtolean : 01-20-2004 at 5:09 PM.
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01-20-2004, 5:57 PM
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Join Date: 12-21-2001 Location: NorCal
Bike(s): 1000RR Posts: 925
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down |
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01-20-2004, 5:58 PM
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Join Date: 08-01-2001 Location: Lost
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Nope, promised myself I wouldn't do that. But it won't be a CR 250 when I'm done.  Compromise you see...
Last edited by luvtolean : 01-20-2004 at 6:03 PM.
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01-20-2004, 6:10 PM
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#4 | | Resigned to pursue other interests.
Join Date: 05-01-2001 Location: Raleigh, NC
Bike(s): 2007 Honda ST1300 Age: 36 Posts: 12,313
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Bah. Get a 4 stroke. So much less work.  |
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01-20-2004, 6:16 PM
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Not when you gotta start it (a CR450)...especially when it's hot and you fall off.  |
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01-20-2004, 6:29 PM
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Join Date: 12-21-2001 Location: NorCal
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Quote: |
Originally Posted by luvtolean Not when you gotta start it (a CR450)...especially when it's hot and you fall off.  | Started first or second kick----try again---the blue light is ON!!!!!!  |
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01-20-2004, 6:58 PM
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Join Date: 08-01-2001 Location: Lost
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Yeah yeah,  |
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01-20-2004, 7:20 PM
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#8 | | Team Visa Racing
Join Date: 05-29-2001 Location: Campbell, CA
Bike(s): 04 GL1800A,00 929RR,87 CR500R,81 CB900F,71 CB836K1 Age: 45 Posts: 3,796
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Quote: |
Originally Posted by luvtolean Nope, promised myself I wouldn't do that. But it won't be a CR 250 when I'm done.  Compromise you see... | You could buy my CR500 and blow right by boomers 4stoker.
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01-20-2004, 7:22 PM
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down We'll see, my "little CR250" might do it...
A dude up there had a Service Honda Cr500 AF with an Ohlins shock, that sure was a nice looking machine. 
Last edited by luvtolean : 01-20-2004 at 7:23 PM.
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01-20-2004, 7:23 PM
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#10 | | Team Visa Racing
Join Date: 05-29-2001 Location: Campbell, CA
Bike(s): 04 GL1800A,00 929RR,87 CR500R,81 CB900F,71 CB836K1 Age: 45 Posts: 3,796
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Quote: |
Originally Posted by luvtolean We'll see, my "little CR250" might do it...
A dude up there had a Service Honda Cr500 AF with an Ohlins shock, that sure was a nice looking machine.  | OH MAN!...Talk about a wet dream. 
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01-21-2004, 8:30 AM
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Join Date: 05-16-2003 Location: IL
Bike(s): 06 busa, 01 CR250R, 72 Husqvarna 450, 87TRX250R Age: 38 Posts: 847
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Quote: |
Originally Posted by nedro OH MAN!...Talk about a wet dream.  | CR500AF: I race a guy on one of those vibrating monsters regularly in the vet class. He occasionally beats me to the first corner - after that I leave him like his chain came off.
The only thing an open class two stroke is good for is blasting across the dessert or an open cornfield. |
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01-22-2004, 5:58 PM
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Join Date: 05-10-2003 Location: Simpsonville, SC
Bike(s): 06 Triumph Sprint ST, Husky SM610,& Gas Gas EC 300 Age: 59 Posts: 869
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| Re: CR 250 Tear Down Quote: |
Originally Posted by luvtolean Well, I decided my bike was kinda "ratty feeling" after riding Boomer's new CRF this past weekend. I decided since I'll be traveling the next few weeks it was time to tear it down and do some work. It's never had a new top end, so I started with that. I pulled the jug last night.
I have run race fuel with Mobil MX2T since about the third tank of fuel in this bike. This motor is fairly sensitive to jetting (and can be made to predetonate easily) and I got sick of having to rejet every time I bought fuel out of a different batch of pump premium. With the good fuel it carburetes well, doesn't predetonate (and consequently overheat) and is consistent. Perfect for a lazy bastard like myself. I set it slightly fat to keep it conservative as it's a playbike, and I don't need the last 1Hp.
Well, when I tore it down last night I couldn't believe my eyes. Everything had a very slick feel, but there was practically no carbon build-up on anything. I've never seen the inside of an engine, 4 or 2 stroke, look so clean after more than a year's use, including my 929. (Hell I've seen rebuilt motors that didn't look this nice) The RC valve (power valve) was blackened, but had absolutely no fouling or build-up. All a very pleasant surprise since my plugs usually come out brown to very dark brown on the insulator. The cylinder wall still had the final hone marks from honda, and a very light mark from the center of the rear skirt as the only indicator it had been used. It was visible with a maglight, but I couldn't feel it with my fingernail.
Honda's new bikes are famous for leaking dirt around the boot to airbox seal. People sell all kinds of kits to fix it. I pulled mine apart when new and applied some tacky gasket maker to the stock foam gasket. It certainly worked good enough. People also say the stock air filter is bad. I used it with No-Toil the whole time. It worked good too. And it's plenty dusty out here in Kali to test it....
Anyways, big fan of Mobil MX2T, No Toil, and race fuel! YMMV  | Good Oil, Proabably your maintenances helped a lot. IMO nothing is more important than air filter maintenance. |
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