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Old 09-04-2004, 10:14 PM   #1
 
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Motorcycle Title problems

Ok a little bit of a long story.

I bought a SV650 2 years ago. It was listed on ebay as a rebuildable title bike. It was in a wreck. The bike was here in Orlando so I looked at it and rode it before I bought it was $2000. The seller gave me a photocopy of the title and a bill of sale. The title copy was a Georgia title tilted to an Insurance company that totaled the bike out after the wreck. I wasn't too concerned since the guy had good feedback and I wasn't going to street ride the bike anyway. Well now 2 years later I want to sell the bike. It completely fixed up and streetable. The guy who sold it to me is gone, can't find him. The company he worked for is still in town and I have repeatedely asked them to get me a title. The always reply with some BS about trying to get it from Georgia and that they are working on it. Besides getting a lawyer and getting nasty with this. Is there any way to get a title for this bike? I know it was going to be a pain in the ass even when I got the title being that I would have to get a inspection and show receipts for the rebuild. I thought about maybe getting a frame with a clean title and just moving the numbers. Sounds like a criminal thing to do but this isn't a stolen bike just running out of options. I want to get rid of the thing but I'm not gonna throw away a $3000+ bike. Are bikes worth anything without titles? Any ideas let me know. In my opinion just owning the bike for 2 years should give me some rights to it . I called DMV they were no help.
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

If the DMV can't help, you're going to be selling a $2000-2500 track bike. I strongly recommend that you do not screw around with a so called "clean" frame a unless you can do so legally, through the DMV. And in that case, you'll have spent more than you would recover.

Or, you could part it out...
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

If the title was titled to an insurance company can't you contact them? I know here in Ohio you can get a new title if you have a bill of sale and then go through a few inspections..etc. If you don't feel like messing with it then your best bet is parting it out and you just can't sell the frame.

I'm also kind of confused as to why you only got a photocopy of a title instead of the real thing?
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

In Georgia you can apply for a lost title as long as you have a bill of sale. I don't know what your status may be in that regard since it has been two years and ownership was never transferred. It may be as simple as paying a penalty for being late with your paperwork. I know that Georgia would probably want two years of back taxes as well as a fine (damn Ad Valorem tax).

Edit: The statement about back taxes was made in reference as to what would be levied on me, being a Georgia resident. If you do have to go through Ga. to title the bike, I doubt the tax would apply to you.
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So part it out or sell it as a no title bike??
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

If I were you, I would go down to the tag office, bill of sale in hand, and talk to a supervisor. If your DMVS is anything like Ga's, every time you talk to someone on the phone you get a different answer.

If you are not willing to pursue a title I don't think you have any choice but to part the bike out. Trying to sell a bike without a title or MSO raises too many questions (or suspicions) IMHO.
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

sell it as a whole bike but listed as a parts bike and that there is no title or sell it as a track only bike. Anyone here looking for an Sv650 track bike?
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

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If I were you, I would go down to the tag office, bill of sale in hand, and talk to a supervisor. If your DMVS is anything like Ga's, every time you talk to someone on the phone you get a different answer.

If you are not willing to pursue a title I don't think you have any choice but to part the bike out. Trying to sell a bike without a title or MSO raises too many questions (or suspicions) IMHO.

Its worth a shot but I did talk to a few people on the phone and they all told me I was out of luck.
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

There are title services companies from Alabama and I think Arizona? You sell them the bike on paper and they register it in one of these "lax on paperwork states" Then the title co sells it back to you with title.

I have dealt with alot of old scooters that owners lost titles for. You write down the serial numbers and walk into a law agency and run em to see if they are on record. If no record but it and take it to CHP get the serial numbers verified. Fill out forms to get a title and registration. If it is on record you need to get the owner of title to sign a release of interest. Take that form to DMV and fill out papers.

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I sold my track SV as a no title bill-of sale bike...
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

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I sold my track SV as a no title bill-of sale bike...
How much did u get for it? THe only thing is that it has street fairings on it because I was going to make it for street use untill I found out I was going to havetitle problems.
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

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There are title services companies from Alabama and I think Arizona? You sell them the bike on paper and they register it in one of these "lax on paperwork states" Then the title co sells it back to you with title.

I have dealt with alot of old scooters that owners lost titles for. You write down the serial numbers and walk into a law agency and run em to see if they are on record. If no record but it and take it to CHP get the serial numbers verified. Fill out forms to get a title and registration. If it is on record you need to get the owner of title to sign a release of interest. Take that form to DMV and fill out papers.

Dont break the law whatever you do. Its not worth it.
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Can you refer me to these title companies. The only ones I saw were for bikes under 250cc. Can they do everything over phoneand mail? Because I'm not going to arizona for this.
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A little over 3k... but it had full suspension work done and was track ready.
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

Bought mine for 2K with a salvage title, stock, including dents in te tank and scrapes on the frame and tail. It's a ton of fun.
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Re: Motorcycle Title problems

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Bought mine for 2K with a salvage title, stock, including dents in te tank and scrapes on the frame and tail. It's a ton of fun.

So i figure about 2k then . I could prob get 3k+ if I had a title. I wonder how much I could make parting it out?
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