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Old 06-26-2005, 12:21 AM
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Hello everyone. First off I would like to say this is a great site and I've gotten a lot of info off of it in a very short time. I'm picking my first bike up on Monday, a 1000RR, finally fulfilling a 20 year long lust for a sport bike. I guess my wife figured I finally grew up enough to ride intelligently and gave me the thumbs up. I have done very little riding and that was a LONG time ago. I am very respectful of the potential of my bike but on the advice of a couple of co-workers who ride I ended up getting the 1000 instead of the 600RR I initially was going to get. They both thought that the 600s lack of torque compared to the 1000 and with a minimal weight difference and basically no physical size difference I would be happier on the 1000. Good advice or bad?
I am going to take a MSF class but will probably be asking a lot of questions here, any tips/techniques anyone would like to throw my way will be greatly appreciated. This is like a dream come true for me, and I don't want to do anything stupid to spoil it. I want to have fun on my bike, be safe, and learn how to be a good rider, not just a competant one. I hope to continue to get good info from you guys and share my experiences. Sorry for the long post, and thanks in advance.
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Old 06-26-2005, 12:27 AM
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First of all, welcome ASennaFan.

Personally, I like your friends' advice. The liter bike's torque is nothing less than astonishing over a 600, and you would probably have moved up soon anyway had you first purchased the smaller displacement bike. That said, respect the sh!t out of it, and ride safe!! It CAN be a handful...
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I am going to take a MSF class but will probably be asking a lot of questions here, any tips/techniques anyone would like to throw my way will be greatly appreciated. This is like a dream come true for me, and I don't want to do anything stupid to spoil it. I want to have fun on my bike, be safe, and learn how to be a good rider, not just a competant one.
All this and a knowledgeable F1 fan as well- Welcome!

And when you take the bike out with your more experienced friends, ride your own ride.. don't worry about keeping up with them this year or next.
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Be ready for if you have not rode in a while this will be a quantum jump in every way. And yes be careful it goes from zero to stupid in a flash.
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Throttle management is everything on a 1000. Just twist a little too quick, especially on cold tires or slippery surfaces, while making a simple turn and it will dump you on your rear before you know what's happening.

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Welcome. Please be careful...that's a very big machine for an inexperienced rider. Your co-workers were right on the torque part, but the little RR's are plenty fast enough.
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:47 AM
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You came to the right place! and most importantly, be careful on that thing! As a friend of mine likes to say, "make sure your throttle hand doesn't write a check that your ass can't cash!"
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I don't really agree with your friends. I think a 1000 is too much bike for a beginner. I hope you're not one of the ones who crashes their first bike due to too much power. Tell your friends to go look at the 600s again, the new ones are incredibly fast. The 05 GSXR600 keeps up with my 929 on the street with no problem, the highway is a different story but its not a race so it doesn't matter.

Keep that sweet looking bike looking sweet and most importantly keep yourself in the same condition when you get off the bike as when you got on.
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Old 06-26-2005, 10:11 PM
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I don't really agree with your friends. I think a 1000 is too much bike for a beginner. I hope you're not one of the ones who crashes their first bike due to too much power. Tell your friends to go look at the 600s again, the new ones are incredibly fast.
Although I agree with you somewhat, this rider sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. And can't you get into trouble almost as fast on a current 600? The added torque is a real plus, and if respected, shouldn't be a problem.

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BTW ASennaFan, be sure to let us know of your first ride impressions. I have a feeling you will be QUITE pleased!

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Old 06-27-2005, 1:03 AM
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Sportbikes don't kill people, stupid people on sportbikes kill people. Ride safe and take your time getting used to the bike.

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..and from over here! Learn well, ride safely and wear appropriate gear .
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Welcome to the .org.

In the end it is your choice on which bike you buy, but for now, I'm gonna stand on my soap box. Please take no offense by any of this. I just don't want to see you go out there and hurt your self because a friend said it was a better choice.

I am going to agree with CBR929RE on this one. You say it will be your FIRST bike and are going to get a 1000. While I'm sure you are cautious and have given this much thought, you should consider a second look at a 600. The performance of the current 600's is way better then most believe. In my opinion, which may or may not mean anything, the only difference is that a 1000 can get to it's top speed faster and has more torque. I owned 4 600 class bikes before I made the switch to a liter class. I am very grateful I did it that way and truely "learned" to ride before I jumped on the 954. Looking back now, if I had gotten a liter class I would have probably hurt myself. Sure it will only go as fast as you make it go, but a liter class bike can bite you in the arse if not given the proper amount of "respect". Hell even the current 600's aren't the best beginner bikes. Each year they get faster, lighter, and have more hp. When I started riding in 98, even that F3 I had was too much for me, but I just had to have one. Good luck with your choice. May you make the right one for you. After all it's your life you will be putting on the line every time you ride. Ok off the for now.

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Have fun on that bike, but stay within your limits, don't get cocky, and be careful who's advice you take. (in terms of riding technique)

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to the .org be careful a liter bike is alot of power for a beginner. I learned on a 1981 Suzuki GS550 that was all I could handle and it was no where near what the current 600's are at. My advice is to buy something used, learn on it (if you drop it doesn't hurt so bad) and sell it with little or no loss. New bikes take too big of a hit to learn on and then sell. Now I am not saying you can't handle a liter bike, but I know I couldn't have, on my first bike. FWIW
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Good luck with your new bike but I have to tell you; your co-workers gave you some really bad advice. I 1000 for a beginner can be deadly. Same of the mistakes I made on my first 600CC bike would have resulted in crashes on a 1000. It's also a known fact that people starting on a 1000 will develop their riding skills at much slower rate than most that start with less powerfull machines.

Good luck and go easy on the gas
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Although I agree with you somewhat, this rider sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders. And can't you get into trouble almost as fast on a current 600? The added torque is a real plus, and if respected, shouldn't be a problem.

BTW, how are your current mailbox accommodations?

BTW ASennaFan, be sure to let us know of your first ride impressions. I have a feeling you will be QUITE pleased!
you can get into trouble on any sportbike (especially the new class). I just want the guy to be careful. I mean no disrespect when I say that if you say you're gonna be respectful of the bikes power that doesn't mean you can't get yourself into trouble. Just keep the rubber on the pavement and stay safe. thats all I ask.

the mailbox is getting a little hot with the sun beating down on it so I escape alot. That bigheaded TGZ can't chase me now anyway. You could escape yours now too with Daddy Bighead gone.
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