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Honda 929RR Fireblade

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My name is Adriaan, I am 31 years old and live in the West rand.
I am new to the forum. Hope we can be of help to each other.

I'm not really sure how to go about this but I really need some assistance.

I own a 2002 Honda 929RR Fireblade with 21500km on the clock.

My blade sounds like it misfires between 3000 - 4000 rpm and doesn't want to accelerate when in that rpm range. As soon as you get past that it goes fine but doesn't run smooth, it sounds like it splatters all the way through. I have now taken my Blade to the Honda dealer twice over the last 3 months of which it has spend most of its time there.
They have tested everything they could and can't seem to really find the problem so they assume its the Fuel Pump, as the diagnostic test doesn't show any faults.
The price for a new pump is R10k and that's just to much to give away for an assumption.

If anybody could please help me find a fuel pump that's still in a working condition I would surely appreciate it.

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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

Hi, did they say the Fuel Pump or did they say the Fuel Pressure Regulator
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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

They did put in a new FPR. So the say it must then be the Fuel Pump
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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

Sad to hear about your intermittent problem.

First order of business is to identify which year & model machine you have. Honda released 929s in 2000 and 2001 models years... 954s in 2002 and 2003 model years. The model or displacement (in your case) is far more important than the year, as the model differences in years are almost exclusively aesthetic.

On to the fuelpump. There are Honda dealerships all over the world that may still carry or have available this part (2002 954 complete assembly part #: 16700-MCJ-752, pump alone: 16730-MCJ-000, 2001 929 complete assembly part #: 16700-MCJ-010, pump alone: 16730-MCJ-000) Searching the aforementioned part numbers using an online search engine (such as Google) to locate a seller may be your best option. I would not recommend purchasing a USED part here, because it may be worse than what you already have.

Best of luck.

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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

Do you know what sparkplugs you're using?

What is the condition of your sparkplug wires?

Have you checked your vacuum lines?

At the age your machine is at now, many different things begin failing and breaking down. I have a pair of similar aged machines, and they have not had their shortness of challenges these past few years.

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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

Wow , worked that out 10k rand works out at £600, seems a bit steep, are they going for the whole thing or just the pump part. Seen one on E-bay
HONDA CBR900RR CBR929RR 2000 2001 00 01 FUEL PUMP CBR 929 (#2) | eBay
and kit only
HONDA CBR900RR CBR900 RR 2000 2001 2002 2003 IN TANK 12V FUEL PUMP + FITTING KIT | eBay
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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

The spark plugs are new and purchased according to Manual.
The wires and vacuum lines were the first things we checked.

But with this type of mileage it shouldn't be this bad, I could be mistaken. If they could just say for sure its the pump. but they assume and assumptions is expensive way to find faults.
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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

I've always wanted to order parts on eBay but I never know how trusted these sites are. you take a chance and end up losing the cash.
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I've always wanted to order parts on eBay but I never know how trusted these sites are. you take a chance and end up losing the cash.
Hi , I have been dealing with E-bay for 9 years now and so far no problems, as long as you go through E-bay and Paypal, take a look at E-bay and see for your self, there is a certain amount of buyer protection. Bill
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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

I just bought it on eBay. I used the second link you suggested. I really hope this item will get here.
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I just bought it on eBay. I used the second link you suggested. I really hope this item will get here.
Hi Adriaan, yes the second link was only the Fuel Pump and fitting kit, are you going to install yourself.Bill
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Hi Adriaan, yes the second link was only the Fuel Pump and fitting kit, are you going to install yourself.Bill
Yes I will be doing this myself. I have taken it apart a couple of time looking for the problem.
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Yes I will be doing this myself. I have taken it apart a couple of time looking for the problem.
Good on yer, there are plenty of good guy's on here to help, and you came to the right placeBill
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Good on yer, there are plenty of good guy's on here to help, and you came to the right placeBill
Thanks a lot for your help. As soon as I have received the part I will let you know. I'm holding thumbs
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Re: Honda 929RR Fireblade

First off... and most importantly...mebbe... to the .org!

As pointed out already if your machine is a 929 it would be either a 2000 or 2001. The 2002 and 2003 models were both the last of the engineering greatness Baba San (Tadao Baba... The Bladefather) working at Honda R&D (Retired officially 2004). Those models were the CBR 954 RR.. and if yours is a 2002 this should be it. Enough history lesson though =)

On to the problem- if you are trying to accelerate hard below 5k revs this would be your first issue =) But it still should not sputter/misfire. My first thought was also the FPR, but with a known good one installed.... I guess that would be ruled out. I would think fuel pump if you have ever had any kind of muckiness in your tank it is good for clogging up pumps and injectors. Fuel quality is always important =) Trust me, over here in 'Merica we have terrible petrol =(

I would (if you have the know how) pull the fuel rail since you probably already have everything disconnected and start with some compressed air (low pressure). There is a pretty basic rig you can make to with some wiring and a 9v battery as well to open the injectors. This makes cleaning them simple/easy to do with compressed air and cleaning solution. A fuel pump should not go down at only 21,000kms. BUT- it depends on how the bike has been treated, if stored was it prepared right, and a host of other potential causes. Point being, if the pump managed to get fragged with so few miles I would definitely also be looking into cleaning out the rest of the fuel system =)

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