[Hammer]

Those of you at grattan may have heard, Kawboy was going through T2 and lost power very rapidly. He first thought it was the tire giving way and the CW radio'ed in to tell him that he thought the motor was locking up. He took it down in the lower paddock and run it a few timed and no noises and back in the pits no noise that indicated anything wrong with the engine. That was the last session of the day and we did not ride on the third day so he got the bike back home and went down the street and run it through the gears and around 10 - 11k RPM it soundd like **** and rattling while loosing power.

The 04's have an oil gallery problem where the gallery does not provide enough oil to the bearings which burns everything up in there. I just got it apart this afternoon and it was the generator. That is kind of a good thing being that it is not the motor but the generator is quite expensive (just under a grand).

We are trying to find the parts now and will go back with parts from an 05 model that had a bigger gallery drilled to bandaid the problem. The 06's have a standard alternator and alleviated the issue altogether.

[phobiaphobe]

Best thing to do would be to lift up that chip of paint on the tank cover and slide a Honda under it.

[kawboy69]

Originally Posted by phobiaphobe

Best thing to do would be to lift up that chip of paint on the tank cover and slide a Honda under it.

[SomeStrangeGuy]

so you mean the oil galley in the mainshaft was insufficiently sized?

The 2004 PN is 13234-0021 , and I notice the 05 gets a 13234-0023, and some of the other gears also change part numbers as well...but the mainshaft is only 130$ and some change. Is this the part that you are changing? or do you mean the galleys in the coupler itself do not permit enough oil to the mainshaft?


The stator itself is the same, as are most of the seals - so I am assuming the shaft o.d. is the same, so I'd think just getting a new center pole/mainshaft would work for the issue - although I question what the other parts were changed for as well...

Either way, holy expensive batman! What kinda oil did you run in that and what mileage did it have on it?

[SomeStrangeGuy]

Oh yeah..

05
http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/400_05.../generator.bmp

04
http://www.ronayers.com/fiche/400_05.../generator.bmp

You'll have to do their fiche thing for the detailed pn#'s.

[Hammer]

Basicly the heat fubared everything: shaft, stator, bushings and casings. So that is where the whole thing comes in, I cannot get the cover (that has the heat marks on it) to come off of the shaft from the stator being fubared.

[luvtolean]

That sucks. What a piece of **** design. Some engineer needs to be banned from Sake for a year.

[QuikMike]

so I guess that means I should pass on the '05 model as well?

[Baketech]

Dayuum....


While the POS is down, pull that front MC banjo bolt out so as he can take it to Indy and get a banjo bleeder...

[CanyonCarver]

Had this happen to my '04 when it was less than a year old. It was fixed under warranty. There are a number of parts that have been updated and not all are obvious by the part numbers.

I had problems with Kawasaki getting the proper parts and info to the dealership that fixed it. But finally (after 3 months) was able to get some help from a Kawasaki corporate guy that frequents the Bikeland.org website ZX-10R forum after pitching a major fit on the boards.

He goes by the screenname of "extremelean", and was very helpful in getting my situation resolved. If you PM him, he will likely be able to supply you with a proper list of parts that need to be replaced in order to fix it so that it doesn't happen again.

If you want any more details, PM me. Unfortunately, I have a lot of experience with this. But the good news is, since the rebuild the bike hasn't had any more problems.

And for QuikMike: I've never heard of an '05 having this problem. Seems it was resolved for '05 with the updated parts. And as others have mentioned, the '06 has a completely new design. Generator spinning at twice crankshaft speed. Duh.

[kawboy69]

[quote=Baketech]Dayuum....


While the POS is down,

you too!!!

[Baketech]

LOL...didn't even think you would catch that...

[Red Rider]

From the looks of the first pic...you worried about someone trying to take sumpin'?

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by QuikMike

so I guess that means I should pass on the '05 model as well?

I believe the 05 model is ok as they updated the parts to fix the problem, but if the 06 is in your budget......why not.

While the POS is down, pull that front MC banjo bolt out so as he can take it to Indy and get a banjo bleeder...

He is supposed to be over this afternoon, so he can see the carnage for himself. May convince him to take the bolt., but then again I do need an advantage. Last year was the pinch bolt,,,,,what next......

I had problems with Kawasaki getting the proper parts and info to the dealership that fixed it. But finally (after 3 months) was able to get some help from a Kawasaki corporate guy that frequents the Bikeland.org website ZX-10R forum after pitching a major fit on the boards.

He goes by the screenname of "extremelean", and was very helpful in getting my situation resolved. If you PM him, he will likely be able to supply you with a proper list of parts that need to be replaced in order to fix it so that it doesn't happen again.

I will check it out

From the looks of the first pic...you worried about someone trying to take sumpin'?

That is just for stray cats and black birds that get in the yard. It is just a 177cal pellet rifle.

[CBR929RE]

how come Kawboy doesn't post his own problems (or is this your way of giving him the bad news?)

if it wasn't for the pics I'd probably think you were the same person.

[sheepofblue]

Originally Posted by CBR929RE

how come Kawboy doesn't post his own problems (or is this your way of giving him the bad news?)

if it wasn't for the pics I'd probably think you were the same person.

in some ways yes but in most no way. Also be careful I think they could hold you down and give you a cut like Hammer real easy next year

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by CBR929RE

how come Kawboy doesn't post his own problems (or is this your way of giving him the bad news?)

if it wasn't for the pics I'd probably think you were the same person.

His mechanical level and patients is streatching on an oil change. He is a pretty good size boy and he gets pissed when things don't exectly go the way he wants them to, so the bike is at a serious disadvantage at this point and I would hate to see the bike destroyed with a 20 lb sledge hammer.

I enjoy doing mechanic work at as long as someone else is paying the bills.

[CBR929RE]

Originally Posted by sheepofblue

in some ways yes but in most no way. Also be careful I think they could hold you down and give you a cut like Hammer real easy next year

as I said, I've seen the pics of him, I know what he does to turtles. I'm not gonna mess with him.

Originally Posted by Hammer

His mechanical level and patients is streatching on an oil change. He is a pretty good size boy and he gets pissed when things don't exectly go the way he wants them to, so the bike is at a serious disadvantage at this point and I would hate to see the bike destroyed with a 20 lb sledge hammer.

I enjoy doing mechanic work at as long as someone else is paying the bills.

I shoulda brought him over yesterday when I was putting new brake lines on. Took like 1.5 hours to get the damn things to start bleeding (and that was after spending probably an hour cleaning the calipers cause there was a ton of dust caked on). Had to take the speed bleeders out and use the regular stock one to get them started.

[Hammer]

He is gonna **** when he sees this $$$$$

Why in the hell would some dumb ass put a generator there and charge soo much for it?

Total $1058.63 from Ron Ayers

The local stealership wantes $1700.00

Kawi customer service is ****, ended up telling the asshole on the phone I was glad I rode a Suzuki so I did not have to put up with this ****.

[Red Rider]

Dayumm... Should've bought a Honda.

[kawboy69]

Originally Posted by Red Rider

Dayumm... Should've bought a Honda.

If they made 1 go that fast i would have

[ND4SPD]

I know someone with a cheap trackbike for sale No better time to upgrade like the present.

[kawboy69]

Originally Posted by Hammer

He is gonna **** when he sees this $$$$$

Why in the hell would some dumb ass put a generator there and charge soo much for it?

Total $1058.63 from Ron Ayers

The local stealership wantes $1700.00

Kawi customer service is ****, ended up telling the asshole on the phone I was glad I rode a Suzuki so I did not have to put up with this ****.

Holy ****.. You sure pay for going fast..May be looking at another make.... I like the 1000RR but better wait till i get a damn job!!!!

[Hammer]

Talked to Cliff a little bit ago, he wanted to know if you wanted to sell the 10 ?

BTW he is in Phoenix right now.

[kawboy69]

Well I ordered the parts today $ 1070.00 but never the less theyare ordered . kawasaki really screwed me on this 1 I,m so pissed I thinking about selling the 10 in the off season and buying a new HoHaHonda or R6.any thoughts..

[jetbdude]

The Repsol is for sale

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by jetbdude

The Repsol is for sale

That is too much bike for him

[luvtolean]

Eleven hundred bones. Damn.

[sheepofblue]

Get the new V5RR


now the secret is out.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by luvtolean

Eleven hundred bones. Damn.

I bet the alternator/generator for the MV does not cost that.