ZX 10 transformation

Hammer · 06-11-2006, 12:58 PM

Will start today.

Details to follow

Hammer · 06-11-2006, 3:48 PM

Working on a zx10 and got the bodywork from Godfather (Bad Mistake) Scott will not answer calls so we have no where else to ask so here is the problem. The tail section has no undertail that came with the bodywork and GF does not offer one, and the stock tail is no where near to fitting the aftermarket junk. For those of you that have done bodywork, how did you make an undertail section work.

Here is the aftermarket bodywork on the bike by itself.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...4/Dscn1488.jpg

Here it is in relation to the stock tail.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...4/Dscn1489.jpg

phobiaphobe · 06-11-2006, 3:51 PM

Do a streetfighter.

Hammer · 06-11-2006, 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Do a streetfighter.

Done

ND4SPD · 06-11-2006, 5:12 PM

Why do you want an undertail? Mine's all open, I even ripped the stock undertail out. Only thing back there is my exhaust and battery tray.

jetbdude · 06-11-2006, 5:15 PM

How come you're doing the work on Kawboy's bike? He's too dumb to do it himself..... tell is slow ass that race plastics wont make him any faster, and put some weight in that tail section so that the back wheel stays on the ground.

Hammer · 06-11-2006, 5:16 PM

It needs something to bolt to, the only other bolts that it has is in the rear of the seat (2 bolts) one on each side. If we do not have an undertail or some other support it will flop in the wind.

Hammer · 06-11-2006, 5:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jetbdude

How come you're doing the work on Kawboy's bike? He's too dumb to do it himself..... tell is slow ass that race plastics wont make him any faster, and put some weight in that tail section so that the back wheel stays on the ground.

He said

ND4SPD · 06-11-2006, 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

It needs something to bolt to, the only other bolts that it has is in the rear of the seat (2 bolts) one on each side. If we do not have an undertail or some other support it will flop in the wind.

That's all that's holding mine on...it's fine. If it seems really loose, drill a couple pilot holes and put a couple zip ties on each side.

jetbdude · 06-11-2006, 6:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

He said

Again.... you're doing all the work for him

Hammer · 06-11-2006, 7:34 PM

He is helping......

Keep me straight.

Hammer · 06-11-2006, 7:36 PM

We ended up sliding the race fairing tail over the stock one so it is more ridgid.

Have I mentioned Godfather race fairings are a POS.

ND4SPD · 06-11-2006, 11:46 PM

You do realize you're gonna scratch the heck out of the stock tail and if he crashes, he's gonna have two wrecked tail cowls instead of one?

What's wrong with the bodywork? Just curious. Is it out of the batch that was still made in Mexico or is this the new stuff out of FL?

jetbdude · 06-11-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

You do realize you're gonna scratch the heck out of the stock tail and if he crashes, he's gonna have two wrecked tail cowls instead of one?

Hammer · 06-12-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

You do realize you're gonna scratch the heck out of the stock tail and if he crashes, he's gonna have two wrecked tail cowls instead of one?

What's wrong with the bodywork? Just curious. Is it out of the batch that was still made in Mexico or is this the new stuff out of FL?

The stock tail was damaged already, his son dropped it in the garage after Grattan last year. He has a new tail section for it so no biggie.

The Godfather bodywork is the "New" stuff. He & I understand it is cheap bodywork ($450) so we were expecting some blemishes but this **** makes Hotbodies look like Sharkskins in comparison. The upper and lower has bubbles inbetween the gelcoat and the glass so you have to tap all the edges to see where these spots are and fix them before paint is applied. It is brittle like potato chips. The upper by the windscreen is cracked and you can definately see where he tried to repair it and did a shitty job at that. Down by the controls on the upper it is cracked in both spots to the point that the little lip is broken all the way, that will have to be reinforced to be usable and hold up. The upper and lower where they match, or supposed to is a joke to put it lightly. Tha tail was the best part and it needed alot of work but had no way of supporting itself other than 2 bolts way up underneath the seat so the tail was free to flop around up and down about 2 inches each way, that is why we had to incorporate the stock tail into the equasion. Kayboy called Scott with Godfather and told him about the upper and he did send another one but it was for a 600 and not a 10. Kawbot has tried to call him back since last wednesday and has not gotten a responce yet, we even tried today from 3 different phone #'s and all we got was voice mail and no call back. His customer service sucks and Scott should have his ass whipped for screwing people like this. I will write up a review of this ordeal and post it on every BB I can find that anybody would possibly be looking for plastics.

It will turn out good in the long run but will just take alot of time to undo his screwups.

ND4SPD · 06-12-2006, 12:37 AM

Wow...that sucks man. The new stuff is supposed to be all better and improved. For what I paid, I'm pretty happy with mine. It crashed well. I don't think it would make it through another, but I'm ok with that 'cuz I don't plan on crashing for a while.

kawboy69 · 06-12-2006, 12:43 AM

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Wow...that sucks man. The new stuff is supposed to be all better and improved. For what I paid, I'm pretty happy with mine. It crashed well. I don't think it would make it through another, but I'm ok with that 'cuz I don't plan on crashing for a while.

Well I just bought it 3 weeks ago so it should be the stuff made in Fl. but scott will not return my calls so as far as I concerned he is a rip off and needs to work on his business skill and how to stand behind his products...

ND4SPD · 06-12-2006, 12:48 AM

Through the ordeal I had with him, he was pretty responsive. Sometimes it took him a little while, but most times he responded in a polite and professional manner and within 24 hours. Try email too, if for no other reason than to say that you've tried every angle to get in contact with him. He just recently started up the production in FL so I'm sure he's swamped. Plus, today is Sunday, he probably isn't taking business calls.

kawboy69 · 06-12-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jetbdude

Just taking your advise and weighting it down ... Get use to the new look you will be seeing alot of it in a couple of weeks.

kawboy69 · 06-12-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

Through the ordeal I had with him, he was pretty responsive. Sometimes it took him a little while, but most times he responded in a polite and professional manner and within 24 hours. Try email too, if for no other reason than to say that you've tried every angle to get in contact with him. He just recently started up the production in FL so I'm sure he's swamped. Plus, today is Sunday, he probably isn't taking business calls.

He responded great at first I contacted him and sent photos he answered every call he shipped me a new upper at no charge I got the new upper in and it was for a 04 ZX-6 I called to let him know he sent the wrong piece and he has never responded

but I paid full price no sale or discount and I didn't ask I belive in you get what you pay for so here we are...

Lesson learned..

No more Godfather !!!!! Spend the money a go with shark skins..

Hammer · 06-12-2006, 1:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kawboy69

Just taking your advise and weighting it down ... Get use to the new look you will be seeing alot of it in a couple of weeks.

I had to

evl_twn · 06-12-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kawboy69

Just taking your advise and weighting it down ... Get use to the new look you will be seeing alot of it in a couple of weeks.

Just before we pass?

Purpdust · 06-12-2006, 1:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

I had to

That would go better with a TLR but that works as well

kawboy69 · 06-12-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by evl_twn

Just before we pass?

I'll give you that 1 that was a good 1..

ND4SPD · 06-12-2006, 11:39 PM

Is kawboyjr coming to Grattan?

sheepofblue · 06-12-2006, 11:46 PM

How would it work if you got a sheet of lexan from Lowes?

Hammer · 06-13-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepofblue

How would it work if you got a sheet of lexan from Lowes?

I take it you are talking about the undertail?

If so the GF tail comes down alot lower than the subframe which would require some fabricating which is not a big deal but believe it or not the GF tail slipped over the tail looks pretty good.

I worked about 4 hrs on the bike today. Got the tail ready for paint and the front fender primered and started trying to reinforce the upper by fiberglassing the weak points that were already cracked. I put about 4 layers on there so it should not go anywhere.

kawboy69 · 06-13-2006, 7:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ND4SPD

Is kawboyjr coming to Grattan?

No not this time he just started a new job. he wanted to go bad

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Maybe next year

Hammer · 06-20-2006, 1:12 AM

Started painting saturday, has a minor glitch with my hanger (garage door opener bracket) and my assistant (kawboy69) and dropped the tail with wet paint. Had to sand it out and put on a second coat this evening. Looks good concidering I have not painted since high school. Just a couple of big stickers needed. J/K
Have to paint the # background and numbers and put the bodywork back on the bike.
Will post pics later, wireless internet is down so dial up is too slow for pics.

Hammer · 06-20-2006, 11:49 PM

It's alive

Finished the big part tonight, just a few more bolts for the plates where the mirrors used to go and a few more wind screen fasteners. Went together pretty good with few difficulties. Better pics later, high speed is still down. Camera phone pic so don't bitch about the quality of the pic.