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Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US?
05-18-2004, 7:43 AM
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| Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? I heard about this conspiracy theory last night it it DID make me wonder a little.
This link info copied is very, very, very biased, please don't take some of the statements too seriously. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist (yea right  ) , but some of these questions do make you wonder. The alleged Berg execution is a hoax. To explain this stance we take a closer look at the events happened around that time.
The U.S. like always needs to divert attentions when they get negative attention, during Monica Lewinski scandal the U.S. decided to bomb a Afghanistan and Sudan for no reason and without any prove that they where behind any anti-U.S attacks. When the U.S. stocks dropped the U.S. went to war with Iraq and in the past there are numerous examples of same thing happening over and over again.
This time with the rape and abuse pictures and video's from Iraqi prisons and streets the criminals in the Whitehouse again needed to divert the negative attention they where receiving from around the world.
We will put some strange things down to support the stance regarding authenticity of the video.
- Nick Berg was wearing an orange jumpsuit – just like US prisoners wear.
- Berg was last seen alive on 10 April, when his father Michael Berg believes he was killed - two weeks before the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal broke in the world's media. (Tape claimed the execution was retaliation for Iraqi prisoner abuse).
- The body is completely motionless even as the knife is brought to bear – not so much as an instinctive wriggle.
- It is natural that when the throat artery is cut, it would cause a significant amount of blood. But little emerges and when the head was raised – not a drop of blood is seen to fall.
- Additionally, some have pointed out that his last email on 6 April to his family stated he wished to return home as soon as possible – yet the FBI claim he refused an offer of help to get home. (In the wider press, FBI involvement has also generated much discussion as to why Berg was really arrested and detained for two weeks in Mosul.)
- A US newspaper claims an official familiar with the case knew that FBI agents had interrogated Berg, but had left him for two weeks because he was in Iraqi - not American - custody.
- The Jordanian accused of the beheading Berg is himself believed to have been killed in March, according to two Islamic groups.
An eight-page leaflet circulated this week in Falluja, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was killed in the Sulaimaniya Mountains of northern Iraq during a US bombing.
But even if it was the Jordanian, his face is so well-known that "why would he bother to cover it?"
Now you perhaps still think that the U.S. would never execute one of its own. Then you should ask yourself the question why the U.S. invaded Iraq knowing it had no WMD like it is proven now to the whole world. This led to the death of more then 700 invaders of U.S. nationality alone.
The U.S. needed to boost its support to continue this unjust war for its evil agenda. It should be no surprise if later in the future when these Zionist controlled regimes (republicans and democrats) of the U.S. have fallen and are replaced with independent and free government it comes to light that the Pentagon has secretly awarded Nick Berg a medal for "his" sacrifice for the sake of the evil agenda of the current U.S. regimes. |
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05-18-2004, 7:47 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? Sounds to me like someone's bored  (not you SD, but the douchebag that came up with all this) |
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05-18-2004, 7:51 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? I haven't seen the video, nor will I. This web site is very biased and attempts to divert what happened back on the US. I'm not saying it was a hoax, just that, like always, there's a conspiracy theorist behind every story. |
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05-18-2004, 8:03 AM
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05-18-2004, 9:08 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? Anyone see the video of Bud Dwyer's suicide? He put a 44 (I think) in his mouth and pulled the trigger. I was AMAZED at the amount of blood that came out. And came out FAST. I would think beheading would create just as much of a rush of blood.
I could see this video being a fake... I only saw a low quality version of it, but I didn't see any blood dripping from the suspended head either.  |
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05-18-2004, 9:16 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? Be interesting to see what a medical doctor would say about it.
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05-18-2004, 9:22 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? Umm....didn't they find his headless body that day....
BTW...how about citing a source when you quote?
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05-18-2004, 9:31 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? We had a rider die on one of our rides. He slid through a barbed-wire fence and it caught him around the neck. The wire had severed both jugular veins and carrotid (sp?) arteries. There was a noticeable spurting of blood for several minutes after he went down, before his heart finally stopped beating.
I'm not a vascular surgeon and I haven't seen the video, but I would think that there would indeed be a ton of blood that would come out unless his heart stopped beating before they finished decapitating him. Even if it did stop beating, how much blood would run out from his head?
Despite all this, I'd be hard-pressed to take these allegations seriously if they're written on a propaganda-laced site.  |
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05-18-2004, 9:45 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? Quote: |
Originally Posted by Baketech Umm....didn't they find his headless body that day....
BTW...how about citing a source when you quote? | The conspiracy theory lies in that Berg was already dead when beheaded.
I don't want to give that site any pubicity, and I'll try to find other (less biased) sites. Although if you want, do a google and you'll find that site (It was the first one I found and probably shouldn't have used that specific one). The point is that questions arose, from some, of it's authenticity. |
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05-18-2004, 10:01 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? Well I'd say it's valid then....the reason they were wearing hoods was because it was Bushy, Rummy, Cheney, Rovey & Blair.... 
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05-18-2004, 11:20 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? I've been waiting for this thread. |
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05-18-2004, 11:50 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? Quote: |
Originally Posted by ConqSoft I could see this video being a fake... I only saw a low quality version of it, but I didn't see any blood dripping from the suspended head either.  |
ya know, thats whats bothered me about this whole thing... with the technology out there this was the best video these guys could produce showing there handy work... if i were them it would have looked clear as day to eggagerate the point.... |
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05-18-2004, 11:52 AM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? BTW im sure all who wanted to see the video have by now but just incase it can be found hosted ON THIS SITE
that is all  |
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05-18-2004, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stopsign BTW im sure all who wanted to see the video have by now but just incase it can be found hosted ON THIS SITE
that is all  | Thanks but no thanks. |
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05-18-2004, 8:00 PM
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| Re: Berg (beheaded) Video a Hoax by US? I just now watched it for the first time. That doesn't look even close to being real - give me a break  |
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