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Old 10-12-2006, 2:39 AM
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Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

How do I know if my clutch needs replacing. '00 51 31k slipper? if it's multi plate am I going to need to replace all or just a few? No ideas and/or opinions from my end that I fully trust.

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Old 10-12-2006, 9:28 AM
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Re: Read too much to decifer

If your clutch is slipping on accelleration or gear changes then it is time to replace.
And yes, you replace all the fiber plates at the same time.
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Re: Read too much to decifer

That would be steels and fiberous disks...some places will tell you either or is the drive plates. But if you get an aftermarket kit it will include everything.

If your doing it yourself be sure to soak everything in a bath of oil for a day or so before you install. Just to get any air out of the plate material and give the disks a good saturation. Not manditory, but unless you're going to get them and put them right in...why not.
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Old 10-12-2006, 11:38 AM
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

You could pull it and measure all against tolerances in the manual. However I would always replace all of them. Also if it is a slipper clutch the clutch plates may be fine and the spider spring that does the slipper action may need replacement for the slipper functionality to be there (the clutch is still operational with a worn spider spring)
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

I recommend doing the entire job once. If you replace the fibers or just the steels, you'll be doing the whole thing over before too long.

If it were my bike, I would change all the plates and the springs at the same time.
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

Ok, I'll replace plates and springs at 1 time. How am I to know if it has slipper or not or does it matter either way.
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

OK let me help save you some money.

WHY do you think it needs a clutch? Based on your statements I am not sure you do. Also if you need to ask you almost for sure do not have a slipper (expensive aftermarket option that would have been told to you probably)
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send a PM to SilverBullet about getting a new clutch kit. I bought my plates and springs from him. took a little while to get but I knew that he had to order them himself. Now Honda makes clutch kits with all the plates and springs in on convient package.
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

If you hit the gas and the motor climbs, but not the front wheel, yes change all of the clutch plates.
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

The reason I am asking is that, when I pull off from a signal light it sometimes jumps early in the release of the clutch lever. No, I am not too new at riding and also have a bit of experiance on the RC, about 4k miles from may till now.
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

Do you have air in the lines? change the clutch fluid? change the fluid and bleed the line. what color is the clutch fluid right now?
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

Not very clear. Like watered down bourbon.

Also, how many miles can I expect on the 1st clutch?

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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

Doesn't sound like a clutch to me. If you have the clutch pulled in and rev it does it want to walk a bit?
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

clutch pulled in and no movement. hasn't done it in a while so I'll wait to check it later. But it is under waranty so I could haave them check it for free i guess.
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

The RC has a known issue when the engine is cold and you start to release the clutch. Mine will lunge the first few times I use it when I first start the bike. Once everything warms up, the problem disappears.

Maybe this is what you are experiencing?
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

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The reason I am asking is that, when I pull off from a signal light it sometimes jumps early in the release of the clutch lever. No, I am not too new at riding and also have a bit of experiance on the RC, about 4k miles from may till now.

mine would do that too but the 929 has a cable clutch. only did it after I replaced the clutch. readjusted the clutch after it broke in and its been fine since. I'd bet its either air in the line as has been said or what abtech said.
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Old 10-25-2006, 1:36 AM
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Re: Replacing Clutch - Read too much to decifer

The cold engine idea sounds about right. It only does it on the way to somewhere, not on the return. Also, now that I think it over, it has been cooler mornings lately. Should I let the engine get even warmer or will that have no effect. I let the engine temp climb to 150+ before I roll it out of the driveway.

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