Honda RC51: Discussion of the Honda RC51, Honda SP1, and Honda SP2 Motorcycles.
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04-03-2005, 1:30 AM
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| Flapper Valve What does that intake flapper valve do? Is it to keep the intake velocity up at low rpm's or is it to keep intake noises down?
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04-03-2005, 1:53 AM
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| Re: Flapper Valve |
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04-03-2005, 2:23 PM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Quote: |
Originally Posted by JAMI6989 |
exactly...... it's an EPA device to stop intake noise. it does more "bad" than good. all i did was put a BB in the vacuum line to stop it from closing. it's open in it's relaxed (no vacuum) position. |
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04-03-2005, 4:09 PM
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| Re: Flapper Valve So...none of you guys think it's to speed up the air velocity at low RPMs? Or are you simply believing what was said on the link above?
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04-03-2005, 4:49 PM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Quote: |
Originally Posted by nedro So...none of you guys think it's to speed up the air velocity at low RPMs? Or are you simply believing what was said on the link above? | I don't know enough about how it works to know exactly why but I did it and it does seem to help  |
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04-03-2005, 5:49 PM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Quote: |
Originally Posted by nedro So...none of you guys think it's to speed up the air velocity at low RPMs? Or are you simply believing what was said on the link above? | It is WFO at low RPM and only closes as the airbox/snorkel combination approach their resonant frequency and then reopens above 7K. For this reason, it wouldn't appear to be restricting airflow at lower rpms for engine tuning, just to dampen the characteristic "honk" the intake system makes between 5500 & 7000 rpm. |
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04-03-2005, 7:53 PM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Wow, thanks for the good information.
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04-03-2005, 10:07 PM
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#8 | | Compromise
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| Re: Flapper Valve Between 3.5K and 6K RPM the RC resonates at a frequency that will attract cats or aliens (depending on SP1 or SP2) and the flapper cures this. 
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04-03-2005, 11:16 PM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Quote: |
Originally Posted by sheepofblue Between 3.5K and 6K RPM the RC resonates at a frequency that will attract cats or aliens (depending on SP1 or SP2) and the flapper cures this.  | so by doing the flapper mod, you're stopping the possible attack of cats and/or aliens?
this is gonna be good for my lap times................ 
Last edited by Rigor : 04-03-2005 at 11:17 PM.
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04-04-2005, 8:21 AM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Quote: |
Originally Posted by Rigor so by doing the flapper mod, you're stopping the possible attack of cats and/or aliens?
this is gonna be good for my lap times................  |
Wrong. It's the potential for cat and alien attacks that lowers lap times. |
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04-04-2005, 9:00 AM
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#11 | | Compromise
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| Re: Flapper Valve Quote: |
Originally Posted by Rigor so by doing the flapper mod, you're stopping the possible attack of cats and/or aliens?
this is gonna be good for my lap times................  | Only aliens as you have an SP2. The cats you need a different solution.
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04-04-2005, 9:31 AM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Yep, no aliens OR cats around mine (00 with 02 updates) . . . |
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04-08-2005, 11:24 PM
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| Re: Flapper Valve Quote: |
Originally Posted by nedro So...none of you guys think it's to speed up the air velocity at low RPMs? Or are you simply believing what was said on the link above? | Ab was right i feel, to speed the velocity you would want it shut down from idle ....... and gradually open up. It runs a diaphram meaning its open ... or closed somewhat with a tiny difference of vac . The fact it also is closed at a certain time .... says its not a velocity thing . |
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