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Re: Kwak 6RR and VTEC VFR Reviews

I got to ride both recently. The new Kwak this last Saturday and the evil VTEC about a month ago.

6RR

I was really shocked after riding this thing. Powerband is supersmooth and linear, corner exits were very nice once you enter it with 8k or more on the tach. Stock suspension was excellent, as was the slipper clutch. He had an Akra full Ti system with PC and dynojet map. The result was a very linear powerband. The bike is very light by the seat of the pants. Riding position is a perch, as in you feel perched on top of it, but the riding position is very upright for a streetbike. I got comfortable very quick on it, even at 6'2'. There was enough legroom and the reach to the bars was great, very different from a gixxer 600. The stock levers were rotated up high, they needed to be rotated down. The bike definitely needs a damper as the front end is nervous a la 929/954, but that results in quick side to side changes. The seat sucks, as most stock units do. This was the first time I've ridden a bike that was more nut cramming than a Honda. A new seat would be first on my list for that thing. The gear light was cool, he had it set at 14.5k, I didn't jack with the OEM lap timer, no need. The electronic tach was cool too, easy to read but I'm used to it, as the 51 has one too. The dash is very compact but it works well.

I came away thinking that a 600 is all you really need on the street, it's slower and I think that is a good thing, you have to work harder in the corners. I haven't ridden a new 600 in a while. I had ridden a F4i when they first came out, but I only rode it at parking lot speed. Kwak has stepped up their quality as well, finally. The upper triple clamp on this thing was very nice. Overall it was a very nice bike, very little complaints, you have to rev the thing, like any 600 but the power is there up top, and it carburets perfectly, better than any Honda I've ridden.

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The most impressive thing about this bike was the FI, best on any Honda I've ridden so far, very silky smooth with no PC and stock cannisters.. Suspension is improved over the '98 model but the engine isn't any faster, but it is smoother. Like any VFR, riding it after coming off a literbike, you feel like you are on a couch. For someone downgrading from a literbike, you'd want a set of pipes and a good map, and you could deal. It's a typical VFR, good at many things, but a master of none. That is my major gripe with a do-it-all bike, it can do anything but really doesn't do anything particularly great. That can be good for some bad for others seeking purchase. Other than that let me think...
The 7k hit from the VTEC has been overly stated, overly. It wasn't that big of deal at all, didn't effect me in the corners and I was revving the snot out of it. Riding position was typical VFR, great. The bike felt large but that is because I haven't owned one for almost 3 years. I think with revalved front and Ohlins in the back, + set of pipes, I could live with it. Comparing it to the '98, the engine is smoother, and the suspension marginally better. But I would rather have the gear driven '98 and upgrade the suspension and pipe. Oh yeah, the stock screen on the VTEC worked great, no need to upgrade. Levers were tilted up too high for my liking, tranny was excellent, and the linked brakes still suck ass IMHO.

22 days until it begins...
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Re: Kwak 6RR and VTEC VFR Reviews

I hope to see Kawasaki come through on their Zx-10 next year as they have with their 600s this year. Good for them for getting back into race - you can never have too many good, competing bikes.

With 600s getting lighter and lighter, I'd be curious to see how much heavier my 929 would feel compared to a newer F4i, 600RR, Zx-6, etc.

The VFR doesn't do anything for me and it never has.
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Re: Kwak 6RR and VTEC VFR Reviews

Nice little review Booth!!

It's great thing to be able to ride different bikes, compare and give insight to others.




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Re: Kwak 6RR and VTEC VFR Reviews

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ER : With 600s getting lighter and lighter, I'd be curious to see how much heavier my 929 would feel compared to a newer F4i, 600RR, Zx-6, etc.
I can speak for the 600RR....it's 9lbs lighter dry, but it feels an easy 30lbs lighter overall. I can easily push it around on my gravel driveway, and even back up while being in the saddle on feet that only touch down about 1/2 way. The weight centralization really really helped!
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Re: Kwak 6RR and VTEC VFR Reviews

Booth,
thanks for the 411, but now I go away jealous that I don't get to ride other bikes other then the 929 that I own.

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Re: Kwak 6RR and VTEC VFR Reviews

Having ridden an '02 VFR, I agree with you Booth - the thing feels like a couch - especially after a 929. the one I was riding had some nice pipes on it, and they gave out a great sound, something like a high revving small block chev, it got a lot of stares from people not knowing what the hell was being blipped when at the lights. Didn't care for the power below 7k much, it felt too lumpy below 4k an dI think the other 2 valves actually working at those RPM's would help it, bu tother than that, it was a fun ride. though I'd never pick it over a 929/954 - except, maybe, for the sound...

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