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08-08-2004, 4:34 PM
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| Brake Lines I am going to be doing front and rear. Any tips before I do it?  |
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08-08-2004, 4:44 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Braided Steel! http://www.kyleusa.com/catalog/braid...0_products.htm
When you blead um, don't panick. It takes forever. |
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08-08-2004, 4:48 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Drain all the fluid, pull the bleeder nipples, dab some wheel bearing grease on the threads, reinsert. That will keep you from pulling air when you're trying to bleed the lines. My own home-brew remedy and it works like a champ.
Then do what everyone else will tell ya to do relative to the steps involved. Or search.  |
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08-08-2004, 6:07 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Cover everything up with old towels in case some fluid spills, as it always does! |
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08-10-2004, 9:58 AM
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| Re: Brake Lines Thanks! I remember hearing that brake fluid will take paint off pretty fast!  That's my major fear....well other than air bubbles. |
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08-10-2004, 10:12 AM
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#6 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by showmethebombs Thanks! I remember hearing that brake fluid will take paint off pretty fast!  That's my major fear....well other than air bubbles. | Easily is an understatement. Basically if it hits the paint its already to late. As is why I have a Master cylinder that has silver spots (at least its only there thanks to rags everywhere)
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08-10-2004, 11:03 AM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by TGZ13 Easily is an understatement. Basically if it hits the paint its already to late. As is why I have a Master cylinder that has silver spots (at least its only there thanks to rags everywhere) |
thank goodness my Master is plastic!  |
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08-10-2004, 8:24 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines |
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08-10-2004, 8:32 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by showmethebombs | Hmm, they do look good, but I'd be very wary about putting my life in the hands of some unknown mechanic/assembly drone. Bottom line, I wouldn't buy those, sorry. Like the Michelin ad says, "Because there's so much riding on your [brake lines]."
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08-10-2004, 8:37 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines After you drain all the fluid, slip a sandwich bag over the banjo fitting and tie wrap it in place. This will prevent any residual fluid from leaking out when you pull the lines off the bike. Keeps everthing nice and clean.  |
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08-10-2004, 10:14 PM
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#11 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: Brake Lines check out hard racing. I know my buddy got them from there for a crazy price
edit: Hard Racing SS lines
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08-10-2004, 10:32 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by TGZ13 check out hard racing. I know my buddy got them from there for a crazy price
edit: Hard Racing SS lines | Yeah, I'd say that paying $20 extra for a proven product vs. mystery meat from Taiwan is the better choice. |
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08-10-2004, 10:34 PM
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#13 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by 2OHOH2 Yeah, I'd say that paying $20 extra for a proven product vs. mystery meat from Taiwan is the better choice. | No sense of adventure
When it comes to certain things the extra $20 won't kill you (no pun intended) |
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08-10-2004, 11:47 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by showmethebombs I am going to be doing front and rear. Any tips before I do it?  | I'm on board with that towels thing as well. Though don't use white towels cause you can't see if it drops anywhere and thus it soaks through. But brake fluid IS good if you want to make your paintjob look like some militia camo. deal
Mityvac / one man brake bleeder kit- got one?
I just did my truck and KLR lines this method and it rocked and was quite fast. I just make sure the reservoir is full and mityvac the fluid down the lines for speed (eyeball the MC the whole time as it will empty quick w/new lines). Once lines are topped off, compress the lever, build pressure and bleed as you regularly would till most of the bubbles go away, mityvac a good 1/2 cup or more of fluid out of the lines until the bubbles go away.
i also left my lever safetywired as tight to the bar as you can get it for a few hours with the bike on stands.
Not sure where a banjo bleeder would fit into all of this though, I suspect you would bleed to that point first and last?  |
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08-11-2004, 4:36 AM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by Chain Drain all the fluid, pull the bleeder nipples, dab some wheel bearing grease on the threads, reinsert. That will keep you from pulling air when you're trying to bleed the lines. My own home-brew remedy and it works like a champ.
Then do what everyone else will tell ya to do relative to the steps involved. Or search.  |
Petrol based grease and contact with the internals of your brake system are a big
I found Girling or Lockheed Rubber grease is okish. Not just everyday stuff though...mostly used in rebuilding brake calipers. |
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08-11-2004, 4:57 AM
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| Re: Brake Lines If you dont have the lines yet, get Galfer Superbike lines. They are designed to eliminate the joint on the caliper end and look trick as ****!
Chris
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08-11-2004, 7:31 AM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by Tombstone Petrol based grease and contact with the internals of your brake system are a big  | You only use a tiny amount, enough to "seal" the threads as you would a dab of pipe dope on a plumbing fitting. No big deal, works well and I've had the grand total of zero problems with this remedy on the last two bikes I've done lines on.
FWIW |
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08-11-2004, 11:02 AM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by NinerPilot If you dont have the lines yet, get Galfer Superbike lines. They are designed to eliminate the joint on the caliper end and look trick as ****!
Chris | Like these? they do look sweet! http://www.calsportbike.com/cgi-bin/...id=567&count=1 |
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08-11-2004, 2:35 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by showmethebombs | Yep, that'd be them  |
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08-11-2004, 2:41 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines probably that is what I will buy. Now I am freaked out about it...is it easy to mess these up? I have never done a set before. |
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08-11-2004, 2:50 PM
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#21 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by showmethebombs probably that is what I will buy. Now I am freaked out about it...is it easy to mess these up? I have never done a set before. | I hadn't till I did my buddies f4i but it is real easy.
Rags everywhere
Drain all fluid
Carefully loosen ends (we used string to make sure we re-routed them the same way)
A little grease on the bleeder valve (per chain)
Reconnect
Fill
Bleed
Ride  |
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08-11-2004, 2:50 PM
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#22 | | Mr. Brownstone
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| Re: Brake Lines It's nearly impossible to mess them up. They really only go on one way.
Only thing to remember is the shorter line goes to the right caliper, the longer one to the left. On the master cylinder end, put the line to the right caliper on first, then the line to the left. Also, only put one crush washer between the two lines at the master cylinder.
I've never removed all the fluid before changing lines. It's a bit messier, but it is easier to then bleed the fluid when you're done. |
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08-11-2004, 2:50 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by showmethebombs probably that is what I will buy. Now I am freaked out about it...is it easy to mess these up? I have never done a set before. | What, to mess up lines? Nah, not really. There's plenty of info in this thread to get you through it. Little more than patience and a supply of brake fluid are needed to get this done. |
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08-11-2004, 5:12 PM
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by showmethebombs I am going to be doing front and rear. Any tips before I do it?  | Mmmm, skip the rear?  |
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08-11-2004, 5:56 PM
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#25 | | Back From the Ashes!!
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| Re: Brake Lines Quote: |
Originally Posted by fl-929 Mmmm, skip the rear?  | Rear isn't need at all but it looks better with the SS line IMO |
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08-12-2004, 7:35 AM
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| Re: Brake Lines Give Slava @ www.flatoutmotorcycles.com a shot if you are buying superbike lines.
I just got a set of superbike lines from him for $90 shipped
Rike
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