Tires

TGZ13 · 09-20-2004, 2:17 PM

Ok I looked around and I saw a few people run pilot powers or something along those lines, M1's.... but dont remember seeing anything about the diablos on the RC.

The bike is being picked up tomorrow with about 4k already on the stock tires I know its only a matter of time till I need new ones so I am looking from now.

I know alot of people love the diablos but are they good on the rc?

Also I found them fr and rear for $237 to my door.

deez · 09-20-2004, 2:20 PM

Got Diablos on there right now, no complaints. Seat of the pants feel I like the M1's better, I believe they offer more grip than the Diablos (like 5-10%, somewhere in there) but decreased mileage from the rear, the Diablos do wear better. I'd try the Diablos first and see how you like the grip, maybe try a set of both and see what works best for you. I got the Diablos on the free front deal and I do like them, but if I can find M1's for the same price, I'll deal with the decreased mileage on the rear, the RC loves the damn things.

TGZ13 · 09-20-2004, 2:23 PM

Coolbeans. Currently I ride on bridgestones so anything has to be better(although mine have done pretty well under most conditions)

How much less do you get out of the M1's. I dont mind having to change rears sooner as long as the thing is sticky.

deez · 09-20-2004, 2:42 PM

I only ride the RC in the twisties, rarely does it commuted on or anything else. I'm definitely on the throttle alot with that bike, especially corner exits to give you some background. Rear M1 wears out around 1600-1700 miles. I almost get 3 fronts to one rear.

TGZ13 · 09-20-2004, 2:47 PM

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Originally Posted by booth23

I only ride the RC in the twisties, rarely does it commuted on or anything else. I'm definitely on the throttle alot with that bike, especially corner exits to give you some background. Rear M1 wears out around 1600-1700 miles. I almost get 3 fronts to one rear.

Holy **** dude 1600 miles. Thats 1 tire a month almost for me

BigDawg · 09-20-2004, 2:49 PM

Run Diablo Corsas. Makes up for all the grip of the M1 and then some and offers a better profile I feel. Wear is subject. Life will depend on setup and how much you like to put the hammer down. I feel they offer about the same mileage as an M1 while offering slighly more grip.

Great tires.

TGZ13 · 09-20-2004, 2:53 PM

I do a decent amount of riding and some of it unfortunately is on the highway to and from riding spots. Hmmmmmm I just have a feeling I am gonna eat up tires b/c I have a heavy throttle hand and love the way hard acceleration feels (more so then top speed)

deez · 09-20-2004, 2:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TGZ13

I do a decent amount of riding and some of it unfortunately is on the highway to and from riding spots. Hmmmmmm I just have a feeling I am gonna eat up tires b/c I have a heavy throttle hand and love the way hard acceleration feels (more so then top speed)

Start with the Diablos, they offer a good mix of wear and grip comparatively.

TGZ13 · 09-20-2004, 2:57 PM

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Originally Posted by booth23

Start with the Diablos, they offer a good mix of wear and grip comparatively.

Yeah i think thats where I am gonna start. Gonna search around and see if I can get anything better then the $237, then get them mounted up over the winter. Should be able to finish off the season on the dunlops that are on there.

ccwilli3 · 09-20-2004, 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by booth23

Start with the Diablos, they offer a good mix of wear and grip comparatively.

Yes, listen now and believe him and me later!

Haywood · 09-21-2004, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TGZ13

Hmmmmmm I just have a feeling I am gonna eat up tires

That is a fact of life on rediculously(sp?) fun big-bore twins. I get half (if that) of the mileage on my RC than I do on my VTR and run the same tires (M1's). The RC just puts it to the ground soo much better than the VTR does.

I thought about switching over to Pilots, but find it cost-prohibitive. I'll probably get 400-600 more miles out of Pilots than the M1. And for a $40 difference (Pilots being ~$170 to the M1 ~$130) I'm still gonna be putting rear tires on every other month. Plus I really like the M1's feedback/grip/warmup. Nothin better for the buck, IMO. Fuggetaboutit. Heck, I had a new one mounted three weeks ago, it's got a week of commuter duty and two weekends and is already half gone.

I'm still waiting for my wife to figure out the rear tire costs....

TGZ13 · 09-21-2004, 7:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Haywood

That is a fact of life on rediculously(sp?) fun big-bore twins. I get half (if that) of the mileage on my RC than I do on my VTR and run the same tires (M1's). The RC just puts it to the ground soo much better than the VTR does.

I thought about switching over to Pilots, but find it cost-prohibitive. I'll probably get 400-600 more miles out of Pilots than the M1. And for a $40 difference (Pilots being ~$170 to the M1 ~$130) I'm still gonna be putting rear tires on every other month. Plus I really like the M1's feedback/grip/warmup. Nothin better for the buck, IMO. Fuggetaboutit. Heck, I had a new one mounted three weeks ago, it's got a week of commuter duty and two weekends and is already half gone.

I'm still waiting for my wife to figure out the rear tire costs....

Like I said I know its gonna be hard on tires but just want something that in between the twisties wont get to beaten up by the boring straight line runs that have to be done

Might have to learn how to mount my own tires

I know there was a thread here somewhere I am gonna go look for it

theBlobsp1 · 11-23-2004, 11:00 AM

im not a big fan of diablos myself. ive been running pilot powers until recently when i switched to the dunlop 208's. im happy either way. being in japan there is no end to the mountain roads on offer, and the lack of police on either the large highways or the the mountain roads have led me to the stickier tyres.

i guess my only complaint about the pilots was the time it takes them to warm up. and that isnt really a complaint.

l'timbré · 11-23-2004, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by booth23

I only ride the RC in the twisties, rarely does it commuted on or anything else. I'm definitely on the throttle alot with that bike, especially corner exits to give you some background. Rear M1 wears out around 1600-1700 miles. I almost get 3 fronts to one rear.

3front to one rear.... hard on the brakes

abtech · 11-23-2004, 8:58 PM

Interesting, as I go through 2 fronts for each rear . . . (meaning I wear out 2 fronts for each rear tire that I wear out)

TGZ13 · 11-24-2004, 7:40 AM

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Originally Posted by abtech

Interesting, as I go through 2 fronts for each rear . . . (meaning I wear out 2 fronts for each rear tire that I wear out)

So between the tires you roast and the gas you burn how the hell do you afford to keep going

TGZ13 · 11-24-2004, 7:42 AM

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Originally Posted by theBlobsp1

im not a big fan of diablos myself. ive been running pilot powers until recently when i switched to the dunlop 208's. im happy either way. being in japan there is no end to the mountain roads on offer, and the lack of police on either the large highways or the the mountain roads have led me to the stickier tyres.

i guess my only complaint about the pilots was the time it takes them to warm up. and that isnt really a complaint.

Very interesting comments on both the Diablos and the Powers both of which I was looking at.

I have to admit the bike came with the stock D207's and besides the warmup time the tires have been pretty good minus some slippage on hard downshifts but that was alot of user error for trying to engine break the twin like I did the Seca II

soon2b954 · 11-24-2004, 8:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TGZ13

Very interesting comments on both the Diablos and the Powers both of which I was looking at.

I have to admit the bike came with the stock D207's and besides the warmup time the tires have been pretty good minus some slippage on hard downshifts but that was alot of user error for trying to engine break the twin like I did the Seca II

Very happy with my M1's, just not how quickly they wear!!

TGZ13 · 11-24-2004, 8:25 AM

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Originally Posted by soon2b954

Very happy with my M1's, just not how quickly they wear!!

That was and still is my 3rd choice... I have to do some more reading.

Not like I am riding anytime in the next 6+ months

CBR929RE · 11-24-2004, 11:49 AM

I'm still throwing in my vote for the Powers.

TGZ13 · 11-25-2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

I'm still throwing in my vote for the Powers.

How many miles did you put on the powers since you put them on. Last I knew it wasnt to many yet.

I need details damnit

CBR929RE · 11-25-2004, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TGZ13

How many miles did you put on the powers since you put them on. Last I knew it wasnt to many yet.

I need details damnit

I wanna say 500 or 600, I only think I remember the mileage when I put them on but I'm not positive if the number I remember is right not. I'll check my B tripmeter and see what it says, if its around 500 or 600 then thats probably right. But I do love the tires. in the miles since putting them on I have been so much more confident and have leaned further than ever before. I am far from an expert on tires because my first bike had bias plys and with the 929 the pilot sports I thought were good until I put the Powers on and finally had something to compare. And after having both, the Sports have nothing on the Powers. If I still had my old bike my riding ability would be no where near where it is today. I got so much better in the first few weeks on that bike than the whole summer last year on the old bike. I kind of have that same feeling with the new tires just to a somewhat lesser extent.

TGZ13 · 11-25-2004, 10:26 PM

My problem with tires is the only bike I can comare to was the Seca II which had BT45's (weird sport/touring tire with very little power going to them anyway)

The tires on now are the stock 207 Dunlops which other then the warm up time have been a decent tire.

I like what I have read about the powers so far so they continue to stay in the top 3 to replace the tires on there now.

I need a good grip, easily leanable (not that its a real word but it seemed appropriate

) decent mileage all around type tire for next season

CBR929RE · 11-25-2004, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TGZ13

My problem with tires is the only bike I can comare to was the Seca II which had BT45's (weird sport/touring tire with very little power going to them anyway)

The tires on now are the stock 207 Dunlops which other then the warm up time have been a decent tire.

I like what I have read about the powers so far so they continue to stay in the top 3 to replace the tires on there now.

I need a good grip, easily leanable (not that its a real word but it seemed appropriate

) decent mileage all around type tire for next season

well I can't speak for the mileage but the Powers grip good and turn in very nicely. I wasn't looking for mileage anyway, grip was my number 1 priority

TGZ13 · 11-25-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

well I can't speak for the mileage but the Powers grip good and turn in very nicely. I wasn't looking for mileage anyway, grip was my number 1 priority

I hear that. I mean dont get me wrong sticky rubber is #1 just wouldnt mind something that could last a little bit too since once and a while I like to take my bike on the 85 mile round trip to work on the super slab